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Worse than the world ever imagined: True scale of the Holocaust revealed
Daily Mail ^ | 2nd March 2013 | Anthony Bond

Posted on 03/02/2013 1:23:23 PM PST by the scotsman

'It is one of the worst moments in history, which still horrifies to this day.

During Hitler's brutal reign of Nazi Germany, more than six million Jews were killed.

But now new research has discovered that the Holocaust may well be even worse than previously thought. Researchers at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum have been documenting all of the Nazi concentration camps, ghettos, slave labour sites and killing factories which had been set up across Europe.

When they first started the project, the team expected to find about 7,000 camps and ghettos. Shockingly, they discovered 42,500 camps across large swathes of German-controlled Europe. The researchers predict that up to 20 million people died or were imprisoned in the sites.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Germany; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: holocaust
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To: Taggart_D

Stop. The Catholic Shurch did not work with Hitler.

What are you doing now to assist in stopping abortion?

I knew Holocaust survivors and I helped them in my capacity. Saw tattoos hand scraped onto people’s arms. Listened to their stories at night when they couldn
t sleep.

BTW Catholic priests and nuns numbered many in the Holocaust. Read Edith Stein’s story as well as Maximillian Kolbe’s.

The study of the Holocaust takes the place plus another six months of slavery study takes the place of an entire year of english study in the 8th grade at my local middle school.

Knowing history of literature is not considered important, when it is everything, in reality. People behave badly throughtout history. Hitler was one of the worst. Stalin gets no attention.

all of this disproportionate attention is given in great part to avoid looking inward.

The United States is currently up to 55 million reported murder of innocents through abortion.

I suggest that if one is not on record as having fought hard against that, they will look pretty bad in the history reports.

The Catholic Church stands frimly against it and IT will still look bad in comparison.

Furture generations will be not disgusted but truly horrified if we are allowed to survive this.


41 posted on 03/02/2013 3:29:03 PM PST by stanne
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To: GeronL

I always thought 6 million was too few—always thought 7 to 8 million was more accurate. Yes, lots of folks were murdered by the Nazi’s just as lots of folks were killed by Mao and Stalin. The whole of the tragedy needs to be seen —not just the role of Jews.


42 posted on 03/02/2013 3:32:31 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: the scotsman

bump


43 posted on 03/02/2013 3:42:13 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: hunosehu

It’s a tactic BO uses effectively. Finger pointing.

Selfish societies earn evil leaders. The society in the US points the finger so readily that many who wouldn’t normally do so don’t even know they’re doing it.


44 posted on 03/02/2013 3:43:53 PM PST by stanne
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To: All

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN0vkSO9n8Y


45 posted on 03/02/2013 3:45:25 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("I can see unhinged liberal media madness from my house!")
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To: ArrogantBustard
somewhere along the line, the 5.5 million gentiles got shoved down the memory hole.

This was happening by the 1980s.

46 posted on 03/02/2013 3:48:12 PM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: stanne

Weelllll technically....the pope signed a treaty early on with Hilter (review link below)

http://www.dw.de/saving-the-last-nazi-church/a-1975382

Many Nazi-era buildings have been preserved and are still in use today. Berlin’s Olympic Stadium, for example, was designed by Hitler’s favorite architect, Albert Speer in 1936, and the Nazi’s central bank is now used by the foreign ministry. But the church presents a trickier problem because it clearly shows that churches collaborated with the Nazis more than is commonly acknowledged.

Initially, the Catholic Church cooperated with Hitler after Pope Pius XI signed a treaty with him in 1933. But that collapsed in 1937 when Hitler began putting Catholic clergy on trial after the pontiff issued a statement of concern because of years of Nazi interference.

Meanwhile, Hitler appointed Ludwig Müller as the Reich’s Bishop to lead a movement of Protestant National Socialists called the “German Christians,” also known as the “Storm troopers of Jesus.” Soon after, Hitler tried to force Protestant churches to join the Reich’s Protestant Church, which promoted an “Aryan Jesus” and wanted to replace the bible with “Mein Kampf.”

Neither the Protestant or the Catholic Church officially opposed the Nazi policies towards Jews.

As parishioners were increasingly turning towards National Socialism, some church officials gave in so that they could keep their churches intact and help others such as members of the Confessional Church, organized by dissident Protestant clergy.

“They preached inner resistance and said that was better than being jailed,” said Klein. “Some people were even braver.”

People such as Pastor Max Kurzreiter of the Martin Luther Memorial Church who helped people being persecuted by the Nazis. He married the writer Jochen Klepper and his Jewish wife Johanna in the church in 1938 — something that was illegal at the time. Klepper, his wife and daughter killed themselves in 1942 rather than face deportation.


47 posted on 03/02/2013 3:51:07 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: griswold3

Mark for later


48 posted on 03/02/2013 3:56:10 PM PST by sport
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To: the scotsman
A lot of “progressives” want a holocaust-of adults-in America on the grounds that earth needs to be “protected” from “climate deniers” or because earth is “over-populated” or because those who don't buy into trans-humanism are an obstacle to the supposed utopia that trans-humanist paganism hopes will come about. All ideas seem to emanate from a personified evil, and point towards violence in our future.
49 posted on 03/02/2013 3:56:34 PM PST by Missouri gal
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To: Taggart_D

Go ahead drag the Church into this.

Sigh.

A swastika in most churches, you say?

Look. At the March for Life DC rally, numbers rise annually (Jan)

It is mostly young adults. THe average age is 22 and the numers are in the 500,000 range.

These people are the ones and their children who are going to have to clean up this mess the baby boomers are causing.

They are going to be plenty pissed. They are certainly not giving up.

Tehy are not cynical and they know all about Hitler and many aree Catholic.

Finger pointing is not what they are about.

Are you helping them?

They are going to owe a ton of money to the Chinese.

THEY are.

How are we helping them?


50 posted on 03/02/2013 3:58:54 PM PST by stanne
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To: Gene Eric

Amen!


51 posted on 03/02/2013 3:59:30 PM PST by sport
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To: ArrogantBustard

The thing to remember is that it actually was the Austrians who were the worst of the Nazis, even moreso than the Germans. And yet Austria seems to get a pass. Even before the Anschluss, the German Nazis had to tell the Austrian Nazis to tone it down a bit.


52 posted on 03/02/2013 4:00:32 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: randita

I will always remember the Holocaust scenes from “War and Remembrance.”

Pretty graphic, considering it was a Made-for-TV series.


53 posted on 03/02/2013 4:01:53 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SaraJohnson

What was happenin there then is now beginning to start over here. We have the advantage of reviewing past history. Whether we decide to heed its lesson or deny what is happening is up to us.


54 posted on 03/02/2013 4:03:51 PM PST by sport
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To: the scotsman

Those mythical ‘Nazis’! Note that they are never identified by their homeland, they might as well have come from Mars. But when it comes to their alleged collaborators, why, the nationalities are named, so that you know who to accuse and hate. Don’t tell me you haven’t bought this lie, just look at this thread: “Nazis”, “nazis”, and “Nazi’s” (supposedly that’s plural!)


55 posted on 03/02/2013 4:05:31 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Gene Eric
"Amazing what transpired in 12 short years."

Indeed! And what has happened here in 4 short years is equally amazing and most alarming!



Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

56 posted on 03/02/2013 4:28:33 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Revolting cat!
Those mythical ‘Nazis’!

Not mythical ... real followers an practitioners of a particular socialist totalitarian ideology.

I will no more tar all Germans or Austrians with the broad brush of National Socialism than I will tar all Americans with the broad brush of Abortionism.

57 posted on 03/02/2013 4:32:30 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Taggart_D

The ‘treaty’ you speak of is known as a Concordat. There were several in effect at that time with other European countries. They spelled out the rights of Catholics in those countries; the right to worship, the right to educate their own, etc. The Concordat was not approval of the Nazi regime but rather a device to protect Catholics with the force of law. Did they really think Hilter would abide by it? No, but something in writing is better than taking the word of an evil regime.


58 posted on 03/02/2013 4:37:06 PM PST by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: dfwgator

I really enjoyed War and Remembrance. Only drawback was Ali McGraw. Not a good casting decision.


59 posted on 03/02/2013 4:38:26 PM PST by randita
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To: randita
Only drawback was Ali McGraw. Not a good casting decision.

That was "The Winds of War". Jane Seymour took her place in War and Remembrance, and she was very good.

60 posted on 03/02/2013 4:40:28 PM PST by dfwgator
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