Posted on 03/03/2013 5:07:33 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
The publication last week of the Irish government's McAleese Report on the Magdalene laundries has proved kind of awkward for Catholic-bashers. For the thorough, 1,000-page study found not a single incident of sexual abuse by a nun. Not one. Also, the vast majority of its interviewees said they were never physically punished in the laundries.
As one woman said, "It has shocked me to read in papers that we were beat and our heads shaved and that we were badly treated by the nuns… I was not touched by any nun and I never saw anyone touched."
The authors seem to have been taken aback by "the number of women who spoke positively about the nuns".
And yet, some are wondering out loud if it was nonetheless legitimate and good to have produced so many embellished stories about evil nuns in recent years, as a way of highlighting the broader culture of abuse in the Catholic Church.
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When the Irish government published its Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse for the period 1950 to 2002, newspaper headlines declared "Thousands raped in Ireland's Christian Brothers schools". But actually, the commission heard allegations of 68 rapes, not thousands.
Anyone who points out that reports and depictions of abuse in Catholic institutions have been overblown risks being denounced as an abuse apologist, peskily committed to historical accuracy rather than to the grander goal of making the Catholic Church appear as rotten and warped as possible, regardless of the facts.
Yet those of us, even atheists like me, who are genuinely interested in truth.
Catholic-bashers frequently accuse the Catholic religion of promoting a childish narrative of good and evil that is immune to factual evidence. Yet they do precisely the same, in the service of their fashionable and irrational new religion of anti-Catholicism.
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...
Good to see somebody taking the British and Irish journalist-jackals to task.
I can't help but think that those who practice the latter have an axe to grind over the Church's continuing refusal to change its stance on either abortion or homosexuality, and the baby murderers and perverts are doing everything in their power to try to Alinsky the Church.
And then, there are those who would start the "Troubles" all over again, even here.
“And yet, some are wondering out loud if it was nonetheless legitimate and good to have produced so many embellished stories about evil nuns in recent years, as a way of highlighting the broader culture of abuse in the Catholic Church.”
Translation: Lies that hurt the Church and aid Liberals are okay!
How about somebody do a 50 year study of the New York City PUBLIC SCHOOL system?
Chicago?
Detroit?
Los Angeles?
Washington D.C.?
San Francisco?
Well stated. Thank You. :)
The perverted homosexuals are attacking the church from the inside. They become priest. Then rape young boys. Then go to confression. Nothing can be reported to the police.
Great article. Thanks for posting.
The Church in Ireland managed to survive hundreds of years of oppression by the British Protestant invaders, but these new attacks have been more effective—along with betrayals by some of the more liberal Irish politicians.
There are some pretty disgusting comments at the bottom of the article, comparing this study to Holocaust Denial, as well as some intelligent comments from readers who defend it. Liberals tend to be too closed minded to listen to the facts, no matter how clearly stated.
I would wager my right arm up to the shoulder that a person habituated to this sin never confesses it. Why would he? There's no gain, no benefit, no motivation to do so.
When you heard about Jerry Sandusky and Penn State, were you not horrified to learn that children were raped by a monster, others knew about it, yet did nothing to stop it and yet more children were raped?
Now please tell me what's different from this situation and what has happened at the Catholic church (except on a much larger scale at the Catholic church). Personally I don't think any embellishment is necessary. Please don't shoot the messenger, just tell me what's different.
>>>The perverted homosexuals are attacking the church from the inside. They become priest. Then rape young boys. Then go to confression. Nothing can be reported to the police>>>
You know nothing about the Catholic faith if you can believe confession works that way. The priest is merely the representative of God, and he cannot forgive a serious sin UNLESS the penitent is truly sorry and promises never to do it again. God makes the decision, not the priest. And every Catholic knows that committing the same sin over and over again does NOT erase it from his soul. Again, God will know.
Another difference would be that in reality, Sandusky's accusers were credible enough to warrant a criminal trial. His victims seem to have been more interested in justice than cash. That is rarely the case exxlesiastically.
exactly.
There is very little true pedophilia in the Church. It is much lower than in virtually any trade or profession. Also it is significantly lower in the Catholic Church than in any other Christian denomination. Many, many more instances occurs in the more ‘liberal’ Churches as well in the LDS and certainly the Muslim religions.
That being said. The effect of the Homosexual Lobby in the Catholic Hierarchy of the Church, often called the Lavender Mafia, can not be over stated. It has brought great disrepute and done great damage to the Latin Church. It is almost certainly be caused by the loosening of the acceptance standards for homosexuals into the priesthood. The Homosexuals than rapidly advanced and often filled very influential posts in the hierarchy where they could protect and cover for their and their fellow perverts.
Make no mistake. The Liberals in society have no real problem with Gay Priests as they approve very much the same activity in the wider secular World. They also appreciate the opportunity to bash the Church of Rome since they hate any organization that willfully stands in their way of sexual and secular utopia.
Please read my post #11.
The level of pedophilia is stunning and abuse of young males. I feel sorry for those that thought they were giving money to God but the money was part of hundreds on millions that went to defiled children. Now a Cardinal. Wow. It is my opinion that Ratzinger bailed on the real depth of the continuing scandal. It is sad because there are so many saved souls looking up to these perverts but as my Grand Mother told me. “Keep your Eyes on Jesus “ Willard!!
If anything, the crime is 10 times worse when done by someone consecrated to the Christian faith.
Brendan O'neill's point is the Irish and British journalists have falsely accused thousands, even tens of thousands of blameless priests and nuns, by their wild, and in some cases wilful, slanders.
False accusation protects no child, benefits no innocent person, and constitutes an assault on the only institutions which still teach that acts of sexual perversion are intrinsically immoral.
Surely you know that.
Yesrs ago, there was in my hometown a fireman who was an arsonist. Strange but true. What makes more sense: to prosecute him, and anyone who covered up incriminating evidence? Or to vilify, bankrupt with lawsuits, slander, and possibly abolish fire departments?
since I know people who were horribly abused by their ever beloved parish priest I find your post offensive on oh so many levels. If you think that the cases in the American version of the catholic church are all just out for money you are sorely mistaken. Too often when these young men came forward the statute of limitations had passed and hence no prosecution occurred. When priests are hidden away and ‘treated’ for pedophilia and then released onto a new congregation with no supervision and no warning to parishioners, I say there is something endemically wrong.
The difference is that it happens much more often in sports that a coach sexually assaults a child than it ever happens in the Catholic Church. It happens more often in MOST areas of society. The Church is simply held to a higher standard. As they should be. There is also much more of an interest in damaging the Catholic Church than organized sports.
Like MOST male ‘Pedophiles’ Jerry Sandusky was a homosexual who preferred pubescent adolescent boys. They where all between age 12 - 19 and he started a charity ‘the Second Mile Foundation’ in order to increase his access to troubled teens whom he could engage in sexual acts. He is an Ephebophile. Many Homosexuals are. They desire young pubescent boys. Many older Homosexuals try to emulate the characteristics of pubescent boys like hairless chests and slight body builds in order to attract other homosexual men.
Using your analogy I’d consider Jesus to be the fire department, not the Catholic church. You got him, you’re covered.
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