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Strongsville teachers 'overwhelmingy' vote to strike March 4
Sun News ^ | 3/4/2013 | Cory Shaffer

Posted on 03/04/2013 5:39:38 AM PST by Gorilla44

More than 380 members of the Strongsville Education Association voted to go on strike starting at midnight March 4. In the conference room at the Strongsville Holiday Inn, the teachers, guidance counselors and psychologists voted "overwhelmingly" to reject the Strongsville School Board's last best offer, given at March 2 collective bargaining negotiations, and instead deliver a work stoppage to the board of education, according to a press release.

The strike culminates more than seven months of regular negotiations and more than a month of protests from the teachers at board of education meetings and most recently at the Strongsville Police Department March 3. (clip) School Board President David Frazee said the teachers' vote was unfortunate.

"I guess the good thing is that we've been prepared for this since they made the announcement," he said, referring to the SEA filing its 10-day notice of intent to strike Feb. 21. "As much as I don't want to see this happen, we're going to keep moving forward, keep the schools open and keep everyone safe" (clip)

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


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I'm posting this because the majority of the community are supporting the school board and not the teachers. People have finally reached their tipping point and want the teachers to suck it up like the rest of us. Here's a few recent news clips of teachers getting in the faces of their replacements and of parents getting in the faces of the teachers. Good times.

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/oh_cuyahoga/residents-in-strongsville-describe-imminent-school-strike-scene-as-war-zone
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/oh_cuyahoga/concerned-parents-of-strongsville-students-hostile-teachers-setting-bad-example
Here's the final offer from the school board:
http://www.cleveland.com/strongsville/index.ssf/2013/03/strongsville_school_board_publ.html
1 posted on 03/04/2013 5:39:50 AM PST by Gorilla44
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To: Gorilla44

Union mobsters...I mean, leaders, need a pay raise?


2 posted on 03/04/2013 5:41:00 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Gorilla44
If I were on the school board I would immediately advertise that 330 positions at the school just opened and they are now taking applications!

Then watch as 5,000 line up to take the jobs and laugh my ass off at all the stupid x-teachers that are now unemployed.

3 posted on 03/04/2013 5:44:34 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; Gorilla44

The “public school”, including the “charter school”, is BY FAR, the largest, most expensive, most subversive, and most destructive entitlement program in the country.

The “public school” is better understood as the “government school collective”.

It is silly to imagine that you can fix the public schools, because the very concept itself is collectivist.

Any child that comes out of the government school collective with their moral compass and common sense intact does so in spite of the government school indoctrination, not because of it.

It is hypocritical for you to submit your children to an authority with whom you fundamentally disagree. And your children will know it.

To understand the content and compass of modern education, see ...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/54400125/Change-Agents-in-the-Schools-Barbara-Morris-1979

If you want to win the culture war, have lots of children (see my tagline) and homeschool them or form your own school cooperative with your church or synagogue and like-minded friends and relatives.

Nobody loves your children more than you do.

Nobody can teach your children better than you can.

Nobody knows your children better than you do.

Your children would love nothing better than to be taught by you, if you start doing so before they are corrupted by the government school collective.

If you have children, make whatever sacrifices you must to get them out of the public schools.

DO NOT FEED THE BEAST!

Especially not with your own children.

And DO NOT TAKE GOVERNMENT “EDUCATION” MONEY!

He that pays the piper calls the tune, and that’s especially true for any government entitlement program.


4 posted on 03/04/2013 5:44:55 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The teachers are being replaced and the schools are up and running today.


5 posted on 03/04/2013 5:48:08 AM PST by Gorilla44
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To: Gorilla44

Fire every one of the ba$tards. Each and every teacher(?) who fails to show up for work for the next school day, should be fired immediately. There’re lots of people with education degrees who’d love to take their jobs.


6 posted on 03/04/2013 5:48:15 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Gorilla44

You can expect students across Ohio to suddenly get assignments of finding news articles online, printing them out and then writing about this strike. These educrats always stick up for their buddies.


7 posted on 03/04/2013 5:53:08 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Gorilla44

So much for the importance of education. If teachers can walk out, I guess it really isn’t that important.


8 posted on 03/04/2013 5:54:37 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Gorilla44
I'm posting this because the majority of the community are supporting the school board and not the teachers.

I live about 30 minutes away, and I can attest to that.
9 posted on 03/04/2013 6:01:45 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Gorilla44

Stronsville is a pretty well-run and fairly affluent community. Within commuting distance of Cleveland and most business areas, yet still barely within the county.

It’s hard to predict how things will go.

On the one hand, the Dems infest this entire area, and many people were raised to be sympathetic with the union.

On the other, a good many of the residents of Strongsville moved there to get away from the awful Cleveland public school system.

My sense right now, is most people would like to know more about the specifics of the labor disagreement, but that’s all confidential for some reason. They sympathize with the teacher’s right to strike, but are pretty taken aback by the unprofessional, entitled, and thuggish antics of the union - even before the strike started.

I have a feeling it’s going to be a long, drawn out brawl. Considering that there’s less than 4 months in the school year, I think the board’s going to try to wait the teachers out, which will put them in a much better negotiating position for the summer.


10 posted on 03/04/2013 6:03:01 AM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
If I were on the school board I would immediately advertise that 330 positions at the school just opened and they are now taking applications!

I believe they pretty much did. The news yesterday was that the picketers were outside city hall (shouting and taunting) while numerous applicants crossed the picket lines to apply for substitute positions.
11 posted on 03/04/2013 6:05:07 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Gorilla44

It may be a quaint notion but I would have thought the power of a strike lies in the sudden removal of supply from the supply/demand equation. But what if the demand is not at the level the strikers imagine?

Were I the school board or the community, I would view the strike not as a crisis but as a windfall: an opportunity to part company with the incompetent, the trouble-makers, the dead weight. Of course, this is why unions bang on about ‘collective bargaining’ and have convinced the gullible that it’s automatically a good thing (see also: Wisconsin) when in reality it’s the worst sort of camouflage for those who should otherwise be sacked.


12 posted on 03/04/2013 6:13:10 AM PST by relictele
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To: Gorilla44

Russia, Germany, Italy, Japan, Korea, Cuba....lefties certainly do love their chanting. Helps them avoid independent thought or intelligent conversation I suppose.

The scenes of mousy-brown-hair-and-glasses ‘educators’ getting in the face of substitutes are nothing short of shameful. Why are they permitted to set up their gauntlet of abuse along the school sidewalk? Why isn’t there a cordon set up by the hapless cop? Aren’t these the same people who moan about bullying among 6-year-olds and kick them out of school for any mention of guns? They are cowards and frauds.


13 posted on 03/04/2013 6:20:17 AM PST by relictele
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To: Gorilla44

My husband and I were watching WOIO, and we thought we heard during an interview with a parent that the teachers were encouraging the kids to “act up” for the subs?


14 posted on 03/04/2013 6:20:34 AM PST by karatemom
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To: relictele

Unionized cops


15 posted on 03/04/2013 6:29:57 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Westbrook
Nobody can teach your children better than you can.

I disagree with this statement. My parents taught me what they could, but they couldn't educate me in fields they had no experience with. For most 'families' there is a limit to the 'education' they can give to their child.

16 posted on 03/04/2013 6:34:18 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: karatemom
"My husband and I were watching WOIO, and we thought we heard during an interview with a parent that the teachers were encouraging the kids to “act up” for the subs?"

back during the Clinton Admin. Our local teachers went on strike. It got vicious. They brought in coal miner unions to help. Cars destroyed, buildings vandalized and even the Superintendent's dog hung and gutted while it was still alive.

The security team that protected the replacement teachers filmed everything as it happened. (except for the dog incident it was done at night with torches lighting the way of the little KKK wannabes.)

The strike went on for weeks and the blowback on the teachers was legendary. Many things came to light, for instance the secret ballot vote was done by a show of hands and they were all sitting in a big circle so everyone could see who didn't raise their hand (several conservative teachers were targeted by the thugs and had property damaged and were physically assaulted because they did not vote for the strike and told the public what was going on!).

The teachers encouraged the kids to throw desks out the windows of the upper stories and to destroy books and break windows (all caught on tape).

The tapes of all these incidents were edited down to a very illuminating highlights package and distributed around town. When the strike was finally settled the teachers got less than the administration initially offered (much less).

Now every time the teachers mention strike those videos (which were long ago converted to digital files) start magically showing up on local bulletin boards with messages like "We haven't forgotten!" and amazingly the teachers accept what the Admin. offers and then shuts up.

If they go on strike in your area get your neighbors together and film them as long as they are picketing. Sunshine is their enemy and video proof enables the townsfolk to have a long and viral memory!

17 posted on 03/04/2013 6:41:56 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Gorilla44

Most all teachers have a Bachelor’s degree AND a Master’s Degree yet they feel they need to pay $100 per month in union dues so some union thug can negotiate on their behalf. Seems to me with two degrees they ought to be smart enough to negotiate on their own without making union bosses rich at salaries that far surpass the puppet teachers.


18 posted on 03/04/2013 6:50:18 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: Gorilla44
So, what are the issues?

1) The school board is offering to increase the base salary of every teacher by 9.3% as it opts out of any further board contributions to teacher retirement programs, instead giving the money to the teachers to invest as they please. The sticking point: Union wanted 10.5% to take into account taxes.

2) The school board wanted teacher contributions to their health care to rise from 10% to 15%, with a cap of $200 per family, up from the present $150. The sticking points: The union wanted payments to stay the same for union members who passed a health screening, and wanted the cap per family to only rise to $175.

3) The board wanted to continue a salary freeze throughout the district. The sticking point: Union would agree to that, so long as those who have had their pay frozen the previous two years would have their base salary increased to where they would be today absent the freeze.

4) And finally: The board wanted to base layoffs off of teacher evaluations, with seniority ONLY used as a decider between two teachers of equal evaluation. The sticking point: The union wanted layoffs to be ONLY based upon seniority.

So, to summarize: The board offered to raise teacher salaries across the board by 9.3%, wanted teachers to pay up to $50 per month more for their health care, wanted to continue the existing pay freeze, and base layoffs solely off of evaluations.

Hopefully the public continues to reject the advances of the thugs who are attempting to use children as hostages in the face of very reasonable requests from the board.

19 posted on 03/04/2013 6:59:55 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

You have to be a special kind of sick to do that to a hapless dog. Your account was chilling yet illuminating. I was a private school teacher for ten years and I shake my head when I watch “professionals” behave in such a boorish manner.


20 posted on 03/04/2013 7:13:50 AM PST by karatemom
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To: kingu
Many thanks for stating the key points. Looking at it objectively ( trying to ignore my distaste for teachers unions) it seems that the two sides aren't that far apart...surely not enough differences to warrant a strike, with all the disruption to the kids and their parents..

There has to be another agenda here, somewhere. Possibly it's the seniority question? That has been a bedrock principal of all teachers' union negotiations throughout the country, stupidly so. They want NOTHING to do with evaluations, merit. That was a major cause of the Chicago teachers' strike as well.

21 posted on 03/04/2013 7:21:36 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Gorilla44
When you expect people to slave away for 30 hours a week, 9 months a year and only offer them a salary above the national average plus full healthcare benefits and a full pension then you are just begging for a strike.

These poor, oppressed people.

22 posted on 03/04/2013 7:22:29 AM PST by wideawake
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"You have to be a special kind of sick to do that to a hapless dog. Your account was chilling yet illuminating."

After a few years we finally rooted out who was responsible. Two male teachers did the deed. They were ratted out by another who was caught stealing from the school and given the choice of pointing the finger at those responsible and being allowed to leave the school system quietly or ending up in jail. (the guy has stolen over 40k in funds and goods over the years.) After a few nighttime visits those two dog hating male teachers saw fit to seek employment elsewhere and moved.

No harm was done just promises of court proceedings and a jury pool consisting of townsfolk that had had enough of union thugs.

23 posted on 03/04/2013 7:48:28 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: UCANSEE2

> I disagree with this statement.

The statement was not focused on WHAT you can teach, but rather HOW you can teach.

If you want to teach more advanced subjects, you will have to learn them yourself or subscribe to a satellite school that provides the material.

My wife and I have homeschooled 9 children. There is virtually no limit to what you can teach.

Meanwhile, you should consider very carefully allowing your children to be taught by the communists at your neighbor’s expense.


24 posted on 03/04/2013 8:19:13 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Post them tapes on YouTube!


25 posted on 03/04/2013 8:08:43 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

more reason to abolish publik skoolz


26 posted on 03/04/2013 8:12:40 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: kingu
The school board wanted teacher contributions to their health care to rise from 10% to 15%, with a cap of $200 per family, up from the present $150. The sticking points: The union wanted payments to stay the same for union members who passed a health screening, and wanted the cap per family to only rise to $175.

The private sector can't get deals as good as those!

27 posted on 03/04/2013 8:13:57 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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