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Jeb Bush reverses course: No path to citizenship necessary in immigration reform
Yahoo News ^ | 3/4/2013 | Liz Goodwin

Posted on 03/04/2013 10:34:36 AM PST by South40

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said in a TV interview Monday that he no longer supports a path to citizenship in an immigration reform bill, a reversal that puts him to the right of the current bipartisan immigration proposal forming in the Senate.

"If we want to create an immigration policy that's going to work, we can't continue to make illegal immigration an easier path than legal immigration," Bush said on NBC's "Today" show. "I think it's important that there's a natural friction between our immigrant heritage and the rule of law. This is the right place, I think, to be in that sense."

Bush, a Republican, supported immigration reform even when many in his party shifted to a harder line stance in the 2012 primary. As recently as last August, he said in interviews that he thought most of the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants should be put on a gradual path to citizenship if they meet certain conditions.

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1 posted on 03/04/2013 10:34:41 AM PST by South40
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To: South40

Jeb sure is a quick study /s


2 posted on 03/04/2013 10:36:54 AM PST by skeeter
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To: South40

just one question Jeb - who cares what you think?


3 posted on 03/04/2013 10:37:36 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (I'll surrender my guns alright - bullets first)
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To: South40
"If we want to create an immigration policy that's going to work, we can't continue to make illegal immigration an easier path than legal immigration . . . "

Paging Captain Obvious, please pick up the white courtesy phone. Does one Bushie finally get it? Or is he just thinking about the 2016 Republican Primary season?

4 posted on 03/04/2013 10:37:43 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: South40

More triangulating weasel words.


5 posted on 03/04/2013 10:39:40 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: South40

Hahaha Jeb - tricky no worky - stay out da Bushes


6 posted on 03/04/2013 10:40:49 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: South40

I don’t care what lies he spews, what tunes he changes. I WON’T vote for a BUSH for President. EVER!

His brother, while an honorable man and spent his entire 8 years keeping us safe from terrorists, made some very horrible mistakes. One was establishment of the DHS and it’s bastard oppressive America-hating employee collective, the TSA, and the other was that he ignored the economy here in lieu of his fight against terrorism....

He was too gullible, to compassionately conservative, and all-too-willing to believe in the best of a Democrat Politician when there is no, repeat NO, reason to do so. They are evil. IF you consort with evil and entertain amnesty, false compassion, et al, you are with the Devil....

NO MORE BUSHs....


7 posted on 03/04/2013 10:42:54 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: South40

Hand over ears, lalalalalalalalalalalala


8 posted on 03/04/2013 10:45:19 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Gaffer

Here comes Hilary.


9 posted on 03/04/2013 10:45:52 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Vigilanteman

Your last guess is the most likely: he’s already positioning for the 2016 primaries. I don’t trust any of the Bush family. Reagan’s selection of Bush senior for his VP was his first and biggest mistake.


10 posted on 03/04/2013 10:45:52 AM PST by TexasKamaAina
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To: Williams

And, is this your entreaty that I have to vote for another effing Bush?


11 posted on 03/04/2013 10:48:33 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: TADSLOS

JEB (married to “Columba” a Mexican woman) is more pro ILLEGAL alien than his brother could ever be. He cannot be trusted.


12 posted on 03/04/2013 10:49:10 AM PST by South40
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To: South40

Jeb bush, my former guvenor is a RINO turd.
Amnesty is high on his priority, and he is after all G.W.s brother and G.W. was NO Conservative.
And as for his preppy father? Forgetaboutit.
Jeb. Just go away.


13 posted on 03/04/2013 10:49:32 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Joe Boucher

Any legislation that allows the lawbreakers to stay and work here is amnesty. A path to citizenship is not necessary to be deemed an amnesty.


14 posted on 03/04/2013 10:52:10 AM PST by kabar
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To: South40
Re illegal immigration: now why would jebby all of sudden say he is for the rule of law? Start playing the RUN FOR PRESIDENT game early, but keep the citizens guessing for now so it appears legit if the NWO elites decide to put him in the WH over the hildabeast. There isn't a jail cell good enough for the whole damned clan of the Bush criminal enterprise.
15 posted on 03/04/2013 10:52:25 AM PST by drypowder
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To: South40

lol

that just ended any doubt that he will be running in 2016.

Who does he think he is fooling?

Stay out of da Bush’s!!!


16 posted on 03/04/2013 10:52:39 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: South40; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz; GOPJ; ...
RE :”Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said in a TV interview Monday that he no longer supports a path to citizenship in an immigration reform bill, a reversal that puts him to the right of the current bipartisan immigration proposal forming in the Senate.
“If we want to create an immigration policy that's going to work, we can't continue to make illegal immigration an easier path than legal immigration,” Bush said on NBC’s “Today” show. “I think it's important that there's a natural friction between our immigrant heritage and the rule of law. This is the right place, I think, to be in that sense.”

This is very good. He is making sense here:

1) Why the hell would Republicans give illegal aliens (esp ones in demographics that overwhelmingly support liberal redistribution policies) the vote ? Isnt this suicide?

2) Democrats wont support a immigration bill that does not have path to citizenship, which is a good reason to support one (that they wont accept).

3) The just be against everything (in the House) strategy is not working, in case you havent noticed Bohner is passing Democrats Senate bills using Dem votes, partly because there are no alternative Republican House bills on them that he can get passed (unite) with just GOP votes. So Obama is winning. He got the Senate modified VAWA. His agenda is slowly getting passed.

17 posted on 03/04/2013 10:52:57 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: South40

Of course he can’t be trusted. As far as I’m concerned we should be at war with Mexico. They have aided and abetted the invasion of the people even they don’t want in their own country to rob, rape, murder and devastate our support infrastucture here. And, Jeb, wants his wifey to be able to speak spanish with more people or something? These people need to be here? They only want to be free? WTF?

I’ll die before I even consider or discuss anything substantive about the merits of another effing Bush in the WH at this point after having seen what W ushered us into for 8 friggin years.


18 posted on 03/04/2013 10:53:30 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: South40

The Bush family is part of the Hegelian Dialectic to move us over to the Hard Left—Marxist State. Evil Prescott and all the Bushes have been poisoned by the “Skull and Bone’s” brainwashing of Satanists. Just “google” the “Franklin Cover-Up”. They are no different than the Far Left——they just “need” to “appear” Conservative and “Christian”. Boiling Frog effect.

Why have we been drifting so far Left after 8 years of W???????? And Obama was the “gift” of W. The puppet masters have their plan.


19 posted on 03/04/2013 10:53:41 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: South40
We traded the Reagan revolution for the Bush family.

It's long past time to just say...

NO
More
Bush!!!

Haven't we been damaged enough by those people?!?

It's my fault. I've voted four times for Bushes, as each vote for was better than the alternative, but now I'm not so sure.

After all of them, we still wound up in the same place: Broke with progressives running everything...into the ground.

20 posted on 03/04/2013 10:57:47 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: South40

The problem with CINOs is that, even when they agree with conservatives, their heart is not in it. It’s a calculated position. Does anyone really think Jeb Bush thinks this is the best course of action? Or did he arrive at this position by way of some poll-based focus-groupthink? The latter.


21 posted on 03/04/2013 10:57:59 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: South40

Republicans are fail, Jeb Bush.

You are fail, Jeb Bush.


22 posted on 03/04/2013 10:59:05 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: South40

He knows that the supreme court would simply make them citizens after a few years. Typical RINO thinking he can outsmart us ignernt hillbillies.


23 posted on 03/04/2013 11:00:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: sickoflibs

Very interesting perspective
sickoflibs[notcompletelytalingoveronceandforall]


24 posted on 03/04/2013 11:01:17 AM PST by DManA
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To: South40

Good!

Now I can see myself voting for him in 2016. He is becoming the best choice for victory.

Nah, I’m just screwing with ya.


25 posted on 03/04/2013 11:03:50 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: GBA
We traded the Reagan revolution for the Bush family.

To be more precise, the Bush royal family and their fellow Big Government Republicans spent over 20 years purging Reaganites out of the party.

26 posted on 03/04/2013 11:04:28 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: F15Eagle
Hahaha Jeb - tricky no worky - stay out da Bushes

LOL...


27 posted on 03/04/2013 11:04:42 AM PST by Jane Long
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To: South40

60-70% of illegals could care less about US citizenship and are not in a hurry to get it. What they treasure above all and want is legal green card status so any job here is open to them and all the welfare/medical/housing/Obama-Care programs too


28 posted on 03/04/2013 11:06:21 AM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: DManA

Immigration reform bills WITHOUT citizenship are toxic to most Dems and esp the Democat base.

To them it just helps businesses/employers (Take advantage of workers) who they hate (the businesses).

They want illegals to vote, that is their #1 reason why they want the reform. They wont accept anything else.

Know your enemy. That is how O has been beating Republicans.

And the ‘no jump ahead’ one is a good one rhetorically too


29 posted on 03/04/2013 11:15:02 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: TexasKamaAina
Way back at the start of the 2012 Primary season when everyone was piling on Mitt Romney, I said he was nothing more than a place holder for the Bush family.

I'll give Mitt credit for at least trying to win, but I still think I'm right about him being a placeholder for Jeb. Jeb is going to look awfully good after four more years of Zer0.

I can't think of a worse match-up than Hillary vs. Jeb.

30 posted on 03/04/2013 11:15:36 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: TexasKamaAina
Way back at the start of the 2012 Primary season when everyone was piling on Mitt Romney, I said he was nothing more than a place holder for the Bush family.

I'll give Mitt credit for at least trying to win, but I still think I'm right about him being a placeholder for Jeb. Jeb is going to look awfully good after four more years of Zer0.

I can't think of a worse match-up than Hillary vs. Jeb.

31 posted on 03/04/2013 11:16:08 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: sickoflibs
This is very good. He is making sense here:

Sense? Only to the low infoamation, ignorant voter.

Why the hell would Republicans give illegal aliens (esp ones in demographics that overwhelmingly support liberal redistribution policies) the vote ? Isnt this suicide?

Our legal immigration policies are already suicide for the Reps. We bring in 1.2 million legal immigrants a year, two thirds of whom will vote Dem.

When you legalize the status of the 11 to 20 million lawbreakers, you enable them to bring in tens of millions of their relatives thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification.

And does anyone really think that we can create a second class of permanent legal residents who have no opportunity to become citizens like other green card holders? The issue will be taken to the courts and the lawbreakers will be given the right to apply for citizenship. If the courts don't rule in their favor, the Dems in Congress and the WH will eventually change it.

) Democrats wont support a immigration bill that does not have path to citizenship, which is a good reason to support one (that they wont accept.

Please don't throw me into that briar patch. The Dems know that once the 11 to 20 million are legalized, the rest will be easy. They will remain the champions of immigrants and minorities. They will fight for the civil rights of the oppressed. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as classified by the USG and by 2042 half of the country will be. Demography is destiny.

) The just be against everything (in the House) strategy is not working, in case you havent noticed Bohner is passing Democrats Senate bills using Dem votes, partly because there are no alternative Republican House bills on them that he can get passed (unite) with just GOP votes. So Obama is winning. He got the Senate modified VAWA. His agenda is slowly getting passed.

And Reps who support anmnesty, i.e., giving the lawbreakers the right to stay and work here, are helping Obama pass his agenda. It is reminiscent of don't ask, don't tell, which was just an interim measure to allow gays to openly serve in the military and Obamacare, which will lead to single payer health care.

32 posted on 03/04/2013 11:19:20 AM PST by kabar
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RE :”And does anyone really think that we can create a second class of permanent legal residents who have no opportunity to become citizens like other green card holders? The issue will be taken to the courts and the lawbreakers will be given the right to apply for citizenship. If the courts don't rule in their favor, the Dems in Congress and the WH will eventually change it. “

It will never get that far. A immigration bill without voting would never pass the Senate, the unions and the rest of the base will threaten to primary any Dems who support it.

Only low information voters (Rush listeners) think they would go for it.

Look, Bohner just passed a modified VAWA that gives protection to gay partners because Reid sent it to him. If Reid gets a bill with path to voting passed in Senate there is nothing to stop it from reaching Obama’s desk.

Romney tried the ‘self deport’ in his campaign, that went really well.

33 posted on 03/04/2013 11:27:34 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: sickoflibs

The Bushs are my enemy. I have come to know them very well.


34 posted on 03/04/2013 11:29:06 AM PST by DManA
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To: South40
Sounds like Jorge's Exasperating Brother has gone into triangulation mode in hopes of getting conservatives to soften up on him. Guess what, Jebby... ain't gonna work.
35 posted on 03/04/2013 11:31:32 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: kabar
RE:” The issue will be taken to the courts and the lawbreakers will be given the right to apply for citizenship. If the courts don't rule in their favor, the Dems in Congress and the WH will eventually change it. “

Name a case where a judge ever successfully made a non-citizen a citizen.

but while you bring it up, keep losing POTUS elections and a few more wise latinos on the court and who knows what they will make up.

36 posted on 03/04/2013 11:32:26 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: DManA
RE :”The Bushs are my enemy. I have come to know them very well.”

I bet I been called BDS here more times than you have.

But maybe Jeb is better than the last two were HA-Ha

37 posted on 03/04/2013 11:34:52 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: sickoflibs

Really. Trust us. Jeb isn’t his father. Jeb isn’t his brother. Jeb is a REAL conservative.

“Fool me once shame on you, fool me — umm — err -— uh -— can’t get fooled again.”


38 posted on 03/04/2013 11:39:56 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA
RE :”Really. Trust us. Jeb isn’t his father. Jeb isn’t his brother. Jeb is a REAL conservative”

Isnt Rubio sucking all the air out of a Jeb Bush run? How do you compare those to each other?

39 posted on 03/04/2013 11:43:36 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: sickoflibs

I don’t compare them. I reject Bush out of hand.

Rubio bears watching. He’s still a poosibility in my mind.


40 posted on 03/04/2013 11:46:32 AM PST by DManA
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To: South40

I. Don’t. Trust. A. Damned. Word. He Says.


41 posted on 03/04/2013 11:48:56 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: Williams
Here comes Hilary.

The GOP-e tried the RINO in 2008. Can't blame McCain for everything, Bush fatigue was a big factor, but he sure as heck did little to help himself other than picking Palin for his running mate.

In 2012, the GOP-E demanded the RINO again. And picked possibly the worst candidate to run against Obama. 2012 was the Republican's election to lose, and they managed to lose it.

Now you are back saying we have to back the RINO yet again? Pffft. The only thing that could win it for Jeb is Obama fatigue. And that is a pretty risky plan.

42 posted on 03/04/2013 11:48:56 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: sickoflibs
This is very good. He is making sense here:

I don't trust him as far as I could throw him. It's clear he is running rightwards on this issue to position for the 2016 primaries. If he were to win the White House, he would run right back leftwards again on this issue. He's held the position of a path to citizenship for way too long to believe otherwise.

43 posted on 03/04/2013 11:51:19 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: DManA

Yes, this is obvious deception. Years of illegal pandering and he suddenly reverses. Nice try, Jeb, but no way we are buying it. Buzz off.


44 posted on 03/04/2013 11:51:19 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: South40

All he’s interested in is... The Path To The Presiduncy!!!


45 posted on 03/04/2013 11:56:59 AM PST by SierraWasp (Mark Twain said: "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled!!!)
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To: South40

Am I the only one who thought Jeb Bush had disappeared into a sinkhole?


46 posted on 03/04/2013 11:59:52 AM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: dirtboy

Watch the GOPe/Rove turds rehabilitate Jeb, Christie and Mitt for 2016....with a side dish of Huntsman.


47 posted on 03/04/2013 12:09:19 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Vigilanteman

Probably just the latter. If he gets in, his actual stance on illegal immigration won’t differ from his brother or Obama.


48 posted on 03/04/2013 12:09:32 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: iopscusa

Mitt says he won’t run again and I believe him.


49 posted on 03/04/2013 12:12:01 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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To: DManA

Rubio is Jeb’s sock puppet.


50 posted on 03/04/2013 12:14:07 PM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio. for Amnesty, Spanish, and Karl Rove.)
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