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Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin: CPAC 2013 will determine America's future
The Hill ^ | March 4, 2013 | Bernie Quigley

Posted on 03/04/2013 5:01:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

What happens at CPAC 2013 will divide the past from the future. Conservatives will chose between nostalgic pleasantries or a dynamic horizon. Conservatives will consolidate one way or another. In my view, conservatives will choose the future and they will choose Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin.

There is a division today in what is called conservatism, although it should be called something else. It has been forming for several years and will come to clarity and decision in CPAC 2013. The new directions — states’ rights, sound money and constitutional government — of what might be called the gnarly conservatives will come to clash with traditional or what might be called "nice" conservatives (“the establishment”). The nice: Jeb Bush, Chris Christie and Dr. Ben Carson. The gnarly: Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent.

Since last week, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has moved from participant to key speaker at the CPAC conference. Cruz will take leadership, and a rising conservative movement will begin to form and will run the century.

The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin writes this morning: “The Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) is taking a lot of guff, rightly so, I think, from conservatives over excluding New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) and groups like GOProud from its gathering. When the newest conservative hero, Dr. Ben Carson, tells you you’ve screwed up, maybe it is time to rethink the strategy of systematically shrinking the tent.”

And there you have it in a nutshell...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: New Jersey; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alaska; bencarson; chrischristie; cpac; gop; newjersey; palin; republicans; rinos; sarahpalin; tedcruz; texas
Why doesn't the GOP-e just join the Democratic Party?
1 posted on 03/04/2013 5:01:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why doesn't the GOP-e just join the Democratic Party?

Because where they are now, they serve the Democrat Party's purpose perfectly in the destruction of the GOP.

2 posted on 03/04/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have yet to see a conservative, at least what I consider a conservative not what the dems consider a conservative say that Chris Christie should be at CPAC. Or GOP proud for that matter. Most conservative I know find it distressing that a group like GOP Proud should have a special place in the party. Last I knew conservatives see all people equally and not by sexual preference.


3 posted on 03/04/2013 5:12:07 PM PST by jimpick
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To: onyx; Abbeville Conservative; abigailsmybaby; afnamvet; alley cat; antceecee; APatientMan; aphid; ..
The GOP isn't called the Stupid Party for nothing, Sarah seems to think we can take them over though Ping!

Why doesn't the GOP-e just join the Democratic Party? They are Both the Party of Government!


4 posted on 03/04/2013 5:14:16 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: onyx; Abbeville Conservative; abigailsmybaby; afnamvet; alley cat; antceecee; APatientMan; aphid; ..
The GOP isn't called the Stupid Party for nothing, Sarah seems to think we can take them over though Ping!

Why doesn't the GOP-e just join the Democratic Party? They are Both the Party of Government!


5 posted on 03/04/2013 5:15:08 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m for shrinking the tent.

Problem is, I’m for shrinking it in the opposite direction.

Wake up people. We have just lost two elections running in the middle. People do not vote for a candidate in the middle.

For crying out loud.


6 posted on 03/04/2013 5:16:06 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nixon, Ford, Bush41, Dole, Bush43, McCain, Romney, Jeb Bush, Christie — Enough is enough!!!

The GOP loses b/c it puts up lilly-livered RINOs, and the voting public can't see a difference with the Marxists promoted by the ‘RATS. Millions of conservatives sat on their hands in the 2012 election cycle; no way were they going to vote for a Massachusetts liberal masquerading as a conservative.

Bold colors, not pastels. Win the argument, then the vote.

7 posted on 03/04/2013 5:16:54 PM PST by twister881
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To: jimpick; 2ndDivisionVet
Last I knew conservatives see all people equally and not by sexual preference.

NAILED IT!

If the Gays want to come and support CPAC, fine.

Just don't bring your obnoxious Balkanizing Political Group with you!

It's the democrats who divide people up into groups and pander, we are suppose to about principles, if the Gays have our principles than they should want to part of us, and NOT let their preferences get in the way.

If they want to moderate us that bad, go moderate the party that actually needs it.


8 posted on 03/04/2013 5:19:21 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Either the R’s win the house or the country is GONE. Simple as that.


9 posted on 03/04/2013 5:21:06 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: twister881; Cringing Negativism Network
Fun Fact:

Since 1928 the GOP hasn't won a Presidential Election unless Richard Nixon or George Bush has been on the ticket.

Think about that for a second.


10 posted on 03/04/2013 5:22:49 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What is the difference between Republican Headquarters and Democrat Headquarters?

Post office box

Other than that it is the same bunch of frat-boys and sorority-sisters playing out their consulting dreams. Uck!

11 posted on 03/04/2013 5:27:58 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: CincyRichieRich
Either the R’s win the house or the country is GONE. Simple as that.

Didn't we go down this road last year with Mitt? Aren't we supposed to be looking for something more than just having an "R" tattooed on their butt? I dunno, like CONSERVATIVE VALUES?

12 posted on 03/04/2013 5:32:24 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: ptsal

Other than that it is the same bunch of frat-boys and sorority-sisters playing out their consulting dreams. Uck!

Did you mean Fey-boys and scissor-sisters?


13 posted on 03/04/2013 5:44:58 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: onyx; KC_Lion; 2ndDivisionVet; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ...

Thanks KC_Lion. Know your enemy.
14 posted on 03/04/2013 5:51:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: KC_Lion

Will Sarah be attending CPAC 2013, and if so, will she be speaking?


15 posted on 03/04/2013 5:51:34 PM PST by Will88
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To: KC_Lion
Since 1928 the GOP hasn't won a Presidential Election unless Richard Nixon or George Bush has been on the ticket.

And I'll add that in the course of the 20th and 21st centuries, there have been exactly TWO authentic Conservatives ascending to the presidency from the GOP:

Calvin Coolidge
Ronald Reagan

All the others (and yes, that includes Teddy Roosevelt and Herbert Hoover along with the rest) have had strains of liberalism marring their administrations. Now, more than ever, it's time for Sarah Palin to help take America back!


16 posted on 03/04/2013 5:52:04 PM PST by re_nortex
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To: KC_Lion

You should probably spend a little more time on research.


17 posted on 03/04/2013 5:55:05 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CincyRichieRich

/bingo


18 posted on 03/04/2013 6:00:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Really?

Eisenhower/Nixon 1952 and 1956

Nixon/Agnew 1968 and 1972

Reagan/Bush 1980 and 1984

Bush/Quayle 1988

Bush/Cheney 2000 and 2004

Goldwater/Miller '64,Ford/Dole '76,Bush/Quayle '92 (yeah they lost), Dole/Kemp '96, McPain/Palin '08 :(, Romney/Ryan '12. all Looses

Seems like the Elite's like their Bushes and Nixons

19 posted on 03/04/2013 6:04:23 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I almost forgot!

'32 Hoover/Curtis, '36 Landon/Knox, '40 Willkie/McNary, '44 Dewey/Bricker, '48 Dewey/Warren

No Nixon's or Bushes, but most if not all Big Government Republicans.

20 posted on 03/04/2013 6:09:39 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Will88
Yes, last I heard she will be there and she will be speaking.

Sadly so will "Me Too Mitt"!

I wonder who will have more support......

21 posted on 03/04/2013 6:16:06 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: SunkenCiv
Why Rand? WHY?


22 posted on 03/04/2013 6:16:21 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Will88

Yes, she will also speak at these two events:

Governor Sarah Palin to Deliver Keynote Address at Terri Schiavo Life & Hope Award Gala
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2986454/posts

Sarah Palin Heads Roster at Leadership Forum at Southeastern University (Florida)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2993112/posts


23 posted on 03/04/2013 6:29:05 PM PST by bibliophilly (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: re_nortex
You Betcha re nortex!


24 posted on 03/04/2013 6:30:13 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

Sounds like the COUNTRY likes them, since they won elections.


25 posted on 03/04/2013 6:30:16 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Or because the GOP insiders chose them over real conservatives.

Remember, that Ford Beat out Reagan in Kansas City in 1976 and promptly lost.

Then Reagan and George Bush went at in 1980, remember "spookynomics?", so to please the GOP-E Reagan chose GHWB as his running mate the rest is history.

The History of the GOP pushing Moderate after Moderate on us, then choosing VP candidates with more "gravitas" to placate the conservatives. This was most prominent in '08 and '12.

26 posted on 03/04/2013 6:36:19 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion; bibliophilly

Thanks for the replies. It’ll be interesting to see how she positions herself over ther next two or three years, and the same for Ted Cruz.

Someone needs to be ready to head the next Bush off at the pass.


27 posted on 03/04/2013 6:48:59 PM PST by Will88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


Barnie, the author, is a very dishonest writer.

First of all, his categorization of "Nice" is a flaming lie.

That categorization is actually the liberal to moderate wing of the GOP, officially known as RINOs, and if they are running against any true conservative, their isn't a nice bone in their body (See Mitt Romney for the definitive reference on this subject).

Secondly, one of these, to even a casual political observer, does not belong with the rest of these cowards and pretend conservatives: Jeb Bush, Chris Christie and Dr. Ben Carson.

For those of you who are not observant, that would be Dr. Ben Carson whose views line up very closely with Ted Cruz and Governor Sarah Palin. He IS an actual conservative.

Beware of Liberals and the GOP-e who are constantly trying to re-define both conservatism and what it means to be a Republican.
28 posted on 03/04/2013 6:53:07 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: KC_Lion

Yes, last I heard she will be there and she will be speaking.
Sadly so will “Me Too Mitt”!

I wonder who will have more support......
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29 posted on 03/04/2013 7:04:23 PM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would support Sarah Palin in a heartbeat and over anyone else. I am liking what I see in Ted Cruz and I find Dr. Ben Carson interesting, but I still don’t know enough about him.

I will not support Christie or Bush.


30 posted on 03/04/2013 7:32:58 PM PST by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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I don ‘t know about you, but I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying, “We must broaden the base of our party”–when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.

It was a feeling that there was not a sufficient difference now between the parties that kept a majority of the voters away from the polls. When have we ever advocated a closed-door policy? Who has ever been barred from participating?

Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?

Let us show that we stand for fiscal integrity and sound money and above all for an end to deficit spending, with ultimate retirement of the national debt.
Ronald Reagan - CPAC 1975

31 posted on 03/04/2013 7:57:01 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: KC_Lion

Here’s why:

http://www.aesopfables.com/cgi/aesop1.cgi?4&TheScorpionandtheFrog


32 posted on 03/04/2013 8:02:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz is off to a great start but the eGOP is going to bury him. Cruz is the complete opposite of the eGOP as far as I have seen, so if he doesn’t fall in line with the eGOP they will cut off all support.


33 posted on 03/04/2013 8:02:34 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: bibliophilly

Like my tagline, huh? LOL


34 posted on 03/04/2013 8:02:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: re_nortex
... TWO authentic Conservatives ascending to the presidency from the GOP:

Calvin Coolidge
Ronald Reagan

I would submit that both Coolidge and Reagan had strong Libertarian beliefs that strengthened their understanding of the Founders knowledge and teachings, especially the precepts of Natural and Common Law instead of Statutory or Man-made Law. We need more like them.

35 posted on 03/04/2013 8:51:37 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

We do have one, but half the people here like nothing better than to ding her.


36 posted on 03/04/2013 9:09:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
but half the people here like nothing better than to ding her.

No way near half, but a small group of repetitious, agenda driven loud mouths spouting MSM, liberal pundit and liberal comedian talking points on just about every Palin thread.

It's easy to determine their true character by who they parrot almost word for word.

Real liberals or dupes of liberals are one and the same to me at this stage of the game, worthless for the fight ahead.

37 posted on 03/04/2013 9:41:56 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


38 posted on 03/04/2013 10:51:38 PM PST by nutmeg (Who and WHERE are the Benghazi survivors??)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On that I wholeheartedly agree!


39 posted on 03/04/2013 10:54:58 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Until more understand the wisdom of Joe Stalin, “It is those who count the votes that matter!” (or words to that effect), all this emotion about whose ideas will win elections is moot. Those who really count the votes today work for the SEIU, either actually reporting counts, or managing the “automatic” voting equipment.

George Soros spent sixty or so million dollars on his Secretary of State Project. Obama cut his teeth working in Project Vote, an Acorn spin-off. We have no audit trail for voting, nor any way to reconstruct one. Germany and Israel, among a few representative governments, use paper ballots. Germany recognized the fraud and returned to paper. Israel is under some pressure to replace their paper with machines, but too many of their world class automation engineers have shown the frailty of machines. Automated voting, scanners, touch screen machines have virtually all been penetrated, and by grad students, often as term projects.

Our parties have both resisted a return to verifiable voting processes. Today audit trails don't exist, but few care. Many states have paid crony voting equipment vendors to replace last year's equipment, the machines found to have stubbornly flipped votes, and to have been hacked by so-and-so.

Alan West challenged his election, and challenged, and challenged. Every challenge resulted in different results, but he not only faced deep - taxpayer funded - pockets, and crooked judges, but probably realized, if he didn't before, that there were no data to verify the result, even as he uncovered more and more fraud. The best he could have hoped for would be a new election, one which would have cost his constituency millions, and one which the courts would probably have thwarted.

Without trustworthy elections political discussion is masturbation. It may make some feel good, but there can be no results from the effort. Without paper ballots, counted in the the same room, in full view of volunteers from all parties, with the ballots secured and stored unless there is a court ordered recount, elections tell us what the SEIU wants us to hear - and they are very clever propagandists. They want to divide what power centers that could coalesce to resist their complete control of our government. Claims of recalcitrant voting groups serve the purpose. We don't know that Mitt Romney lost the election. We don't know how Jews or Blacks, or Hispanics voted. We don't know how many people voted. We do know that many precincts reported more voters for Obama than there were eligible adults. We know that precincts in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan reported over one hundred percent of registered voters voting when typical participation was seldom over forty percent.

No SEIU employee would dare report the truth. Most of them are unlikely to have any role in the counting, except for absentee ballots, also counted by the SEIU in most states. Numbers are reported from behind an impenetrable wall. Observers are allowed in some states, but their value is low to none, since if there is any paper or electronic trail, it is entirely managed by SEIU operatives, and very few, who are both well-paid, and fully aware of the price for exposing the fraud.

Mitt Romney should know about this enormous problem. Perhaps he assumed that there are checks in the process? Perhaps Mitt presumed, as have so many, that the damage caused by revealing how completely unverifiable our voting processes are would lead to a struggle - possible violence? Perhaps he believes it is a sovereignty issue; states manage their elections through their secretaries of state? Our government is being destroyed, in large part, because elections do not represent the wisdom of voters.

40 posted on 03/04/2013 11:50:58 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding

Your comments are dead on as far as my observations and experience would be evidence. However, a question that must be recognized/dealt with is ‘How and when did this voting become so skewed, even corrupt?’. I believe it had it’s genesis in the times when the USA was living high on the hogs. The populace was so concerned with ‘the good life’ that all matters of responsible governance was given to the government and it’s lackeys, appointed and elected’. The Nation still has this attitude. People are still more interested in seeing that ball players are very well compensated. People are still more interested in seeing that Hollywood buffoons live the life of necessary entertainers and are willing to pay for such. People deem rock stars as societal conscience makers and are more willing to pay for such than to honest, dedicated medical professionals; throw in the administrators as money vultures. Yes, we the people have gone a long way down the path of frivolous use of resources and livelihood. Having gone this far it can only be guessed as to a viable societal recovery.


41 posted on 03/05/2013 12:24:33 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Instead of a big tent, at this stage I would prefer a barn and a time of separating the wheat from the tares.

The republican brand has always been diluted, but now it's just rancid from everyone peeing in the GOP punch bowl.

If CPAC can dump it out and go back to the pure waters of the original spring to refill it, they can save the party and then the country.

Otherwise, it's more Revenge of the Whigs.

42 posted on 03/05/2013 7:18:03 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Spaulding
Mitt Romney should know about this enormous problem. Perhaps he assumed that there are checks in the process?

If Mitt Romney truly wants to serve his fellow Americans, then he, being uniquely qualified by circumstance, should begin a crusade to fix this problem that likely robbed him of his place in history and will destroy the country for his children.

So much is illusion created for opinion to enable the powerful.

43 posted on 03/05/2013 7:27:00 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I see two of my favorite conservatives in that banner. Palin and Paul, nice.

44 posted on 03/05/2013 8:27:28 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

Wish I could go.


45 posted on 03/05/2013 10:29:08 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: GBA
GBA, the problem is enormous because legislators are likely aware that what was done to keep the dangerous Allen West from office can as easily be applied to them. The legislature, the “Peoples Congress”, is almost helpless to act. Congrssman cannot but help noticing how quickly IRS records were scoured to charge Georgia's Nathan Deal when he had the cajones to ask the White House for some written verification of Obama's eligibility. The House Ethics committee brought charges based upon a previously allowed deduction to a relatie of Deal, eight years earlier. They would have bankrupted Deal, who was literally forced to resign, and is now Governor of Georgia.

Other obvious difficulties are that the such a secret operation 1) cannot be explained in sound bites; 2) cannot be conclusively proved because the evidence has been destroyed - that is fundamental to to the crime; 3) pundits who cannot prove anything - if West and the Minnesota senate candidate who lost to the SNL comedian - cannot find data to build a case. Media commentators will only be ridiculed (Alinsky’s 5th rule) if they try.

The only two approaches that come to mind are”: 1) use media to explain a “proof by contradiction” - show that without an audit trail such as the one we used to have based upon locally counted paper ballots, which ended gradually from the late 1960s, voting is irrelevant because it is not verifiable; 2) Organize, perhaps through tea parties, voluntary paper ballots for candidates who convince us that The Constitution must be honored, defended, and protected, and is our foundation. Those who participate are trusting the “Tea Party Precinct” to preserve their identities, but know that without having their votes counted they are losing their freedoms. This would provide an audit for a subset of voters.

Many Democrats share concerns about auditable voting, and might participate. If I didn't like lattes I might suggest a “Latte Party” of liberals who share our belief in representative government. Many liberals are beginning to understand that Sharia law and a bankrupt nation will not help them them promote their favorite causes; to the contrary.

Having some audit trail would provide data to demonstrate the impossibility of reported vote counts in many precincts, and require legal action. The courts, most of whose members are political appointees, are also captive, and can only be brought to account when the stranglehold on representation is loosened, or broken.

A compliant media filled with paid explainers of trends created by those dictating votes must be overcome, and that depends upon the preservation of the 1st Amendment. We see the battle against free speech being waged. We see pundits who know the truth, like Mark Levin, whose Liberty and Tyranny cites Madison explaining why there are not definitions in the Constitution, but who won't dare address the topic, not even in the context of his own writing (pg. 37, Liberty and Tyranny).

We must address truths carefully, and try to act. Our voting system is designed to provide no audit trail. We once had that protection, with ballots secured after being counted; the local count was the legal count. Today there is no local count. The SEIU controls the machines and counts the absentee ballots, except for military ballots which are often not counted at all, thanks to SEIU recalcitrance and our employees' willingness to ignore the law guaranteeing the right of soldiers and DoD overseas employees to vote. Is it any surprise that some of those who are elected have been scorned in their local communities? Is it any surprise that Romney, who drew crowds wherever he spoke while Obama had to hire rock stars to attract audiences sufficient to provide photo ops?

46 posted on 03/05/2013 3:10:18 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: KC_Lion; All
Of late Republicans seem to give up, or worse enter into any discussion with the idea the outcome will be whatever it is the liberals are promoting.

In other words they give up before they begin to consider or argue or the outcomes are even in view.

For SHAME!!!! I agree with Sarah!!!

47 posted on 03/06/2013 9:18:26 AM PST by geologist ("If you love me, keep my commands" .... John 14 :15)
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