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Despite protests, 6 of 7 Democratic gun control bills clear Colo. Senate committees
kdvr.com ^ | March 4, 2013 | Eli Stokols

Posted on 03/04/2013 9:39:34 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

DENVER — Democrats have now passed the first six of seven gun control measures being heard at the Capitol Monday, on a marathon day of Senate hearings that brought hundreds of people to the Capitol — all of them on party-line votes with Democrats in support and Republicans opposed.

Just after 9 p.m., lawmakers on the Senate Judiciary Committee approved a controversial proposal that would make assault weapons manufacturers and retailers liable for crimes.

“No one needs an assault rifle,” said the sponsor, Senate President John Morse, D-Colorado Springs. “Society pays the price when one of these weapons falls into the wrong hands.

“Someone made a profit letting these weapons onto our streets but they don’t’ ever have to absorb the cost for the damage they cause.”

One gun owner, who waited several hours to testify, put it bluntly, telling Morse that his bill “pisses [her] off”.

Meanwhile, a few moments later, the Senate State, Veterans and Military Affairs Committee, meeting one floor above, passed its third and final bill of the day, House Bill 1226, which seeks to ban concealed weapons on college campuses.

During the hearing, lawmakers heard from two women who were raped on college campuses and who argued against the ban, telling lawmakers that they might have been able to fight off their attackers were they carrying concealed weapons.

Sen. Evie Hudak, D-Westminster, told that witness, Amanda Collins, that statistics were “not in [her] favor”.

“Women are more likely to have those guns used against them,” Hudak said at the end of the hearing, clarifying a position that several conservative commentators took issue with as the hearing went on.

Tearing up, Sen. Angela Giron, D-Pueblo, who chairs the committee, acknowledged the difficulty of voting for the proposal after hearing emotional testimony from victims, but said that she’s promised her constituents she would.

High-capacity magazine ban passes

One of the most controversial proposals of the seven, House Bill 1224, which bans high-capacity magazines of 15 rounds or more, got the go-ahead from the Senate Judiciary Committee just before 6 p.m. as groans from the mostly opposed crowd filled the Old Supreme Court Chamber.

The legislation, which was amended so as not to ban shotguns and to exempt law enforcement officers, heads to the full Senate for a vote that’s likely to take place this Friday.

During the nearly four-hour hearing, relatives of those killed in mass shootings spoke passionately in support of the bill; and opponents, including a number of Colorado sheriffs were just as emotional.

The CEO of Magpul Industries, a manufacturer of high-capacity magazines based in Erie, reiterated the company’s threat to leave the state if the bill becomes law.

“Making products that are illegal here in Colorado is counter to our values,” said Richard Fitzpatrick, the founder and CEO of Magpul.

Lawmakers in the House, which has already approved the bill, added an amendment that would allow the company to continue making high-capacity magazines here for sales and use in other states.

And Dudley Brown, the executive director of Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, the state’s most strident gun rights group, was gaveled out of order by the committee chair after threatening to financially support whoever runs against Sen. Jessie Ulibarri, D-Adams County, who voted in favor of the ban.

Background check fees legislation passes

A few minutes earlier, House Bill 1228, which will require gun buyers to pay for their own background checks, cleared the Senate State, Veterans and Military Affairs Committee, which has been meeting simultaneously upstairs, on a 3-2 party-line vote.

The proposal, sponsored by Sen. Rollie Heath, D-Boulder, would make gun buyers pay a $10 or $12 fee for a Colorado Bureau of Investigation instant background check.

The Senate SVMA Committee is now set to begin debate on its final bill of the day, a concealed weapons ban on college campuses.

Meanwhile, the Senate Judiciary Committee is beginning to hear Senate Bill 196, perhaps the most controversial proposal of all, which would make assault weapons manufacturers and retailers liable for crimes.

“No one needs an assault rifle,” said the sponsor, Senate President John Morse. “Society pays the price when one of these weapons falls into the wrong hands.

“Someone made a profit letting these weapons onto our streets but they don’t’ ever have to absorb the cost for the damage they cause.”

Domestic violence gun restriction the first bill to pass Monday

Earlier in the day, legislation that would force convicted domestic violence offenders and anyone subject to a restraining order to relinquish their guns to law enforcement became the first of the seven Democratic gun control bills being heard Monday to get the go-ahead.

The Senate Judiciary Committee, after three hours of emotional and at times wrenching public testimony, passed Senate Bill 197 on a party-line, 3-2 vote and heads now to the Senate Appropriations Committee.

“This bill is more than a ‘feel-good’,” said Sen. Evie Hudak, the bill’s sponsor, in response to arguments from opponents. “I will feel good when fewer people die, when an abuser doesn’t have a gun to kill them.”

S.B. 197 was the first of four gun control measures scheduled to be heard by the five-member Judiciary Committee Monday.

Around 3 p.m., lawmakers upstairs on the Senate State, Veterans and Military Affairs voted to approve House Bill 1229, which will require universal background checks for all gun purchases and transfers, the first of three bills being considered by that panel.

Lawmakers amended the bill so that transfers between family members do not require a background check for the first 72 hours.

That vote was also 3-2 and right down party lines.

Huge crowd of mostly opponents flood the Capitol

Hundreds of people began filling the Capitol’s hallways and hearing rooms early Monday morning, waiting to testify on seven Democratic gun bills that are being heard by two, separate Senate committees.

Gun owners who oppose the various proposals, which include a ban on high-capacity magazines, universal background checks, and a measure to make assault weapons manufacturers and sellers criminally liable for crimes, flooded the Capitol, the sidewalks outside and even the air above, with a circling airplane trailing a sign pleading Gov. John Hickenlooper not to “take our guns.”

And since the hearings got underway, a persistent wail of honking horns and car alarms has been heard inside the hearing rooms, signaling the determination of some opponents, many frustrated at the limited time allowed for official testimony, to make their opposition heard.

Proponents of the bills also launched an intense public relations blitz, starting the day with a press conference featuring several victims of mass shootings: former space shuttle Commander Mark Kelly, the husband of former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords; Patricia Maisich, one of three people who tackled Giffords’ shooter as he was reloading; Tom Mauser, whose son, Daniel, was killed at Columbine; Dave Hoover, whose nephew, A.J. Boik, was one of 12 people killed last July inside Aurora’s Century 16 Theater; and Jane Dougherty, whose sister, Mary Sherlach, was killed at Sandy Hook School last December, along with 20 first-graders.

With seven bills being heard in two separate committees meeting at the same time, Senate Democrats have decided to limit testimony to three hours — 90 minutes per side — on all of the bills, all seven of which are expected to pass Monday on party-line votes.

Democrats hold 3-2 majorities on both the Senate Judiciary Committee, which is hearing four bills in the Old Supreme Court chamber, and the Senate State, Veterans and Miliary Affairs Committee, which is hearing three bills up on the Capitol’s third floor.

Mark Kelly testifies in support of universal background checks

Kelly testified in support of House Bill 1229, which will require background checks on all private gun sales, the first bill heard by the SVMA Committee Monday.

“We don’t come to the debate on gun violence as victims,” he said. “We offer our voices as Americans. We’re moderates. We’re both gun owners. And we take that right and the responsibilities that come with it very seriously.”

Kelly told the story of his wife’s shooting two Januarys ago, and of her difficult recovery; he noted that the alleged shooter, Jared Lee Loughner, bought his weapon after passing a background check, despite his mental health records already having disqualified him for military service and being kicked out of school.

“He should not have passed a background check,” Kelly said, when pressed on that point by Sen. Larry Crowder, R-Alamosa. “The Army knew he was a heavy drug user. His records should have been in the system. He should have failed a background check. But had that happened, he still would have had another option, to go down the street, get online, and buy a weapon.

“The breadth and complexity of gun violence is great. But that is not an excuse for inaction.”

Kelly compared having loopholes for background checks on private sales and, in many other states, at gun shows to having two different security lines at the airport.

“If there’s no security in one of the lines, which one do you think the terrorist will choose?” he said.

Sandy Hook victim’s sister also backs universal background checks

CBI Director Ron Sloan, Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates and Jane Dougherty, whose sister, Mary Sherlach, was the school pyschologist killed at Sandy Hook School last December, also testified in support of universal background checks.

“I hear that some think universal background checks is a burden. I’d like to speak directly to them,” said Dougherty, who lives in Littleton.

“A burden is hearing about a mass shooting in Connecticut, working with your family through the chaos to coinfirm it is your sister’s school; a burden is getting a call from your niece: ‘we lost her.’

“A burden is everything that comes after this horrific news, explaining a mass shooting to your 10 year old son.”

“A background check is not a burden. It will save lives,” Dougherty told the committee. “Maybe even your family’s.”

Dave Hoover, whose nephew A.J. Boik was killed inside the Aurora movie theater last July, also testified in support of universal background checks.

“I’m a Republican,” said Hoover, a detective. “Many men and women I work with want to see a difference made in the state. We want to see our Republican representatives do the right thing.

“It’s time for us to make a difference.”

Dougherty, Hoover and Tom Mauser, whose son, Daniel, was killed at Columbine, also testified later Monday in support of the high-capacity magazine ban.

Opponents begin testimony with murder victim’s daughter

The daughter of a murder victim of Gary Davis, the last man executed by the state of Colorado in 1997, was the first person to testify against universal background checks.

Krista said that she opposes all gun controls and believes that had her mother had a gun to defend herself she might be alive today.

“Background checks won’t stop the next Gary Davis,” Krista said. “They’ll just make my world less safe.”

A group of sheriffs, many from rural counties, spoke against background checks, with one representative, Sheriff John Cooke of Weld County, speaking as a group of supporing sheriffs, all in uniform, stood quietly behind him.

“It seems mostly like Denver metro area sheriffs who are supporting this,” Cooke said. “We know there are a lot of chiefs and line level police officers throughout the state who don’t support these bills.”


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1 posted on 03/04/2013 9:39:45 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well, if people want to be free, they will have to learn to not vote for democrats.

Otherwise, they will not be free.


2 posted on 03/04/2013 9:42:00 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Colorado, the new Calfornia of the rockies. I’d never live there, the liberals can have it.


3 posted on 03/04/2013 9:46:48 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"to exempt law enforcement officers"

There's a real problem right there that hits directly at the intent of the 2nd Amendment.

4 posted on 03/04/2013 9:48:37 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Colorado. The new girley man state.


5 posted on 03/04/2013 9:49:06 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Rocky Mountain Low.


6 posted on 03/04/2013 9:49:48 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Meanwhile, the Senate Judiciary Committee is beginning to hear Senate Bill 196, perhaps the most controversial proposal of all, which would make assault weapons manufacturers and retailers liable for crimes.

Good Lord, leftists and tort lawyers have taken over Colorado..

7 posted on 03/04/2013 9:52:10 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I’m thinkin’ that Brokeback Mtn. is near Denver Colo.


8 posted on 03/04/2013 9:52:38 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Wave goodbye to Magpul, suckers!


9 posted on 03/04/2013 9:54:24 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This is so wretched. Colorado was one of the most "western" of states, and among the most beautiful. I lived there from the 2nd through 6th grade.

It was far from this strange place that sounds more like the last state I bailed out from: California.

How the hell did this happen to Colorado? What western state will be next?

10 posted on 03/04/2013 9:55:56 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: tumblindice

Magpul needs to be north of the border by next week.


11 posted on 03/04/2013 9:56:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Wyoming is going to capsize with all of the influx of former Coloradians to Cheyenne.


12 posted on 03/04/2013 9:59:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: chris37

Next up: Maryland, then Connecticut. Other states will follow suit.

I lived in Colorado. I never thought, in a million years, this would happen. more than 50% of that state requires a gun to walk in (The Rockies). These are good people, and patriots.

The gun confiscation is simply too powerful. These states each have a list as long as my arm on the senate and house floors to tackle this legislative session, and I don’t see their 100% defeat happening.

Scary times, people. Scary.


13 posted on 03/04/2013 10:03:30 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This is the trial run for Obama to seize the e upper hand on all gun control and make it a national law. Colorado was being pushed by Clown and his buffoon Biden.

Enjoy !!!

Ground Zero for Gun Control
By Ross Kaminsky on 2.20.13 @ 6:12AM
Pressured by Obama, Biden & Co., Colorado Democrats prepare to set a liberal example.
14 posted on 03/04/2013 10:07:23 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Paladin2; Celerity

This is purposefully being done to initiate a revolt by law abiding citizens.


15 posted on 03/04/2013 10:09:11 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Paladin2

“I’m thinkin’ that Brokeback Mtn. is near Denver Colo.”

Quite correct - called Boulder, CO.


16 posted on 03/04/2013 10:11:20 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: RC one
More like Agenda 21 Central.
17 posted on 03/04/2013 10:14:36 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Gee, what next? "Nobody needs a high powered sports car! The manufacturer and dealer should be held liable for accidents when one of these falls into the hands of an incompetent driver; it is Society that pays the price...".

I don't ever remember electing ANY politician, any time, any where, to tell me what or my fellow Americans need or don't need.

18 posted on 03/04/2013 10:16:29 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Many of the Dems had small winning margins in the last election. Many of them will be gone in 2014. A few of them will likely receive recall elections before 2014.

Dougherty, Hoover and Tom Mauser, whose son, Daniel, was killed at Columbine, also testified later Monday in support of the high-capacity magazine ban.

None was used at Columbine.

“No one needs an assault rifle,” said the sponsor, Senate President John Morse, D-Colorado Springs. “Society pays the price when one of these weapons falls into the wrong hands.

Morse, your little pet legislation won't stand up to court challenges since there was numerous court precedent from the 70s to 90s that went against the suers of gun manufacturers and gun shop dealers. And beside, DUmmy, your legislation would be in violation of a 2005 Federal law, the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act."

It's no wonder that you have prominently put a severability clause in it hoping something will survive after it gets chewed up.

19 posted on 03/04/2013 10:18:00 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: doorgunner69

40 yr ago, Colo. seemed to be in control of itself (with the possible exception of Pitkin County).


20 posted on 03/04/2013 10:19:52 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How many Colorado manufacturers and citizens will be moving to Texas in the next year?


21 posted on 03/04/2013 10:22:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: sockmonkey

That was approved, also.

“Just after 9 p.m., lawmakers on the same panel approved a controversial proposal that would make assault weapons manufacturers and retailers liable for crimes.”


22 posted on 03/04/2013 10:25:29 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

I’m sure all the votes were 3 to 2 in senate committee split along party lines for all 7 bills.


23 posted on 03/04/2013 10:29:25 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Paladin2; doorgunner69; Tailgunner Joe

I think perhaps you are mistaken. My family lived in CO, just outside Denver, in the early 60s and it was starting to go liberal. Remember John Denver and the song Rocky Mountain High? Well, a lot of hippie types, trendy young people, and rich libs moved to CO in droves. Even back then Colorado State U. was a hotbed of liberal nonsense. It has just gotten worse over the years, maybe even worse than CA, though not as broke yet.


24 posted on 03/04/2013 10:29:40 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: doorgunner69
I'd suggest that 99% of the peeps who can't properly handle firearms are 'rats.

Therefore the solution is to ban 'rats from having firearms and to leave the rest of us alone.

25 posted on 03/04/2013 10:34:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Pining_4_TX

I-70 should have never been put through Vail Pass....


26 posted on 03/04/2013 10:39:08 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tailgunner Joe
A group of sheriffs, many from rural counties, spoke against background checks, with one representative, Sheriff John Cooke of Weld County, speaking as a group of supporing sheriffs, all in uniform, stood quietly behind him.

Wrong. That was Sheriff Maketa from El Paso County who spoke, and he is from the largest county in Colorado.

Wiki:

"El Paso County is the most populous of the 64 counties of the state of Colorado of the United States. The U.S. Census Bureau reported that the county population was 622,263 in 2010, greater than Denver County, which had previously been the most populous county.[1]"

27 posted on 03/04/2013 10:39:19 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Pining_4_TX
You may be right, I was 11 years old when I left Colorado. That was 1959. No idea what happened after that, other than reading about that fake Indian clown Churchill........

I remember being able to buy serious firecrackers (M-80, Cherrybombs) all year long and spending hours blowing the hell out of stuff in the fields around Westminster.

I am sure that sort of stuff these days would bring a SWAT team down on you. Colorado was a very free and easy place for a kid to grow up in back then.

28 posted on 03/04/2013 10:40:52 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So nice to know the Dims still support a Poll tax after all these years.....


29 posted on 03/04/2013 10:47:43 PM PST by GraceG
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To: doorgunner69
"Colorado was a very free and easy place for a kid to grow up in back then. "

New York State too.

America is lost.

30 posted on 03/04/2013 11:05:43 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Many people are quite mistaken about CO in general—especially rural areas of the Range. The truth is that there are striking similarities in most high profile names, politics and social behaviors to those of Germany.


31 posted on 03/04/2013 11:07:45 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: RC one

Sadly, my brother and his two lovely sons live there.

But it’s not that the liberals can have Colorado, they took it, and we can’t have it.

This is being repeated in a number of states including Florida, which is mine, and Texas as well.

This is a strategic tactic, and it is working, and our side has no answer to it or any other tactic used against it, it would seem.


32 posted on 03/04/2013 11:08:12 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I don't own an assault weapon.
Those were tightly restricted by the National Firearms Act of 1934.

I do own a Tyranny Response Rifle.

MOLON LAVE

33 posted on 03/04/2013 11:12:07 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Celerity

Yes, that is right. It is sweeping this country.

Those who vote away then cheer the very loss of their own freedom.

But the 100% defeat of their agenda lies in me.

Because they will have to end me 100% in order to get me to obey even .0001%.

Someone only has as much power over me as I give them, and I give them none.

In fact, all power that I have ever delegated to others in the past, I now take back.

I serve no man.


34 posted on 03/04/2013 11:13:20 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Red Steel

The largest county might be the one with the most square miles, not the greatest number of people living there. Weld is pretty big, although I don’t know without checking, whether it actually is the largest.


35 posted on 03/04/2013 11:19:33 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: chris37

I think the only way we can win is to fight at the state and local level. There are a lot of us in this country too. The fact that there are 30 Republican governors compared to 19 Democrats is testament to that. Similarly, there are 26 state legislatures controlled by Republicans compared to 18 state legislatures controlled by Democrats. Given this, it is quite surprising that we managed to lose as bad as we did in 2012. Regardless, this is where we ar strongest.


36 posted on 03/04/2013 11:22:36 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: chris37

I think the only way we can win is to fight at the state and local level. There are a lot of us in this country too. The fact that there are 30 Republican governors compared to 19 Democrats is testament to that. Similarly, there are 26 state legislatures controlled by Republicans compared to 18 state legislatures controlled by Democrats. Given this, it is quite surprising that we managed to lose as bad as we did in 2012. Regardless, this is where we ar strongest.


37 posted on 03/04/2013 11:22:36 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: coloradan

I meant the most populous. Yes, Weld is large in area.


38 posted on 03/04/2013 11:34:08 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: doorgunner69
After fouling their our state, Californians are flooding Colorado. It's been happening for over ten years and now, I fear it will only get worse. I need to find a new state to live in. Colorado was a beautiful place to live but it's swirling in the bowl now. Anybody have any ideas where to go?
39 posted on 03/04/2013 11:45:08 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would hope that not too many will move. A lot of these people vote ‘rat for their pet leftist agenda, never taking into consideration the ‘rats opposition to the 2A. They can’t seem to figure out that with the ‘rats, you have to eat the whole thing.


40 posted on 03/05/2013 3:37:42 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“No one needs an assault rifle,”

Are we discussing the Bill of Needs or the Bill of Rights?

41 posted on 03/05/2013 3:58:20 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Colorado sucks. I’m glad I moved.


42 posted on 03/05/2013 4:15:17 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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The list of those who would gladly prevent the innocent from defending ourselves has grown, my FRiends:

Dem. Rep. Claire Levy 303-866-2578 claire.levy.house@state.co.us
Dem. Rep. Rhonda Fields 303-866-3911 rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Morgan Carroll 303-866-4879 morgan.carroll.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Evie Hudak 303-866-4840 senatorhudak@gmail.com
Dem. Rep. Beth McCann 303-866-2959 beth.mccann.house@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Lois Tochtrop 303-866-4863 lotochtrop@aol.com
Dem. Rep. Jenise May 303-866-2945 jenise.may.house@state.co.us
Dem. Rep. Lois Court 303-866-2967 lois.court.house@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Rollie Heath 303-866-4872 rollie.heath.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Mary Hodge 303-866-4855 mary.hodge.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. John Morse 303-866-6364 john.morse.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Jessie Ulibarri 303-866-4857 jessie.ulibarri.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Irene Aguilar 303-866-4852 irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen Lucia Guzman 303-866-4862 lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us

Vote them ALL out!


43 posted on 03/05/2013 4:19:14 AM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: SatinDoll
This is purposefully being done to initiate a revolt by law abiding citizens.

I think you're right , but the politicians better know that We The People know were they live when the balloon goes up.

44 posted on 03/05/2013 4:39:59 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This “dog and pony show” clearly backs the statement: “In all cases, with government regulators, any mention of a “need” for a bill or regulation WILL EVENTUALLY PASS. No exceptions.

This rule applies from the lowest form of a local town’s politicians up to the highest U.S. courts. IT NEVER FAILS!

Stop and think. Has anyone ever heard of a “suggestion” that the government (on all levels) needs to do that eventually was not turned into a regulation or law? I certainly have not.

Sometimes it takes years to happen, but you can bet the farm on it that it will happen.


45 posted on 03/05/2013 4:42:43 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: piroque

If we had a supreme court without hand picked toadies of Obama every one of these gun laws would be unconstitutional.


46 posted on 03/05/2013 4:45:06 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Paladin2

I’m thinkin’ that Brokeback Mtn. is near Denver Colo.


No, that’s humpingback Mtn. and hunch your leg pass.


47 posted on 03/05/2013 4:45:06 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH

To All:

The relocated Kalifornia moonbats are getting their way.

Coming to more states near you, and perhaps your own.


48 posted on 03/05/2013 4:46:54 AM PST by Progov
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To: doorgunner69

Montana will be next. Or Wyoming.

Small population states that rich Californians flee to, and take over.


49 posted on 03/05/2013 4:48:08 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: doorgunner69

What happened? Maybe a lot of Californians moved there.

This doesn’t sound like something real western men would do.


50 posted on 03/05/2013 4:54:15 AM PST by Venturer
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