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Car Sales Down in Germany, France, and Italy; The US is Next
Townhall.com ^ | March 5, 2013 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 03/05/2013 9:54:01 AM PST by Kaslin

European bulls lauding the message "the worst is behind" received another dose of reality today. Data shows German car sales plunge as Europe's auto crisis deepens.

New car sales in Germany fell by more than 10 percent year-on-year in February, signaling the crisis for Europe's auto makers is deepening as recession-hit consumers curb spending. New car sales in the region dropped to a 17-year low in 2012.

Speaking ahead of the industry meeting in Geneva, the sales chief of General Motors' (GM.N) Opel brand said car sales for the whole of Europe might fall by as much as 10 percent this year.

Until recently, industry executives have been penciling in a decline of around 3-5 percent for Europe's car market in 2013. The market shrank 7.8 percent last year.

Germany continues to outperform markets such as France and Italy, where car registrations tumbled 12 percent and 17 percent respectively in February. German car sales fell 2.9 percent in 2012, including a 16 percent drop in December.
Gee Who Coulda Thunk?

"Until recently, industry executives have been penciling in a decline of around 3-5 percent."

Flashback, July 09, 2012: Global Collapse In Auto Sales Coming Up.

Employee of German Manufacturer Robert Bosch Responds

Hi Mish,

Love your blog. I've written before.

I work for Robert Bosch in Germany. We make diesel injectors for common rail systems (truck and passenger car).

Our sales forecasts are again down and there is a huge crunch now to save money to try to squeeze out a profit at the end of the year. Sales are down 10% to business plan so they are looking for every dime right now.

The retiring CEO (Franz Fehrenbach...a good man) wishes for a "black 0" at the end of the year. However, I doubt that will happen.

Numerous older people have been given incentives to leave the company before official retirement age.

There are numerous closure days still planned. I would guess we can expect more.

So what you are seeing in the PMI is reality. I do not see or hear similar hints in the rest of the German economy yet......

Regards,

Name Withheld by Mish
One did not have to hear from an employee of Bosch, the world's largest supplier of automotive components, to make that forecast.

All one had to do is think. Italy and Spain were in severe recessions and France was clearly headed there (thanks in part to the nonsensical policies of French president Francois Hollande).

With that backdrop, precisely what countries were German exporters supposed to export to?

Throw Away Your Sunglasses

Don't expect much in the way of US auto exports with Europe in severe recession, and China slowing significantly.

Some forecast increasing US sales based on pent-up auto demand from kids. I see the end of the line as the US is back in recession.

There still are few jobs for kids out of college, the 2% payroll tax restoration will take a bite out of disposable income, retiring boomers don't need new cars, and changing social attitudes towards kids are such that kids do not want the debt their parents had (nor do they have the love affair with cars their parents had).

The jobless recovery is over and the future is dim enough that people can throw away their sunglasses for a lengthy spell.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: automakers; bhoeconomy; globalism

1 posted on 03/05/2013 9:54:07 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Surly if we just release a few more thousand criminaliens, enough money will be freed up for the US Government to buy more Government Motors cars, thus preventing any car downturn. At least that the govt cares about.


2 posted on 03/05/2013 10:00:35 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Kaslin

Except for a few pockets, nobody in the US can afford, nor has the credit rating, to buy or finance a new vehicle. Used vehicles, especially small, fuel efficient ones, have skyrocketed in price. As far as the Bosch employee goes, even with CRD technology, diesel engines in passenger vehicles are off limits as far as the US EPA is concerned. In fact, fuel efficiency is antithema to the EPA agenda.


3 posted on 03/05/2013 10:19:57 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Kaslin

Some stats just came out the other day....the average American middle class family can no longer afford a new car.


4 posted on 03/05/2013 10:27:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: factoryrat
Except for a few pockets, nobody in the US can afford, nor has the credit rating, to buy or finance a new vehicle.

I think Rush Limbaugh mentioned this on his show a few days ago.

5 posted on 03/05/2013 10:27:23 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Kaslin

For the future, Germany will be dealing with an aging population and low birth rate, an influx of immigrants who don’t care to assimilate into traditional culture, an increasing burden of entitlements and foreign aid, and misguided policy that has intentionally increased the cost of energy in the name of “green”.

So this is entirely predictable.


6 posted on 03/05/2013 10:46:26 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Some stats just came out the other day....the average American middle class family can no longer afford a new car.

So, from the Obama perspective, mission accomplished?

7 posted on 03/05/2013 10:49:27 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Kaslin

All the car dealers’ lots in my city are full. Some have put cars in overflow locations. I know it is anecdotal, but I have never seen such an enormous inventory in all the years I’ve lived here.


8 posted on 03/05/2013 10:49:37 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Kaslin
Wait. How can this be? I've been told all day that housing prices are up, the stock market is at record levels, and everything is heading towards the next boom. This article is obviously wrong. Maybe I should tune into NPR or MSNBC for the truth on this?
9 posted on 03/05/2013 11:32:45 AM PST by aegiscg47
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To: aegiscg47
I think the operative word in your post is the word BOOM.
10 posted on 03/05/2013 1:05:54 PM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: Kaslin
Wait a minute...

Aren't the stock markets ratcheting to all time highs? Aren't housing starts the rosiest in years? Isn't the economy recovering and making up lost ground practically every day? Isn't the unemployment rate down? Haven't millions of new jobs been created under the 0bama Recovery? Aren't tax revenues up since the rich are finally starting to pay their fair share?

Now we hear this!!??

I feel like I'm living in an alterate universe where up is down and down is up...

11 posted on 03/05/2013 1:22:49 PM PST by Gritty (Necessity is the plea for every infringement of freedom; it is the argument of tyrants-PM Wm Pitt)
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