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Colorado Democrat Lectures Rape Survivor Amanda Collins About Rape "Statistics"
Townhall.com ^ | March 5, 2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 03/05/2013 4:04:24 PM PST by Kaslin

Colorado's Democratic lawmakers considering more gun control in the state have once again proven they are way in over their heads when it comes to discussing the issue of rape and concealed carry on campus. Three weeks ago, Democratic Rep. Joe Salazar suggested rape whistles and call boxes were sufficient enough for women to prevent rape. Another Democratic lawmaker, Jesse Ulibarri suggested people use ballpoint pens to fight back against a gun wielding madman on a rampage. The University of Colorado-Colorado Springs suggested women vomit and urinate on their rapist. The school also suggested a woman tell a rapist she is menstruating or carrying a disease in order to prevent rape from occurring.

During a recent hearing about legislation in Colorado that would ban concealed carry on college campuses, rape survivor Amanda Collins whose story we documented two weeks ago, testified. As a reminder of her story:

Amanda Collins is a young rape survivor. While in college in 2007, she was raped 50 feet away from the campus police department office at the University of Nevada-Reno and was lucky to get out alive. Her attacker was James Biela, a serial rapist who raped two other women and murdered another. He attacked her at gun point in a gun free zone. At the time of the attack, Collins was in possession of a concealed weapons permit but was not in possession of her firearm due to university policies prohibiting carrying concealed weapons on campus. She was also a second degree black belt at the time and walked to the parking garage with a large group of people.

 "If I had been carrying that night, two other rapes would have been prevented and a young life would have been saved," Collins said. "All of these are just sentiments that give a false sense of security. In my experience I know that the university that I attended, the University of Nevada-Reno, they didn't didn't have any call boxes the night I was attacked. They afterwards installed them but I can tell you that a call box above my head while I was straddled on the parking garage floor being brutally raped wouldn't have helped me one bit. The safe zone? I was in a safe zone and my attacker didn't care," Collins said. "It's known that I could see the police cruisers less than 50 feet away from me, from where I was being attacked but the moment I saw those cruisers, I knew at the same time that no one was coming for me....they were all off duty. The offices had closed. They weren't in their cruisers, there was no one there. A whistle wouldn't have gotten anybody's attention. It was isolated, it was late at night. It's really frustrating that I'm supposed to hand over my own protection to a man but they're not able to guarantee our protection and the comments that this representative made about women not knowing if they're going to be raped or accidentally shooting the wrong person was extremely offensive because he specifically targeted female students. So, is he saying that all women are unable to make sound decisions in the midst of that, that we should go against our God given gut instinct that something was wrong? I knew something was wrong the moment I was grabbed from behind."

Red-tape and university policies led to this happening and empowered Biela while punishing Collins.

"I was legislated into being a victim," Collins said.

Campus Rape Victim Amanda Collins Responds to Colorado State Rep. Joe Salazar

After her testimony, Collins was met with a factually deficient lecture from Democratic State Senator Evi Hudak, who told Collins "statistics aren't on your side" and pointed out that Collins wasn't able to overpower her attacker despite being an expert in martial arts. This is where the "Hudak can't be serious moment" comes in.

"I just want to say statistics are not on your side, even if you had had a gun. You said that you were a martial arts student, I mean person, experience in taekwondo, and yet because this individual was so large and was able to overcome you even with your skills, and chances are that if you had had a gun, then he would have been able to get than from you and possibly use it against you," Hudak said.

Collins responded by saying, "Respectfully Senator, you weren't there...I was there, I know without a doubt in my mind at some point I would have been able to stop my attack by using my firearm. He already had a weapon of his own, he didn't need mine."

Amanda Collins at HB 1226 Hearing

As Dana Loesch points out, Haduk used no statistics to back up her claims. The same claims Haduk had the nerve to make in front of a woman who was brutally raped on her "gun free" college campus by an armed man who went on to rape more women and murder another.

According to the FBI, Americans use firearms in self defense 2.1 million times annually. Cases where firearms are used criminally amount to 579,000. Seventy percent of those cases are carried out by criminal repeat offenders. Barrett and Democrats would seek to punish those protecting themselves rather than the criminals.

There is a war on women, and it’s coming from the left to turn women into victims. Note this (bold my emphasis):

        In the vast majority of those self-defense cases, the citizen will only brandish the gun or fire a warning shot.
        In less than 8% of those self-defense cases will the citizen will even wound his attacker.
        Over 1.9 million of those self-defense cases involve handguns.
        As many as 500,000 of those self-defense cases occur away from home.
        Almost 10% of those self-defense cases are women defending themselves against sexual assault or abuse.

Self defense is a human right and it would be nice if gun-grabbing liberal Democrats, specifically in Colorado, would respect that fact. Out-of-touch legislators like Hudak turn innocent women into rape statistics and as Collins has stated in the past, legislate them into being victims.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; colorado; guncontrol; rape; secondamendment; selfdefense
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1 posted on 03/05/2013 4:04:31 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Back when the white guys were running things, wasn’t rape punishable by death?


2 posted on 03/05/2013 4:17:34 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: Kaslin

amazes me how feminists can keep their big yaps shut when violence against women is against the ‘wrong sort of women.’

or when it’s a democrat libtard berating a woman who was attacked.


3 posted on 03/05/2013 4:17:34 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Kaslin

Typical of so many Democrats this Evi Hudak would like folks to imagine she is an expert in matters regarding rape ~ but one look is all it took to declare her GUILTY of something


4 posted on 03/05/2013 4:18:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

“One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic.” - Joseph Stalin

To liberals, everybody’s a statistic. No bourgeois individualism for them - the collective is all.

But remember folks, it’s the Republicans who are waging the “war on women”.


5 posted on 03/05/2013 4:19:43 PM PST by Argus
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To: Secret Agent Man

That’s because feminism is NOT and NEVER was about helping women..feminism is about promoting the liberal agenda, always was and always will be..groups like NOW don’t give a crap about women unless its a liberal woman, otherwise you won’t hear a peep out of them


6 posted on 03/05/2013 4:22:46 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Kaslin
If the political party labels were reversed, she would have been backed up by indignant advocacy-group members saying "Amanda Collins is not a statistic."

That sentence would be on bumper stickers in every state of the union by tomorrow morning.

Piers Morgan, Rachel Maddow, and their ilk would be racing to be the first to say "in 2014, Congressman Salazar will perhaps become a statistic."

Of course responses such as that seem to be outside the realm of what our side can come up with.

7 posted on 03/05/2013 4:23:58 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

it’s why they never, ever went after teddy ‘waitress sandwich’ kennedy.


8 posted on 03/05/2013 4:26:09 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s still amazing how stupid they are. They show their ignorance and stupidity on a daily, if not hourly, basis and the 51% still believe their BS no matter what.


9 posted on 03/05/2013 4:27:48 PM PST by qaz123
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To: Kaslin

Elected Politicians should never lecture anyone.


10 posted on 03/05/2013 4:28:49 PM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: HIDEK6
Back when the white guys were running things, wasn’t rape punishable by death?

The death penalty for rape is still on the books in Ohio. Unfortunately, it only applies to raping the wife of a military officer.

11 posted on 03/05/2013 4:30:35 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Kaslin

This is one of those moments, people, that you all need to head to facebook and twitter and bash bash bash. Bash the rats over the head with these idiotic statements and dont give an inch.

Remember the Republicans and “legitimate rape” comments that were used during the election? It’s payback time.


12 posted on 03/05/2013 4:37:33 PM PST by drunknsage
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To: Kaslin

Even if it saves one life, Senator, wouldn’t it be worth it?


13 posted on 03/05/2013 4:38:24 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Kaslin

WAIT,,, i thought assaholic politicians giving their wacked out opinions on rape was supposed to be forbidden?


14 posted on 03/05/2013 4:40:42 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Kaslin

Face it, Rats don’t give a damned about rape unless the woman conceives and wants an abortion.


15 posted on 03/05/2013 4:56:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: hadaclueonce; qaz123

You said it


16 posted on 03/05/2013 5:05:48 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

This Coloradan has been thinking long and hard about Texas.


17 posted on 03/05/2013 5:10:46 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Exactly


18 posted on 03/05/2013 5:16:06 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: All
I propose a new FR rule:

Any article by Katie Pavlich should be accompanied by a pic of the lovely Ms. Pavlich.


19 posted on 03/05/2013 5:39:15 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("I can see unhinged liberal media madness from my house!")
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To: Kaslin

I will be writing this idiot to assert she has no such statistics.

She made it up, and thus it’s a lie.

Can you imagine:

“Over half of women armed with a handgun, were successfully raped anyway.”

Do you think we might have noticed that little data point show up, if it were true?


20 posted on 03/05/2013 6:43:40 PM PST by G Larry
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