Skip to comments.Homeland Security Drones Designed to Identify Civilians Carrying Guns
Posted on 03/06/2013 8:35:48 AM PST by 444Flyer
Recently uncovered government documents reveal that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) unmanned Predator B drone fleet has been customize designed to identify civilians carrying guns and track cell phone signals.
"I am very concerned that this technology will be used against law-abiding American firearms owners," said founder and executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation Alan Gottlieb. This could violate Fourth Amendment rights as well as Second Amendment rights."
The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) obtained a partially redacted copy of Homeland Securitys drone requirements through a Freedom of Information Act request; CNET uncovered an unredacted copy.
Homeland Security design requirements specify that its Predator B drones shall be capable of identifying a standing human being at night as likely armed or not and must be equipped with interception systems capable of reading cell phone signals.
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Funny, I recall several years ago, people warning of these military style drones being used against the American public and the so called well informed called them, “Conspiracy nuts”.
Where are they now?
“The military version of the Predator B drone carries 100-pound Hellfire missiles, but the Homeland Securitys Customs and Border Protection (CBP) says the 10 drones in its domestic fleet are unarmed.”
Note that they don’t say that their drones CAN’T be armed, just that they’re not armed for now. How comforting to know that a DHS drone can go from unarmed to armed in the amount of time it takes to hang a missile on the rails.
Now that this has been published the perp in question will know to just slip his cell phone into the purse of some 82 year old woman and watch the fun ensue.
Bullets, tanks, drones, for the Americans. Freedom for the illegals.
The only upside to this one is watching high technology fail miserably.
Part of our military superiority comes from not disclosing the stuff we have at our disposal. Using such hardware on Americans is undermining the tools of military superiority around the globe.
So if the government is after you and you fedex your cell phone to yourself, will the drone shoot down a Fedex plane?
Relevant to your article.
BTW, ya just know they're likely using face recognition software as well as other tracking/identification technology. In fact, they're probable are using bio/heat signature software, which I would assume has been developed or will be.
They have lots of your tax dollars to play with.
***Homeland Security design requirements specify that its Predator B drones shall be capable of identifying a standing human being at night as likely armed or not...***
‘LIKELY’ armed or not. Nice.
Bad as this already is, they won’t even be sure the Americans they kill are even armed or not. Suppose a 3-yr old carries his/her toy nerf gun home from grandma’s house? Too bad, sucka...
Looks like those little hand held laser pointers will come in handy after all.
You got it...
Where are all those who pointed fingers and called others “Black helicopter tin foil hat wearing conspiracy wackos”.
Those folks seem as scarce as public pay phones nowadays.
CLUE: this administration operates as though there is no law that constrains what it does, therefore the US citizens have no rights. Don't believe me, just observe what the Congress has done each time obozo, Holder and the dyke have broken laws. The American citizens who follow this and the previous administration's laws that are contrary to our constitution are doing nothing short of placing the government's noose around their own necks.
If this were a republican administration...
I don't believe that even the Obama/Holder/Napolitano type of jackbooted thug would authorize a drone strike against an American citizen, simply for being "likely armed." But such a report by a recon drone would more likely be used as probable cause for more sophisticated surveillance ... or even a "stop and frisk" by two or more police officers, who are far more heavily armed than the "likely armed" individual.
I could be mistaken, but I believe it was a Republican administration and their policies who made this possible. Bush comes to mind.
You may as well blame the Wright Brothers.
They made it possible.
How will it know a civilian from a non-civilian?
Bull cheet...That’s a Tokyo Rose comment..
It was George W. Bush who established the Office of Homeland Security....
Time to reboot yourself!
Always take the battery out of cellphone when not in use.
“or even a “stop and frisk” by two or more police officers, who are far more heavily armed than the “likely armed” individual.”
With the attacks on our Rights becoming, if not more common, then more open, I would invite the usual suspects to this thread to discuss the use of drones to spy on citizens, and also the “stop and frisk” which several members here think is just a dandy crime fighting tool.
The first victim of one of these drones will probably be carrying an umbrella.
And to think, fifty years ago Emanuel Cellar wanted a radar designed so police could drive around, zap people and see if they were carrying a gun.
Wonder if it can distinguish between a gun, pocket knife, belt buckle or pocket of change.
I would hate to get blasted because I had a roll of quarters for the toll roads.
They are saying that, sure, these drones exists but if you think its a bad thing you are a kooky conspiracy theorist. They then repeat the refrain of tyrants and the creed of slaves, "If you've done nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide."
“If you’ve done nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide.”
Yea, that pops up all the time on the occasional thread about DUI roadblocks. Maybe they’ll go back to just calling them “license checks” if somebody raises too much of a stink?
“It was George W. Bush who established the Office of Homeland Security....”
Wow, I can hardly believe it took all of 21 posts to “blame Bush”. I guess he authorized the drones too?
Take the battery out or keep them in one of those foil potato chip bags until you plan to use it.
Coming soon: the Drone Jammer app.
Hadn't thought of that - thanks for your suggestion. If tyranny sets in worse than it is, use a potato chip bag as home for cell phone. Note to self: Store some “used” potato chip smaller bags.
Whoever comes up with the technology and products to foil the police state’s technology, will get rich quick. The market will be HUGE.
Someone will probably develop a nice looking mobile case that effectively blocks gps and rf until use.
I’m thinking that up here in the Pacific North West, a person with an umbrella to avoid rain from the sky, a steel lunch box for what they carry around to (ah) eat(!), and a laser pointer for presentations ought to be pretty well situated.
And when the first drone shoots up an innocent person, who gets put in jail or sued?
Just like the “accidental” break ins by police where they shoot up the first person they see with a TV remote.
I wonder if someone could take one down with a 30-06 with a 4x16x40?
“It was a dark and rainy night...”
Lemme help ya out here.
Did ya happen to notice the title of this Mr. Saleman?
Homeland Security Drones Designed to Identify Civilians Carrying Guns
Was it not George W. Bush who established yet another new massive bloated intrusive government enforcement agency?
Your point is noted. But I was referring to the lack of media engagement. Situation normal for the MSM.