Skip to comments.Peres in EU: Still Holding Out Hope for Peace
Posted on 03/06/2013 4:41:45 PM PST by Eleutheria5
President Shimon Peres held out hopes Wednesday of seeing the Middle East draw inspiration from the European Union by one day turning a region long at war into one at peace.
Praising Europe for overcoming 1,000 years of conflict in six short decades as he visited EU headquarters, Peres said, "You have the gift of a united hope even if you have a divided economic situation."
"I hope the time will come when the Middle East will become a peaceful united region like you," he added.
Peres, on an eight-day tour to Brussels, Paris and Strasbourg, said he believed there was "a new chance" of resuming peace talks with the Palestinian Authority now that the elections in both Israel and the United States had taken place.
"I don't think the opportunity to make peace is over," he said. "We weren't born to become a master nation, we weren't born to govern other people."
"We will resume the negotiations. Neither us nor the Palestinians have any other choice," said Peres.
Peres stressed the main obstacle to resuming peace talks was not the quarrel over the Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria but was about "terror."
"Take the terror out of Gaza", he said, accusing Hamas of converting the area into a base for shooting missiles into Israel.
He called for both Hamas and Lebanon's Hizbullah terrorist group to be condemned by the international community.
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I woke up this morning and undid my restraining straps, having tongued my meds the night before, so I could come here and say all this to you. Hey. Where's my applause? Where is everyone?
Good God...what *is* that guy smoking?
Peres keeps going to Israel’s enemies for help. This will not end well.
Peres you moron - the Antichrist is going to bring you this “peace” and the onslaught of Hell on Earth.
Hope for Peace Perez, it has brought you money, fame and power. Too bad it also brought a lot of death and destruction on Israel. But hey, at what price fame I am sure it was worth it to you. I was thinking that the Jews in Austwitz hoped for peace too. By the way how did the negotiations go there? Did the ones that played along last longer than the ones that fought being herded into the camps?
After all, the Palestinians goals are the same as Hitlers.
The millions of dollars that Israel sends to the Jihadi to get along because of your peace deals, do you get it back in missiles, or do you get ever more hopeful?
Seems as good a thread as any for a blast from the recent past
Road Map to Armageddon
Jan 1 2004
The Quartet of Bush, Putin, UN, and EU is determined, through a division of land, to bring a just and lasting peace into the Middle East between Israel and her neighbors. Assuming they are sincere and not just working for their own interests, their mental state must be on a par with those who gave the Nobel Peace Prize to Yasser Arafat, a mass murderer, habitual liar, and the worlds leading terrorist, who has done more than anyone to destroy world peace. How thankful the West should be that Al Gore (who repeatedly, as vice president, warmly received Arafat into the White House) is not there now as president!
In fact, Muhammad, whose word cannot be changed, imposed upon every Muslim in every age the duty of exterminating all Jews. Only then can the Last Day (the climax of Islam) arrive. That fact makes peace between Israel and Muslims impossibleever. Any apparent peace agreements signed by Muslim leaders are not worth the ink in their signatures! In the ten years prior to the signing of the Oslo Accords, 211 Israelis were killed by terrorists; in the ten years since, about 1,200 have been killed and 5,000 wounded.
No Arab/Muslim political or religious leader can contradict Islams founding prophet. Thus to continue to pursue a negotiated peace in the Middle East is the height of folly! Yet Western political and religious leaders continue to hold out that vain hope and to force concessions upon Israel that pave the road to her destruction!
Modern Israel occupies a relatively small piece of land. Arabs possess 700 times as much, with vast amounts of oil and minerals. Why are they determined to possess tiny Israel too? Islam says it belongs to them!
A sovereign Jewish state proves that Muhammad was a false prophet, and that Allah is not God. Muslims must destroy Israel!
Both the Bible and Quran agree that 4,000 years ago God gave the Promised Land to Abraham and his Israeli descendants. Yet, the Arabs claim ownership through Ishmael, Abrahams first son. But God declared that not Ishmael, but Isaac, who would be born to Sarah, was the son and heir He had promised (Gen:17:15-21).
Like his father, Isaac also had two sons, Esau and Jacob; and again the Lord rejected the firstborn and gave the inheritance to the secondso the inheritance flows from Abraham to Isaac and on to Jacob, whose name God changed to Israel. Twelve times Yahweh calls Himself the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, declaring, this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial to all generations (Ex 3:15). More than 200 times, from Exodus:5:1 to Luke:1:68, Yahweh is called the God of Israel.
Muslims claim that the Bible was corrupted by later revisions. However, the Bibles thousands of manuscripts, historical and prophetic accuracy, and the intricate integration of themes from Genesis to Revelation (none of which the Quran can boast!) reduce such a claim to nonsense. Furthermore, the Quran itself supports what the Bible says concerning Israels claim to the Promised Land:
We made a covenant of old with the Children of Israel (Surah 5:70); We brought the children of Israel across the [Red] sea, and Pharaoh with his hosts pursued them... (10:91). [B]ut we drowned him and those with him all together. And we said unto the Children of Israel...dwell in the land [and] hereafter...we shall bring you...out of various nations (17:103, 104); [W]e delivered the children of Israel... from Pharaoh....We chose them, purposely, above all creatures (44:30-32); favored them above all peoples (45:16); Remember Allahs favor to you...He...gave you what he gave no other of his creatures. O my people, go into the Holy Land which Allah hath ordained for you (95:20, 21); etc.
The territory God gave to Abram (later renamed Abraham by God) and to his descend-ants was not Palestine, but Canaan: Into the land of Canaan they came (Gen:12:5, 6). There were no Palestinians from whom those who take that name today claim to be descended: the Canaanite and Perizzite dwelled then in the land (13:7).
Abram remained there the rest of his life: ...Abram dwelled in the land of Canaan (13:12). God told him, For all the land...to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever (13:15); ...all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession (Gen:17:8).
Abram settled in Hebron in Canaan and built there an altar to the LORD [Yahweh] (13:18)not to Allah. Ten years later, Ishmael (the product of Abrahams and Sarahs unbelief) was born to him through Sarahs maid, Hagar. Fourteen years later, when Abraham was 100 years old and Sarah 90, Isaac was born in Hebron to Abraham by his wife Sarah, exactly as God had promised.
Thirty-seven years later, at the age of 127, Sarah died. Abraham was still living in Hebron, having been there more than 70 years. To bury Sarah, he bought the cave of Machpelah from Ephron the Hittite (23:1-20).
Thirty-eight years later, at the age of 175, Abraham died. Isaac and Ishmael buried him in Machpelah next to Sarah. Isaac lived in Hebron 110 more years. Isaac, Rebekah, Jacob, and Leah were also buried in the cave of Machpelah.
Abraham had entered Canaan 400 years after the flood and 300 years after the Tower of Babel. It was sparsely settled, the land was his for the taking, and he, Isaac, Jacob, and their families, lived there more than 300 years before temporarily moving to Egypt to escape a famine. There, for 400 years they were slaves, just as God had said, until the Canaanites became so wicked that He was forced to destroy them. God used Israel for that task, giving them Canaan as an everlasting heritage (Gn 15:13-16), as He had promised.
God referred to Isaac as Abrahams only son (Gen:22:2). Thus Ishmael was not buried in Machpelah, but where he had settled far away, having died in the presence of all his brethren (Gen:25:17, 18). No Arab or Muslim was ever buried in Machpelah.
Arabs can’t claim a pure descent from Ishmael. Ishmaelites intermarried with Midianites (Judg 8:5,12,22,24), Edomites (Gen:28:9), and Hittites (26:34; 36:1-4). In contrast, during 400 years as slaves in Egypt, the Israelites became an identifiable ethnic people who were led en masse into Canaan. We know who they are today.
Denying Israels God-given heritage, Yitzak Rabin, who had secretly promised Clinton he would give up the Golan, declared, The Bible is not a geography book. Shortly thereafter, he was assassinated, preventing him from giving to Syria the most strategically vital part of Israel.
It was not Arabs but Hebrews who settled in ancient Hebron and all of Canaan, creating Israel, whose kings ruled from Jerusalem over an empire stretching from the Sinai to the Euphrates. Around 600 B.C. they were conquered by the Babylonians and scattered to many nations.
Chased out of their land under Gods judgment in the Babylonian dispersion, and later twice by the Romans, numbers of Jews always returned. This despised people continued living in Israel under the oppressive heel of various occupying foreign invaders for another 2,500 years. On May 14, 1948, Israel declared itself an independent nation once again. The Jews once again possessed their own land, as God had promisedbut only that small fraction of it that had been allotted by the UN partition on November 29, 1947.
In contrast, the Arabs never lived in Canaan, but settled in the Arabian Peninsula. Not until the seventh century A.D., through the Islamic invasions, did Arabs come in any significant numbers into the land of Israel, which, in A.D. 135, the Romans had angrily renamed Syria-Palestina, after Israels chief enemy, the Philistines.
The so-called Palestinians of today are Arabs whose ancestors came from Arabia. They are a Semitic people, with no relationship either to the Canaanites or the Philistines, who were not Semites. It is a blatant lie that todays Palestinians (who at the same time claim descent from Ishmael) are descended from the original inhabitants of the land of Canaan, which God promised to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and their heirs.
David was first crowned king in Hebron and ruled there seven years before moving his throne to Jerusalem. This ancient city has no significance to Arabs/Muslims. Yet they have built a mosque at Machpelah, have forbidden access to Jews, and, at various times in history, have massacred Jews living there. Today Muslims are attempting to force out the few remaining Jews. They claim all of Palestine and state that Israelis are occupying land that belongs to them! And this fraud is the foundation for a so-called road map to peace!
President Bush, as a Christian, ought to tremble at Gods solemn warning that He will destroy all who divide His land (Joel:3:2). Yes, His land: the land shall not be sold [or traded] for ever: for the land is mine (Lev:25:23)! Quartet, take heed: you are defying the God of Israel and will not escape unpunished!
Those who make peace by taking land from Israel, which God gave her, will be destroyed: [A]ll that burden themselves with it [Jerusalem] shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it (Zec:12:3).
On September 13, 1993, under the triumphant gaze of a smiling President Clinton, Arafat signed, with Yitzak Rabin, the Oslo Accords on the White House lawn. The ink was scarcely dry when Arafat began publicly apologizing in Arabic to Muslims around the world. In fear for his life (remember Anwar Sadats murder by fellow Muslims for making peace with Israel), Arafat pleaded that he was only following the example of Muhammad and the Islamic law he established.
In A.D. 628, Muhammad led a few of his followers (recent converts to the new religion of Islam) from Medina back to Mecca, hoping to join thousands of pagan Arabs in the hajj . This annual pilgrimage to the Kaaba (Islam, incredibly, claims it was built by Abraham and Ishmael!), with its elaborate ceremonies, had been practiced by pagan Arab tribes for centuries before Muhammad was born. He was turned back by the Meccans, but both parties signed a 10-year ceasefire known as the Treaty of Hubaybiya, as part of which Muhammad relinquished his claim to being the prophet of Allah.
This treaty allowed Muhammad the next year (A.D. 629) to lead a group of Muslims in the hajj . They joined thousands of infidel Arabs in the same pagan ceremonies that their ancestors had practiced for centuries (See TBC Q&A July ‘03 for the rituals).
In 630, Muhammad broke the ceasefire on a pretext and took over Mecca. At first, he allowed pagan Arabs to continue in the hajj , mingling with the new Muslims in the ancient rituals. Then he gave the pagans four months in which to convert to Islam or be killed. Thereafter, no non-Muslims were allowed into Mecca, as is true today.
So it is with Ramadan, which President Bush (like previous U.S. presidents) and other western leaders naively honor as a holy Muslim holiday. Beginning with the first sighting of the new moon in the ninth month of the Muslim lunar calendar, Ramadan was celebrated by pagan Arabs in honor of Allah, the moon god, for centuries before Islam. To the hajj and Ramadan, Muhammad added the horror of jihad and commanded Muslims to take over the world. That belief has cost millions of innocent lives and drives terrorism today.
Those promoting the Road Map to Peace are following a history of good intentions on the part of Israel and the West, which invariably have been betrayed by the Arabs/Muslims and have steadily made Israels position more untenable. American presidents, one after another, have cajoled Israel into compromise after compromise with Arab/Muslim leaders that could only have been uproarious jokes as far as the latter were concerned. Always, the good intentions of Israel and the West have led only to their further humiliation.
Pursuing their impossible peace initiatives, world leaders defy the God of Israel and of the Bible. As the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing [and] the kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed (Ps:2:1-2
), those with ears to hear (Deut 29:4; Eze:12:2; Mat:11:15; 13:9, etc.) detect the terrifying sound of laughter: He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision (Ps:2:4).
We are in the late stages of the awesome fulfillment of Bible prophecy, behind which lies the omnipotent hand of God himself: I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem... (Zec:12:2, 3).
That remarkable prophesy is being fulfilled today. Never before in history have all those surrounding Israel been united to destroy her. This significant development in history and Bible prophecy has come about through the rise of Islam.
Bush wants a democratic, viable Palestinian state living in peace with Israel, but no democracy exists, or can exist , in a Muslim society. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. Bush is trying to create democracy in Afghanistan and Iraq. If that could happen, it would shake the entire Muslim world. Islam cannot survive in freedom. No wonder there is such fanatical opposition from Muslims worldwide, even for the capture of that sadistic mass torturer and murderer, Saddam Hussein. Muslims hold 80 percent of the worlds political prisoners.
Americas precipitous withdrawal from Lebanon 20 years ago, fleeing from known Syrian/Iranian-sponsored terrorists instead of pursuing them, encouraged the terrorism rampant today worldwide. Can Bush really, with terrorist partners, stand up against the evil of terrorism? When will he admit that it is endemic to Islam? Will the strategic (politically correct?) time ever come for telling the truth? It remains to be seen whether the U.S.can eliminate terrorism, when our State Department secretly opposes Israel and favors Arabs.
The Bible foretells a false peace, by which Antichrist will destroy many (Dan:8:24,25). Tragically, Israel will be deceived, tear down the security wall now being built, and drop its guard, opening the door to the time of Jacobs trouble (Jer:30:7) and Armageddon (Eze:38:11,12,14,16). Two-thirds of all Jews worldwide will be killed (Zec:13:8,9). Those who survive will believe in Christ and be saved when He rescues them and they recognize the crucified, resurrected Lord as their Messiah and God (Zec:12:10; Mat:24:13; Rom:11:25,26).
We must not abandon Afghanistan or Iraq. I receive letters from missionaries there who say, The minute the American and British troops pull out, we are dead! It is time for Christians to pray as never beforeand to do all they can to bring the gospel of Jesus Christ to both Muslims and Jews. TBC
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When I'm Peres' age, I hope I'll still hold out hope of winning the lottery. Not that I'll waste money on a ticket.
I hope for peace, too. But I also know that so long as peace is in the hands of the likes of Peres, Obama, Bonkey Moon, Lady Sharia, et al., it must be strenuously resisted, because that is more properly called piece.
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