Skip to comments.Shipyard workers' families brace for furloughs, smaller paychecks
Posted on 03/06/2013 4:46:52 PM PST by SkyPilot
KENNEBUNK, Maine Politicians may say the looming federal budget cuts won't hurt very much, but Becky Burritt isn't buying it.
The Kennebunk mother whose husband, Justin, is a civilian employee at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, knows the mandatory furlough days will mean cutting back on everything from eating out to kids' activities.
We're cutting back, not going out there will be more home-cooked meals, the mother of two said as her family faces a loss of nearly $400 and all overtime per biweekly pay period.
Federal civilian workers at the shipyard and throughout the United States will be forced to take 22 days off without pay between April and the end of the federal fiscal year on Sept. 30. The furloughs are part of automatic budget cuts mandated the Budget Control Act of 2011 and known as sequestration. For Burritt, that's just a long name meaning her family will have less. She said the cuts will reduce her family's income by 20 percent and have forced them to think about what's important to them.
We'll definitely have to dip into savings, she said. We're changing our auto insurance to save money and dropping cable. I've asked myself, 'Do I really need cable?'
The Burritts are just one of hundreds of York County families that depend on income from Portsmouth Naval Shipyard all of whom are facing six months of cutbacks in salary and loss of overtime due to government inaction.
York County is home to the largest percentage of shipyard workers, with Sanford having the highest number of workers, at more than 400, according to the nonprofit Seacoast Shipyard Association. But with workers throughout the county including nearly 200 in the Kennebunks, Wells, Ogunquit and Arundel the pain is likely to be felt throughout.
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Maybe the entire country should just give up, get ObamaPhones, and go on Food Stamps.
Count down to someone cheering on the misery of these blue collar workers whose labor supports the Dept of Defense ......5....4....3...2....
Must be nice to be able to eat out...
I bet they have heat too. She shouldn’t have that.
The bottom line is that there were methods....much better methods of handling the budget cutting process. The “Professor” simply doesn’t grasp those or want a simplified process.
So a bunch of folks are going to survive with a eighty-percent paycheck for five months. Figure no summer vacations, no travel, no new purchases, no substantial date money for junior, no eat-outs, no contributions to their 401k, and just a very long summer. Areas like DC will be very hard hit because there is no alternate industry.
The problem that will face the administration....is that the end of September is not really that far off. You can’t go and repeat your scripted lines after 1 Oct rolls around. Brand new script, now drama, new disaster, new season. It’s kinda like the shows Lost, Gunsmoke, Who Shot JR, and Adam-12 rolled into one big drama.
I’ve already had to make the same cuts to my personal finances. It’s not that I don’t care about these blue collar workers, but we all need to stand firm.
We are either a bit uncomfortable now, or a lot uncomfortable later. Complaining about it to the media emboldens our oppressors.
I’d not give This administration the the satisfaction of hearing my woes. No, iI do not cheer blue collar misery, but I dislike the fact they must complain so loudly.
Average salary at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard is $60,000 and most are union jobs. No tears shed here!
Not cheering in their misery, but...things are tough all over. If these workers have to give up some things, so be it. I’m on disability — a lot less money coming in. I made the sacrifices and will continue to do so. I’m sure these workers can too.
Instead of crying, maybe these workers should go back to Obama and demand that he give up his lavish expenditures and stop sending billions to nations that hate us. Maybe enough money can be found to avoid the furloughs.
“While the father says he understands that mistakes can happen and will still shop at Walmart, he has contacted a lawyer and is considering legal action.”
I’m for even bigger cuts.
The point is that this is going to piss off what used to be low information voters only a month or two ago.
Wow. Obama is finally pissing off the right people!
Walmart? You lost me there.
Dude, your sniveling is unbecoming. Government must be cut back. You can cherry-pick victims all day long.
lol 2 threads at once
Welcome to what those of us in the private sector have had to endure for the last four years.
2/3rds of mandatory spending is not even touched with the Sequester, and that is the primary cause of our debt.
I guarantee you that when the next world hotspot explodes (and believe me, it will) the American people will be screaming: "Come on! Somebody do something!"
Sorry Mr. and Mrs. Medicare, we spent it all on you.
By the way, love your screen name.
And yet........ constant whining about spending zillions to keep those essentially dead alive for 30 more days
Attempting to give a damn.....
Nope. Ain’t happening.
I know! She is getting her’s, right! I hope she loses her home too.
I am on my third job in five years. But the difference between you and me is that I see that punishing hard working people who build ships for our military is not a good thing.
Thank you also for understanding my response. In my estimation, no pain no gain. If you're fat and refuse to stop eating or start exercising , don't complain about being fat.
To be honest, my first thought was Shipyard = Union. I've known union workers in my time. Braggarts about their high pay, how they could not get fired, etc. not a great work ethic, IMO.
But, when forced to join a union, when expecting the job to be there because it has always been there, it can be a shock. There are good people who are union members.
Perhaps the cuts they must make sound trivial to me, but who the hell am I? So, thanks for putting that out front before I replied. You made me think about the human element.
And isn't it the human element that this administration seeks to destroy? Creating division even among those who would otherwise be agreeable to one another?
I hope you can glean from this rambling on, what I'm really trying to say..
Union ship builders, who without doubt voted 95% for Obama, and you want me to feel sorry for them? Sorry, ain’t happening. I hope they end up living in their cars.
Charge admission for White House tours and all of our problems are solved.
Yep. Just did a little checking. Kennebunk ME went for Obama 3-2.
‘F the lot of them.
“These are working people, who pay their taxes and don’t take handouts.”
So were the rest of us who weren’t working for the government back in 2007 and go our ‘haircut” then. Personally, it’s time the government workers ( all of them without exception) had to tighten their belts. They have had a free ride for more than five years while the rest of us were already having to make these kinds of sacrifices. There are far too many of them, and the “government herd” needs a substantial “thinning.” They are just like their “private sector union buddies,” in that somehow they think this should all pass by them without any interruption in their sometimes worthless lives.
But I also understand that the strategy of Zer0's administration is to cut what is worthwhile first. Much like the jag-offs in bankrupt cities who close swimming pools and police stations in the summer to blackmail the taxpayers even while they and their cronies live high and wild off the fat of the land.
It isn't going to change until (1)congress takes charge, (2)Zer0 and his ilk get voted out of office, or (3)this country suffers so bad that the credibility and support for Zer0 and his ilk melt away.
I'm not optimistic about (1) given the capons we have in the GOP leadership. Neither can I see (2) happening as long as the enemedia can lead around the low information voter by the nose.
That leaves only (3). It is, by far, the least desirable option. But is there any other?
Maybe you should.
My average take home salary will decrease $4800 a year and I only make $21000 a year. I fail to see what's fair about that.
Many folks fail to realize that most federal workers are not "fat cats."
See Post 26
I agree, Lurker. My company put us on a 32-hr work week for nearly a year in 2008-09, when most of us were getting about 50+ hours/wk (10+ hrs/wk OT).
The boss said the alternative was to lay-off 25% of the employees and he’d be going after higher paid hourly first, as being a more efficient cut. It sucked, but the alternative was going to be suckier. Nobody got laid off.
Meanwhile, attrition has reduced headcount appreciably, so we currently right-sized.
Try the same thing is a bloated gubmint. I’m sick and tired of being made to feel guilty because our elected representatives aren’t doing their jobs. It’s all baloney.
Everybody I know, being effected by this, is looking at zeroing out their savings and facing $3k-$6k of debt just to make basic living payments (rent, min food, utilities, and commuting costs,...nothing for clothing, car repairs, or medical exp).
Our larger fear is that since nobody thinks this is such a big deal, that Obama will then continue the lack of budget into FY14, followed by random RIFs.
We all know the contractors still face new contracts and the new expenses developed over the past 20 years aren’t being reduced to the 80s levels, but instead, we’ve already been cut in half to 2/3, had salary freezes when utilities and rent have increased and gas costs have doubled. Still there isn’t any intuitive public sense of outrage except in areas where there should be no outrage.
Lots of people are either retiring, leaving service, looking to move out of the country, or are simply ignoring it thinking it isn’t really going to happen.
“But the difference between you and me is that I see that punishing hard working people who build ships for our military is not a good thing. “
Huh? Again, like another poster pointed out, you seem to want to give these people a pass because of what they do. As far as “punishing” goes, it could be a whole lot worse. I mean “no more overtime” is punishment? From the picture of this woman in the article, she could stand to miss a few meals. Maybe FUBO can send Mooche up to help her!
So you’re gonna hope that the “2” get hurt because the “3” voted for O? While I agree that there is waste in the federal government, what you’re advocating is vile and hateful.
I don’t know what happened with my post...
Lost myself as well...
There's little empathy here for federal employees.
“While I agree that there is waste in the federal government, what youre advocating is vile and hateful.”
No it isn’t! Let’s face the fact that the government has become so large that it, in and of itself can elect a president. I know for a fact that this is already the case here in California. Government employees ( and that includes government contractor employees too) are probably responsible for Obama being re-elected. So I’m with Lurker, the sooner these people get a serious “taste” of their own medicine, the sooner we will have a fighting chance to save our country. These people didn’t give a $hit about the rest of us. They continued to vote their own self-interest. I hope we have hoards of them in the streets out of work, and the sooner the better for us all!
At best Federal workers are like ticks on a dog. As long as there aren’t too many, no big deal for the dog. The problem is that the ticks are so numerous they are killing the host. And that host is us.
I no longer care which Federal ticks are getting squashed.
Since these people are working on my dime, I am for it. Many of us in the private sector have been doing this for 5 years now. “Welcome to the party pal”
Still bemoaning self-inflicted wounds?
Pretty little graph you put out there.
Lumping in Medicare and Medicaid increases was... interesting.
The Feds are promising all fifty states multi-billions of new dollars to increase every states Medicaid numbers,(before Obamacare kicks in) but somehow THAT is all the fault of currently or soon to be retired, taxpaying Medicare recipients and/or Republicans.
Frankly, I would very much prefer to RIF the Feds by 10% across the board, starting at the top salaried echelons of appointed managerial tiers.
That’s not going to happen though, right?
Because all the poor union government workers need all those useless redundent managers to protect their own formerly secure “jobs”.
You have obviously picked a “side”.
I eagerly await your OPUS, and am only curious if it was be before or after you donned the brown shirt.
From all across AMERICA, I think it should be in UNISON, the CRY of all people for the President to take a wage cut. LEAD, show us how to cut back, travel less, buy Michelles clothes at Goodwill, like the rest of us do. PLEASE. Let’s hear it from all over. CUT the pay of the CEO’s of American politics. They’ve done a HORRIBLE job and need a pay cut.
I was unaware that 1% could “loom”.
So which Entitlement is your sacred cow? Pardon me, I was confused by the post.
This helps too:
Probably a lot of blue collar Obama Voters in that crowd. No pity from me as Obama tries to tell them their demise is Repubican caused and they are stupid enough to believe it.
If I may, that is pure BS. There are no Federal Employees, they are in fact Taxpayer Supported Employees. That includes Obama and his Merry Gang of Stalinists.
People here see a bloated Government that wastes Tax Dollars, the same dollars that the hard working American People sweat and toil to earn day in and day out.
If a Federal Job is necessary, no problem from any FReeper I know of. It's the wasteful spending promoted by the Democrats and the Federal Labor Unions (that even FDR warned against) that makes Conservatives more than a bit cranky.
Don't take the Freeper criticisms of the Federal Leviathan personally. If you are here there is little doubt that you understand the concept of earning your Salary and giving us, your Employers, an honest day's work for an honest day's wage. And yes, I know you are a Taxpayer as well.
We dropped cable 8 years ago. Why hand somebody $1500 a year for little of nothing?
We have 5 or 6 shipyards and the Chinese have how many HUNDRED? Scares me.
You are wrong on two fronts.
These people didnt give a $hit about the rest of us.
Excuse me?!??!? I don't care for my fellow man. HOW DARE YOU MAKE SUCH AN ACCUSATION! Didn't you even bother to read what I posted about my wages and how much this will hurt me personally? I am part of "the rest of us."
You make a blanket statement about the mindset of federal employees that is wrong. People who make such statements are fomenting hatred for those of us who are trying to affect change in how the federal system works.
They continued to vote their own self-interest.
Again, wrong. There are many federal employees who voted against O. The problem is this; there are too many who outvoted those who don't vote for their "own self-interest" and do vote for what's best for the country. Again, a blanket statement made in ignorance.
I hope we have hoards of them in the streets out of work, and the sooner the better for us all!
What an absolutely pathetic thing for someone to hope for. How can you sleep at night knowing what kind of horror you wish upon those who struggle to make ends meet?
Like Libloather said, public employees are like ticks on a dog! Sure there may be some who are worried about our country, but that worry is eclipsed by their own self-interest. Just look at the “news” about Los Angeles today! Ninety-one percent of the city’s budget is employee cost. I don’t know of any business that could survive having that kind of an employee burden. Public Employees have been riding the gravy train since the end of WWII, but their “train” has run out of gas ( read other people’s money). If we really took a look at the cost/benefit of what government is “providing,” we would put a huge percentage of them out of their jobs immediately. My comment still stands. I don’t think that the average public employee gives a $hit about those who pay his salary and benefits. He has deluded himself into actually believing that he is important to the rest of us and “deserves” everything that’s been promised him. Hopefully, Detroit under receivership will finally get the changes needed to become viable once again. I am sorry that you have had economic issues, but so have we. I am retired. I provided for my own retirement. I don’t get a pension from anyone. So when the economy “collapsed” (read the greedy bastards in New York screwed us all so their kids could continue to go to private school) we lost 30% of what we had invested for our retirement. At 72, I am not in a position to go back to work like you, so our remaining lives have been permanently altered. So I am just taking the position that you public employees have had all along. “Screw you guys,” I don’t give a $hit whether you have a job or not. You sure as hell didn’t care about what you were doing to me!
Did you not even read what I typed, or did you just just choose to ignore it?
There are many of us who do care and, again, for you to just throw out a blanket statement like that is insulting, hateful, and ignorant.
People with your attitude are as much of the problem as those who do have the attitude you attribute to me. Wise up man, and learn to realize that many of us are not what you describe.