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Michael Sullivan defends shifting message on gay marriage
http://bostonherald.com ^ | 03/06/2013 | Hillary Chabot

Posted on 03/06/2013 5:42:11 PM PST by massmike

GOP U.S. Senate candidate Michael J. Sullivan defended his shifting message regarding gay marriage tonight as Democrats and even Republican rival Gabriel Gomez blasted him for flip-flopping on the hot-button issue.

“This is no flip-flop, no flip-flop at all,” Sullivan told the Herald in a phone interview. The former U.S. Attorney had strongly declared his belief that marriage is between a man and a woman this morning. By the afternoon, however, he had sent out a statement saying he wants to overturn a federal ban that denies benefits to spouses who live in states that have legalized same-sex marriage.

“Marriage is a state’s rights issue,” said Sullivan, adding that while he still believes marriage should be between a man and a woman, “People should not be discriminated against.”

Sullivan’s clarification comes as Democrats launched an attack against the Republican candidate — who is the only one in the special U.S. Senate election who is against gay marriage.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: gabrielgomez; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; massachusetts; pinkjournalism; samesexmarriage; ssm; thoughtcrime

1 posted on 03/06/2013 5:42:18 PM PST by massmike
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To: massmike

There is no shifting message. The message is this. God says in Leviticus that it is an abomination. People need to know what these perverts do sexually to their own sex. I am sickened by the thought!! Nope — no shift in thinking.


2 posted on 03/06/2013 5:46:38 PM PST by willardwx
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To: massmike

Gay marraige has got to be one of the silliest, most inane distractions in the recorded history of politics. The media has republicans dancing like puppets on a string.


3 posted on 03/06/2013 5:46:50 PM PST by skeeter
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To: massmike; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; sickoflibs; SunkenCiv

Our likely GOP nominee in the MA Special.


4 posted on 03/06/2013 5:51:48 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: massmike

Democratic Party Chairman John Walsh said Sullivan is out of touch with Massachusetts, which became the first state to legalize gay marriage in 2004. “One issue people in Massachusetts have decided is equal marriage rights for our gay and lesbian neighbors,”
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/03/mass_dems_fault_gops_sullivan_on_gay_marriage

We citizens of Ma. decided we support gay “marriage”????

Gee! I must have missed THAT one being on the ballot!
Oh,wait.....

....Massachusetts lawmakers Thursday prevented a citizen-backed petition banning gay marriage from appearing on the 2008 ballot, voting 151-45 to defeat the proposed constitutional amendment.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/events07/concon_0614/rollcall.html


5 posted on 03/06/2013 5:52:12 PM PST by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: massmike

> Democratic Party Chairman John Walsh said Sullivan is out
> of touch with Massachusetts,

Considering that the Massachusetts Congressional Delegation looks like The Village People, and that they are *ALL* pro-abort, pro-gay, pro-tax, anti-family DemonRATS, that’s probably an accurate observation.


6 posted on 03/06/2013 6:06:14 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: massmike

“The former U.S. Attorney had strongly declared his belief that marriage is between a man and a woman this morning. By the afternoon, however, he had sent out a statement saying he wants to overturn a federal ban that denies benefits to spouses who live in states that have legalized same-sex marriage.”

Someone must have converted him at lunch.


7 posted on 03/06/2013 6:14:29 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: Westbrook

Yes, the MA congressional delegation looks like the Village People and will continue to do despite what happens in this special eleciton. People in MA are socialist true believers, the antithesis of the original John Adams.


8 posted on 03/06/2013 6:18:22 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Impy
Shame. I heard he was a social conservative and thought he might be an improvement over Scott Brown.

At least he's still claiming to be against gay marriage in ultra liberal Mass, compared to RINOs from "more conservative" states who have outright sold their souls to the RATs on this issue and are now no different than Barney Frank on this issue. Deborah Pryce and the other sellouts should get a free CD for their trouble:


9 posted on 03/06/2013 6:20:18 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Theodore R.

Put down the broad brush and back away. Not all of us are.

I’m a bit surprised because Sullivan is widely believed to be the more conservative candidate. I will likely support Gomez.


10 posted on 03/06/2013 6:21:39 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Impy

What a wimp. He could destroy his opponents by simply saying he’s the only candidate who doesn’t want to force people’s daughters to shower with transgender boys, but as usual with Mass RINOS, he has zero conviction whatsoever. I don’t want him in the senate.


11 posted on 03/06/2013 6:24:08 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Impy; massmike; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; sickoflibs; SunkenCiv

So the “Great Conservative Hope,” Gabriel Gomez, supports same-sex marriage? Hoo-boy.

Sullivan f’ed up by trying to have it both ways on same-sex marriage. If he believes that marriage should be limited to one man and one woman, as he claims, why would he oppose the federal law that does not recognize marriages that are not composed of one man and one woman?

Still, Sullivan may be the least bad candidate in the race. Maybe I can be convinced that conservatives should vote for Sulivan in the GOP primary instead of registering as Democrats and voting for the pro-gun, and sometimes-pro-life (but always pro-union and recently pro-gay) Stephen Lynch in the Democrat primary over the 100% liberal Ed Markey.


12 posted on 03/06/2013 6:26:35 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: massmike

There is no discrimination involved.

Same sex arrangements are outside the definition of marriage.

It happens all the time. We set requirements for all sorts of actions behaviors and rewards. I can’t qualify for a minority based scholarship. Maybe I should sue.

It violates equal protection and its hate based.

There is no rational basis for it. But there IS for man woman marriage: it provides stability for children. If that is not a compelling interest, nothing is.


13 posted on 03/06/2013 6:28:45 PM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: skeeter

Gay marraige has got to be one of the silliest, most inane distractions in the recorded history of politics.
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Not to God it isn’t.


14 posted on 03/06/2013 6:36:34 PM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: skeeter

No it is not. It is concerning the most profound, fundamental, intimate “way” at looking at human beings. It is Morality—Good and Evil—and replaces God with Satan/Occultism. To force Sodomy as a “Right”—removes God from our Constitution and FLIPS “Good and Evil”. It removes the most rational religion in the history of man from the minds of children.

It removes Natural Laws from the table-—the very founding principle of “Rule of Law” (Higher Law) and Reason etc. etc. etc. In other words, it destroys the Founding principles of our very Constitution which is based on the “laws of nature and nature’s God”. That is why the sodomy push by the left. They want the Constitution—gone.

Reason and Faith were combined by St. Thomas-—it created the Age of Reason and the Enlightenment. Without the Laws of Nature, there can be no science, no reason). Sodomy removes Natural Laws—they are no longer “Fixed” like all the Founders believed-—and become “evolving” like the Marxists need so they can obliterate Mother and Father and make men and women interchangeable (Radical Egalitarianism) which removes identity from man and woman. The Nature of Man and Woman can never be blurred to little children who become confused and it warps their “thinking” which becomes irrational.

By ignoring this promotion of sodomy-—to a return to pagan/occult morality will destroy the “Worldview” of all children when they see two men on cakes it will warp their perceptions of human beings to a sick, evil, Marxist Worldview where human beings are treated as a “means to an end”. Homosexuality is immature and idolatry and rejection of half the human race. It takes maturity to “love” differences. It is the “herd instinct” to reject and hate differences. Marriage is the only thing in cultures that unite a man and woman—and it is the only system which allows children their natural right to have a biological mother and father, the proven Natural way to grow emotionally, healthy humans who can love the whole human race—not like homosexual cultures like Afghanistan.

All homosexual cultures are brutal-—because they dehumanize men habitually by their vile acts which removes dignity. It is like promoting Prostitution or Slavery to children. It destroys the concept of Good and Evil.

Homosexual marriage warps their minds and thinking of children in such societies that glorify Vice-— the example are the little boys of Afghanistan who are “PROUD” to be in harems and being sodomized by wealthy men for although they don’t recognize “marriage” they do promote and glorify sodomy, even bestiality. Little boys in these cultures, love their dresses and make-up and trinkets and can’t wait to grow up to have their own harems.

All homosexual cultures are rife with pederasty from the Ancient Greeks to the Samurai, etc. It is a “sick” system where morality of using people for selfish lust is “Good”. It is not love, it is idolatry.

It is all the Feminization of men and normalization of Vice to destroy Virtue—which is needed for Freedom.


15 posted on 03/06/2013 6:36:41 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Impy; massmike; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; sickoflibs; SunkenCiv
>> So the “Great Conservative Hope,” Gabriel Gomez, supports same-sex marriage? Hoo-boy. <<

Yep, I went to Gomez' website after Sullivan tried to have it both ways on this issue. Gomez is to his left and openly supports gay marriage because he's against "discrimination". His position on other issues also suck (on abortion he has one of those "personally" pro-life type weasel statements; on 2nd amendment he's "pro-gun rights" but supports "closing the gun show loophole", on immigration he says we should bring "undocumented workers out of the shadows", etc.) so I think Gomez is like a Bob "Dold with D" type politician and wants to sound "reasonable" and able to bridge the divide in politics, but in reality he will simply vote with left on multiple issues.

Sullivan is still probably the "most conservative" candidate in the race, but given that its Massachuttes I wasn't expecting anyone remotely good. I'd probably hold my nose for him in both the primary and the general if I lived there.

Could be worse. Florida is pretty GOP friendly but I don't think they've had a decent Senate candidate in decades. The times they do nominate actual conservatives (Kathleen Harris, etc.), they chose the suckiest one.

At the rate this country is moving leftward, I wonder if it will be seen as "extreme right wing" NOT to be a registered communist in 2030.

16 posted on 03/06/2013 6:49:01 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Impy; massmike; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; sickoflibs; SunkenCiv
>> Democratic Party Chairman John Walsh said Sullivan is out of touch with Massachusetts, which became the first state to legalize gay marriage in 2004. “One issue people in Massachusetts have decided is equal marriage rights for our gay and lesbian neighbors" <<

Hmmm. 2004. I remember the Presidential election that year. The RATs alleged it was a "smear" against John Kerry when Republicans claimed Kerry was actually in favor of gay marriage, but wouldn't publicly admit it. Kerry voted against a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, but adamantly denied he wanted gay marriage to be legal.

Is it still a "smear" to point out Kerry was working behind the scenes to enact gay marriage?

17 posted on 03/06/2013 6:56:57 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

One thing is for sure. This nation needs an enema.


18 posted on 03/06/2013 6:59:44 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: massmike

I will vote for Sullivan, the others are much much
worse imo.


19 posted on 03/06/2013 7:09:54 PM PST by Sparky1776
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To: skeeter

The poofters in the media need to explain to the viewing audience why an issue which encompasses 2% of the population TOPS (if they were to ALL get married) is so damn important and “evil” if you oppose it.

Pink journalists smear the opposition. They need to be outed as activists who push propaganda daily.


20 posted on 03/06/2013 7:24:44 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: bramps
Nor is it to me. But it is being used to distract while the nation is undergoing a fundamental shift towards marxism.

Let the issue be decided in localities and refocus the discussion at the national level on the destruction of our Constitution.

21 posted on 03/06/2013 7:26:49 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Adder

Can’t marry a minor.
Can’t marry a relative.
Can’t marry more than one spouse.
Can’t marry someone who’s spouse refuses to divorce them.

But barring that, any MAN can marry any WOMAN. No discrimination involved.


22 posted on 03/06/2013 7:26:59 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: OKRA2012

Folks are just “evolving” all over the place.
I’m preparing for extinction.


23 posted on 03/06/2013 7:39:20 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: savagesusie

AMEN!


24 posted on 03/06/2013 8:47:06 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; Viennacon; fieldmarshaldj; randita

Great conservative hope? The guy Gomez looks like a BS artist me with his cookie cutter “I’m an outsider” message.

From Gabe’s website

http://www.gomezforma.com/issues/

“I oppose discrimination of any kind. Same sex couples should be free to marry.”

“I am a proud Catholic, and pro-life. But Roe v Wade is settled law. Politicians spend way too much time on divisive issues that are already decided and far too little time on fixing our economy.”

“Climate change is real.”

“The President and the Congress must act now to forge consensus and compromise to close the gun show loophole”

“Most undocumented workers are hard workers who contribute to our economy. It is time to bring illegal immigrants or undocumented workers out of the shadows, and offer an opportunity to obtain legal status, even citizenship, if they are willing to pursue it.”

Knowing little about Sullivan who does not have a site up AFAIK, I’d take Sullivan.


25 posted on 03/06/2013 8:58:20 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: BillyBoy

Oh yes, I demand an apology for that. Surely it’s forthcoming right? :p


26 posted on 03/06/2013 9:01:42 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT; BillyBoy

There’s a name for people like Gomez. It’s called a “Democrat.”


27 posted on 03/06/2013 9:38:26 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: skeeter

Unfortunately, the fact that it’s silly won’t kill it. I can’t even imagine how it qualifies for argument. The parts don’t jibe.


28 posted on 03/06/2013 9:51:07 PM PST by Mach9
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“Knowing little about Sullivan who does not have a site up AFAIK, I’d take Sullivan.”

Introducing Mike Sullivan in his own words, just over 10 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KneUf1eX_eQ


29 posted on 03/07/2013 4:26:55 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: Sparky1776; All

The infamous Chuck Turner on Mike Sullivan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrR0eeRmM3g

Sometimes you can get a measure of a man by his enemies.


30 posted on 03/07/2013 4:31:57 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: Sparky1776; Impy; massmike; willardwx; skeeter; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; ...

The man who took down bra stuffing Mass State Senator Diane Wilkerson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FnEBm_F8xc


31 posted on 03/07/2013 4:37:32 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: massmike; Sparky1776; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; ...
RE “This is no flip-flop, no flip-flop at all,” Sullivan told the Herald in a phone interview. The former U.S. Attorney had strongly declared his belief that marriage is between a man and a woman this morning. By the afternoon, however, he had sent out a statement saying he wants to overturn a federal ban that denies benefits to spouses who live in states that have legalized same-sex marriage.
“Marriage is a state’s rights issue,” said Sullivan,
adding that while he still believes marriage should be between a man and a woman, “People should not be discriminated against.”

Getting the court to force the Federal government to pay benefits to same sex couples is a ‘states right’ ??
I am all for states deciding their own abortion and marriage laws, I have been for a long time, and that is exactly what DOMA lets them do.

GWB's ex-spokes-woman fat smily faced toad Nicole Wallace was on MSNBC Maddow (Mad-dog) the other night bragging how she signed that letter with other Republicans asking the SCOTUS to overturn DOMA.

They are safe to expose themselves NOW, as Maddow says 'to progress on those issues' once out of office.

RE :".... overturn a federal ban that denies benefits to spouses who live in states that have legalized same-sex marriage.

That is not true, opposite sex couples in the gay states still get the same benefits as they always did.

spouces? Is that what we call them? Maybe the court will forbid the Fed laws to use the terms 'husband' and wife'.

32 posted on 03/07/2013 4:56:22 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: massmike

He won’t break 40%.


33 posted on 03/07/2013 5:13:59 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Sparky1776

Not impressed


34 posted on 03/07/2013 6:58:43 AM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: bramps

Cool vote for Lynch or Markey then.


35 posted on 03/07/2013 7:42:31 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Sparky1776.
36 posted on 03/07/2013 3:34:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Sparky1776

Scott Brown turned out to be as useful as a eunech in a whorehouse. No reason to think someone like Sullivan who couldn’t stand up to the pro sodomite crowd will be any different. Thoroughly sick of these morally bankrupt Ma. turds.


37 posted on 03/07/2013 6:13:04 PM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: massmike

People in Massachusetts DID NOT decide on gay marriage! The Mass Legislature blocked and delayed it until it was not allowed to go on the ballot. This went against the Massachusetts constitution which allows citizens to sign petitions to place legislation on the ballot. We were NEVER allowed to vote on the matter.

The issue then went to a liberal Mass Supreme court which denied the people the right to vote. Mitt Romney chickened out as the law was never actually passed.


38 posted on 03/09/2013 1:16:23 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Westbrook

Don’t you love how Lynch just had a change of heart about abortion when he decided to run for the US Senate? There is obviously a rule in the Democrat party, if you want to move up to the higher ranks of the party you have to sell your soul to all of the pc platforms of the liberal wing of the party which includes abortion, gay agenda, evironmentalist, etc. etc. No free thought allowed in the Democrat party and it seems to be spilling over to the Republican side as well.


39 posted on 03/09/2013 1:21:25 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Viennacon

Yeah, how about giving the voters a choice for a change.


40 posted on 03/09/2013 1:24:18 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: skeeter

>> Gay marraige has got to be one of the silliest, most inane distractions in the recorded history of politics.

Silly and dangerous.

Homosexual marriage law is designed to persecute those that refuse to service and support homosexual behavior.


41 posted on 03/09/2013 1:24:51 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: sickoflibs

If the Fed laws forbide using the terms “husand” and “wife” then maybe it will soon be considered not cool to use husband or wife in normal everyday speaking. That is so exclusive and offensive to gays, don’t you know.


42 posted on 03/09/2013 1:40:29 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom
RE :”If the Fed laws forbide using the terms “husand” and “wife” then maybe it will soon be considered not cool to use husband or wife in normal everyday speaking. That is so exclusive and offensive to gays, don’t you know”

I see what you are getting at.
Husband and Wife will be considered orientation slurs; much like c...n and n..r are considered racial slurs today.

43 posted on 03/09/2013 6:57:08 PM PST by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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