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Rand Paul Wins: Changing of the Guard?
washingtonpost.com ^ | March 7, 2013 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 03/07/2013 1:17:52 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion

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1 posted on 03/07/2013 1:17:53 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

There is no going back now.....Rand must seize this opportunity to take the reins of the party......it cannot wait.


2 posted on 03/07/2013 1:20:36 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Have to say McCain really showed his arse on this one.


3 posted on 03/07/2013 1:21:57 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: dfwgator

I’m with him if he does.
I’m not going to belong to the go along, get along lapdog party.


4 posted on 03/07/2013 1:25:53 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

[But Holder then admitted, no, the U.S. government doesn’t have the authority to target U.S. citizens at home who are not involved in hostilities.]

...and guess who defines hostilities.


5 posted on 03/07/2013 1:26:47 PM PST by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"That flared into an open spat...

I love the passive voice here.

John McCain made it an "open spat" when he decided to spit on the freedoms and protections from Government that many Americans take for granted.

Like judicial review for example. Like that whole "we are a nation of laws not of men" concept.

The only one who "spat" was McCain.

6 posted on 03/07/2013 1:29:45 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: RetSignman

You are of course right, but so is Paul.

And as well, Palin.


7 posted on 03/07/2013 1:30:34 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Palin needs to come out now and break from McCain. She paid her dues to him. She needs to think of her future. McCain is done!


8 posted on 03/07/2013 1:33:42 PM PST by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: Steely Tom
The only one who "spat" was McCain.

And the wind of public opinion blew it right back in his face. Priceless.

9 posted on 03/07/2013 1:33:56 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: dfwgator

Are conservatives willing to go with Paul on some of his more libertarian leaning positions?

His view of the US military’s role in the world, legalization of marijuana/hemp for starters?


10 posted on 03/07/2013 1:35:32 PM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

It’s not the changing of the guard. It’s just another wedge between the Conservatives and the Republicans.


11 posted on 03/07/2013 1:36:33 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: dforest
Palin needs to come out now and break from McCain.

I completely agree. She is great with the twitter and facebook 'instant' messages. Sarah, this one is due ... and soon.

12 posted on 03/07/2013 1:36:37 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: dforest

I believe you are right.

That is a tough call though. McCain for all his faults, brought us Palin.

Everything else he’s done before or after, has been a waste of time, but he did just fine with Palin.

Maybe you will forgive me for holding off, however. McCain is infuriating, but he brought us Palin. I think Palin must make that call frankly.


13 posted on 03/07/2013 1:37:21 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: RetSignman

[But Holder then admitted, no, the U.S. government doesn’t have the authority to target U.S. citizens at home who are not involved in hostilities

Axtually the word was combat
which is pretty specific
although if anyone could redefine it for their own purposes it would be 0dumbo


14 posted on 03/07/2013 1:37:53 PM PST by RWGinger
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To: BarnacleCenturion
I wonder if SENATE MAJORITY LEADER wouldn't be a good title for Senator Paul in January 2015?
Then to further dream, “former Senator John McCain in January 2017.
Now that is two things that do give me warm and fuzzy dreams.
15 posted on 03/07/2013 1:37:57 PM PST by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“McCain, along with his closest amigo, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), openly slammed Paul, calling him “uninformed”

McStain must have missed the first 12 hours of Rand Paul speaking. Oh wait he was out to dinner with Oblahblah cutting another losing deal to jam down our throats.


16 posted on 03/07/2013 1:43:48 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MadIsh32

Rand Paul needs to show me that he is not anti-Semitic.


17 posted on 03/07/2013 1:44:29 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Steely Tom

I think the problem with McCain is the same problem as most liberals have when it comes to issues we see as infringments on liberty.

He and they have an unassailable assumption of the benevolence of those who get elected to governmental authority.

“They wouldn’t ever abuse the power that they have, so why are you complaining?”


18 posted on 03/07/2013 1:44:52 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I stand with Rand. I want my freedom back!

I listened to more than a few hours of the filibuster. Rand sounded like a man who actually believes in the constitution - that is good enough for me.

Finally felt like we had a chance at liberty again - and I haven’t felt that way in YEARS!


19 posted on 03/07/2013 1:46:29 PM PST by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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To: RetSignman

Or what IS the target. They can blast a home (and anyone who happens to be in it) because there is a phone - making it a communication center.

I think Clinton used that one against the Serbians.


20 posted on 03/07/2013 1:46:43 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (RETURN TO MECCA [http://youtu.be/zWQkaDUCJ_Y])
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To: SVTCobra03

And he needs a coming home to Jesus moment.


21 posted on 03/07/2013 1:49:07 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (RETURN TO MECCA [http://youtu.be/zWQkaDUCJ_Y])
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To: MadIsh32

I won’t agree with Rand 100%, probably not even 80%....But I am looking to see if he has some stones as a leader.....That’s what people don’t realize, it’s not just about the issues, it is about the abilities as a leader....Do you think everyone that voted for Reagan agreed with him on everything? Reagan won because he was a heckuva leader, above all.


22 posted on 03/07/2013 1:49:25 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SVTCobra03

“Rand Paul needs to show me that he is not anti-Semitic.”

I do not recall him ever having shown an anti-semitic side.
If it is there I have not seen it. But I have not been listening to everything he says.


23 posted on 03/07/2013 1:53:15 PM PST by certrtwngnut (')
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To: dfwgator

You’re right, but it did take real stones to do the filibuster like he did. Kudos to Cruz (another man of courage), Mike Lee and eventually Rubio. Plus the members of congress who came over to stand with him.

This could have blown up in his face and yet he made it work. He didn’t read from a phone book. He spoke with conviction about the constitution! Laura Ingraham said she was amazed he could be coherent and passionate about liberty for so long. And no need for a teleprompter!

Finally even McConnell had to get in there - seeing which way the wind was blowing!

That was bold, unlike the quislings McCain and that sissy Grahamnesty!


24 posted on 03/07/2013 1:57:56 PM PST by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

McCain NEEDED Palin....more than she needed him.


25 posted on 03/07/2013 1:58:05 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Steely Tom
"That flared into an open spat... I love the passive voice here.

How is that passive voice?

26 posted on 03/07/2013 1:58:27 PM PST by Maceman
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To: SVTCobra03

He needs to prove a negative?

Why don’t you post some evidence that he IS?

This is as bad as “prove you’re not a racist”...

Seriously, is it because he doesn’t approve of foreign aid to Israel? If this is his position, I’d have to say I’m in disagreement with him there as well. We MUST support Israel.


27 posted on 03/07/2013 2:06:30 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

For the life of me, I don’t understand why liberals continue to defend this president. There’s really so much common ground to be made between the left and right. Senator Rand Paul’s filibuster highlighted at least one: the right of Americans to be tried in a court of law rather than be bombed in the dark of night via a drone. Liberals used to believe in innocence until proven guilty.


28 posted on 03/07/2013 2:08:41 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Andrei Bulba
Have to say McCain really showed his arse on this one.

I'm starting to get that feeling I had with Arlen Specter. McCain & Grahm may be the next independents.

29 posted on 03/07/2013 2:10:31 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Rand Paul showed how the GOP old guard like Juan McVain and his closeted, I mean closest buddy Lindsey Grahamnesty are nothing more than palace eunuchs for the Democrat Regime.

He also showed what a healthy, vibrant political party is supposed to do when our liberties are under assault.


30 posted on 03/07/2013 2:13:37 PM PST by EricT. (The Second Amendment is Tyrant Control.)
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To: MadIsh32

I don’t know the details of Rand Paul’s views on the military, but I certainly support a less interventionist military policy. If he means to get us out of Team America: World Police while maintaining a very strong national defense, then I’m for it.

As far a pot goes, that’s a matter that should be left to the states. The same thing goes for many other issues. Let the states decide. America can survive diversity among the states, but it’s doomed to fall apart or turn into a totalitarian state if Washington DC continues to impose its will on everyone.


31 posted on 03/07/2013 2:14:44 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: oldbrowser
They finally did it photo RealityShow_zps6efaabab.jpg You're right, they are as close as two men can get.
32 posted on 03/07/2013 2:17:05 PM PST by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: BarnacleCenturion

LoL... McLAIM “HISSED” AND Graham “slithered”...


33 posted on 03/07/2013 2:17:20 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Andrei Bulba

what Americans do not realize that McCain was a terrible pilot who got his plane shot down.


34 posted on 03/07/2013 2:22:14 PM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: SVTCobra03

As as semi-radical Zionist Jew person, I have NO qualms about supporting Rand Paul and I have every reason to believe that he would fully support Israel if and when necessary.
He is not his father...thank heavens...but any person who paid attention to his trip to Israel HAD to be impressed. I was. I am. And whoever calls him an antisemite would have to prove it before I would believe a single word of it.


35 posted on 03/07/2013 2:27:58 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Can anyone out there give me an example of 2 politicians - regardless of party or ideology - where one is further up the other one’s @ss than gramnesty is up mcpain’s @ss?
I mean - seriously - it’s surreal. I’ve never seen anything like it...


36 posted on 03/07/2013 2:28:25 PM PST by rhinohunter
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Can anyone out there give me an example of 2 politicians - regardless of party or ideology - where one is further up the other one’s @ss than gramnesty is up mcpain’s @ss?
I mean - seriously - it’s surreal. I’ve never seen anything like it...


37 posted on 03/07/2013 2:30:08 PM PST by rhinohunter
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To: dfwgator

On the day Reagan died, the priest at Mass (military chaplain, a young guy from NJ) said, in his homily, Reagan was a lapsed catholic, having been raised as one, he was divorced and remarried outside of the Church, and so he was not a model for us as a Catholic.

And then he said something I always remember in times like this, “but, as president, Reagan made sure that we could be free to practice our faith freely in our country. He did his job. So let’s revere him on this day”.


38 posted on 03/07/2013 2:31:08 PM PST by stanne
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To: MadIsh32
Are conservatives willing to go with Paul on some of his more libertarian leaning positions?

His view of the US military’s role in the world, legalization of marijuana/hemp for starters?


While I don't know the details of Rand's views on US military role, I will say, as a vet, that our use of the military has gotten corrupted and out of hand. I fully supported both the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns, and still do on one level, but Iraq turned into a 10 year nation-building swamp which yielded little to no benefit to us, and the Afghanistan war has become so corrupted with ridiculous rules of engagement and prosecutions of soldiers doing their jobs that it is almost a parody of a war. I don't want to see us wasting anymore blood or treasure on military campaigns that yield us no real benefit.

As far as the War on Drugs goes, I have felt that it morphed into an excuse for a police state a long while back, while being a miserable failure at the same time. Only a crazy person wants to keep doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.
39 posted on 03/07/2013 2:44:58 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: SVTCobra03
Rand Paul needs to show me that he is not anti-Semitic.

Why? Has he said or done something anti-semitic so far? He can't be held responsible for his crazy dad.
40 posted on 03/07/2013 2:47:55 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I like Ted Cruz so far.

I don’t like the guy who voted for Hagel.


41 posted on 03/07/2013 2:55:11 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: certrtwngnut; SVTCobra03
“Rand Paul needs to show me that he is not anti-Semitic.”

I do not recall him ever having shown an anti-semitic side.

In some quarters, insufficient enthusiasm for the current security policies of the State of Israel or for lavish American aid to the State of Israel is regarded as evidence of anti-Semitism.

42 posted on 03/07/2013 3:00:28 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: GeronL

I like Cruz also, but he’s Canadian.


43 posted on 03/07/2013 3:05:20 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Maceman
How is that passive voice?

I don't know... how can a "generational divide" possibly "flare?" A "generational divide" is an abstraction, an intellectual construct.

The author of the piece substituted an inanimate concept - which can't "flare," or do anything else - for one or both of a pair of human beings who can. McCain took the wrong side here, as elderly Republicans usually do, attacking one of his fellow party members from behind.

By making it sound like the "generational argument" is the issue instead of John McCain being the issue, the author took the passive voice, as I understand it.

44 posted on 03/07/2013 3:13:27 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: dfwgator

>> “Rand must seize this opportunity to take the reins of the party......it cannot wait.” <<

.
I agree. - He’s the closest thing the GOP has to a leader.


45 posted on 03/07/2013 3:20:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Steely Tom

Rand Paul stood on his feet and McCain sat on his ass.


46 posted on 03/07/2013 3:25:07 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Steely Tom
FYI, your example is not passive voice.

Trust me. My high school English teacher went crazy if we used passive voice in an essay, (i.e. the voice used to indicate that the grammatical subject of the verb is the recipient and not the source of the action denoted by the verb.

Passive voice eliminates the need for a subject, which makes it an excellent tool for sleazy politicians who don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

For example: "Mistakes were made," rather than "I made a mistake."

Even when the subject is specified in passive voice (i.e. "Mistakes were made by me," rather than "I made a mistake), it is a very inelegant and stilted way of writing. It was a big no-no in Mr. Painter's senior English class.

For more info see: http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/passive.htm

47 posted on 03/07/2013 3:26:18 PM PST by Maceman
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To: LibertyLA
I stand with Rand.

Me too! BUMP!

48 posted on 03/07/2013 3:31:34 PM PST by jpsb
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Thanks jazusamo.
49 posted on 03/07/2013 3:33:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SVTCobra03
Rand Paul needs to show me that he is not anti-Semitic.

That sounds a lot like "prove to me that you don't beat your wife." Rand Paul has never said or done anything remotely anti-Semitic, unless you're one of those people who assumes that cutting foreign aid (to all countries, not just Israel) is automatically "anti-Semitic."

50 posted on 03/07/2013 3:34:25 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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