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Dem State Senator To Rape Victims: No Guns For You!
Investor's Business Daily ^ | March 7, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 03/07/2013 4:14:59 PM PST by raptor22

Gun Control: As the Colorado legislature considers a ban on campus concealed carry, a woman testifying how she was raped in a "safe zone" 50 feet from a police station is told that armed defense is useless.

It didn't receive quite as much media coverage as Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke's plea for free contraceptives before Congress but on Monday a young woman named Amanda Collins mustered the courage to testify before a Colorado legislative committee on that state's proposed gun ban legislation.

Collins was raped at gunpoint in a University of Nevada-Reno parking garage in October 2007. Nevada law prohibited her from carrying a gun on the campus, but her attacker had one. She was raped 50 feet away from the campus police department office. Her attacker was James Biela, a serial rapist who raped two other women and murdered another.

He attacked her at gunpoint in a gun-free zone. At the time of the attack, Collins had a concealed weapons permit but not her firearm due to university policies prohibiting carrying concealed weapons on campus. Just such a gun-free zone policy is why the Aurora, Colo., shooter chose the theater he did.

As she ended her compelling testimony, she asked the committee, "How does rendering me defenseless protect you against a violent crime?"

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; amandacollins; banglist; democratscandals; eviehudak; guncontrol; gunfreezones; hudak; ibd; ibdguns; rape; rapewhistles; sandrafluke; secondamendment; waronwomen

1 posted on 03/07/2013 4:15:01 PM PST by raptor22
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To: raptor22
In response, Democrat Sen. Evie Hudak lectured her that "statistics are not on your side." She said that Collins had rudimentary training in martial arts, yet the rapist overpowered her and therefore could have taken her gun if she had one.

Hudak is stupid, inept and sick in the head.

2 posted on 03/07/2013 4:18:03 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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3 posted on 03/07/2013 4:23:22 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: raptor22

It is not the Colorado that I lived in from 79 to 84.

It was all the liberals running for cheaper housing that ruined a great state.

See my Tag.


4 posted on 03/07/2013 4:26:53 PM PST by hadaclueonce (Forget Mexico. Put the border fence around California.)
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To: raptor22

NCIS Special AgentLeroy Jethro Gibs Rule #9: Never go anywhere without a knife.


5 posted on 03/07/2013 4:28:50 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: TigersEye
Hudak is another Dim who won by the skin of her teeth.



"November 6, 2012 General election candidates:

Democratic Party (United States) Evie Hudak: 35,664
Republican Party Lang Sias: 35,080
Libertarian Party Lloyd A. Sweeny: 5,104 "

6 posted on 03/07/2013 4:31:39 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Sheez! The CO GOP has been a mess for some time. If we could get it together we could easily take this state back from the Progressives commies. Unfortunately repealing laws once made is difficult even with a majority. These new gun control laws are setting CO on a very dangerous course.
7 posted on 03/07/2013 4:40:00 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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8 posted on 03/07/2013 4:42:51 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: raptor22
Here is a picture of senator Evie Hudak, holding an object she says if women used more often, they wouldn't have to go out in public trolling for a rapist to get the sex they need.


9 posted on 03/07/2013 4:43:51 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

This is definitely one of the most “guilty” females on FR in quite a while, LOL.


10 posted on 03/07/2013 4:46:24 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: TigersEye
Not to mention, fugly...

TWINS?

11 posted on 03/07/2013 4:46:44 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: raptor22
Women, Salazar opined, "couldn't possibly know if they are in danger. And you don't know if you feel like you're gonna be raped, or if you feel like someone's been following you around or if you feel like you're in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop ... pop around at somebody."

What a jerk

There are certainly times when a woman knows she is in danger. Like when she is in a college parking garage and a huge man she doesn’t know is pointing a gun at her.

Very few women are going to shoot someone that is simply following her. This guy is a condescending a-hole and should be elected out of office at the earliest opportunity.

12 posted on 03/07/2013 4:48:01 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: 45semi
Aiyeeeeeeeeeee!

She is definitely a Baby Ruth in Colorado's swimming pool.

13 posted on 03/07/2013 4:51:32 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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14 posted on 03/07/2013 4:53:16 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
What the heck is that, a road flare? Is that what she uses for stimulation?
15 posted on 03/07/2013 4:53:16 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: raptor22

Another bad headline.


16 posted on 03/07/2013 4:55:50 PM PST by bgill
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To: raptor22
Here's the conversation-shocker you need to be ready with:

"It's too bad it was illegal for the staff at Sandy Hook to defend those kids."

17 posted on 03/07/2013 4:57:59 PM PST by cookcounty
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To: 45semi

Even if she lost a ton of weight there still wouldn’t be any hope...


18 posted on 03/07/2013 5:00:46 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: TigersEye

She’d have to pay a rapist and even then...She’s in no real position to speak about fear of being a rape victim. She has no experience or “opportunities” as she probably sees them...


19 posted on 03/07/2013 5:03:13 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: raptor22

Hudak? If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t that the name given to the beached whale in...where was it? Oregon?


20 posted on 03/07/2013 5:25:57 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: raptor22

This Coloradan has been thinking long and hard about Texas.


21 posted on 03/07/2013 5:29:30 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: raptor22
Democrat Sen. Evie Hudak lectured her that "statistics are not on your side." She said that Collins had rudimentary training in martial arts, yet the rapist overpowered her and therefore could have taken her gun if she had one.

How does this even make sense? Using martial arts requires you to make contact. She wouldn't have needed to if she had a gun. As far as the rapist being able to use her weapon against her........ummmm, the rapist already HAD a gun. It's not like he would have been any more dangerous even if he could have taken her gun. Being able to carry would have given her a chance to escape, to take him down, a chance to hold him while she called the police.

These democrats are dangerous.
22 posted on 03/07/2013 5:33:11 PM PST by Girlene
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To: raptor22

Here’s a point often missed by many. More women can better use an adjustable butt stock on an AR-15, because more often, they require a shorter length of pull. Women are more cheated out of effective self-defense by so-called assault weapons bans. Semi-automatic defense rifles with pistol grips, BTW, have a shorter length of pull than hunting rifles (shorter reach to the hand guard).


23 posted on 03/07/2013 5:42:30 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: TigersEye
I went over the 65 CO district representative elections that were won by Dems Commies in 2012, and these districts are close or close enough that can be won by Rs, especially in an off presidential year election and with gun control being a central issue.

"STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 11
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 18
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 28
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 17
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 26
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 23
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 29
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 30
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 33
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 35
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 40
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 52
STATE REPRESENTATIVE - DISTRICT 59"

24 posted on 03/07/2013 5:50:15 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: raptor22
Back in the olden days a woman often had a derringer in her garter, and a long hat pin as backup. Now they are told to pee and puke on themselves.


25 posted on 03/07/2013 5:54:30 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: jsanders2001

“She’d have to pay a rapist and even then...”

The rapist would claim emotional trauma and sue.


26 posted on 03/07/2013 5:57:40 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Red Steel

Absolutely. I am sure this gun control crap will have a big backlash.


27 posted on 03/07/2013 6:17:55 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Red Steel
Hudak is another Dim who won by the skin of her teeth.

"November 6, 2012 General election candidates:

Democratic Party (United States) Evie Hudak: 35,664
Republican Party Lang Sias: 35,080
Libertarian Party Lloyd A. Sweeny: 5,104 "

Another villain in all this is, now Senate President, John Morse.

2010 election results:
John Morse (D) 13,866
Owen Hill (R) 13,526
Douglas W. Randall (L) 1,320

Being mostly a libertarian myself, it's rather painful to me to notice that but for the Libertarian candidates, both Hudak and Morse would likely have lost.

I'm still a libertarian, but there are purists who let perfection be the enemy of the good enough -- both ended up losing, and what we were left with was just bad.

28 posted on 03/07/2013 7:03:57 PM PST by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: TigersEye
In response, Democrat Sen. Evie Hudak lectured her that "statistics are not on your side." She said that Collins had rudimentary training in martial arts, yet the rapist overpowered her and therefore could have taken her gun if she had one.

Not if she had shot him first.

And that would have ended his serial rape spree and saved the taxpayers plenty of money.

The senator is a moron I sure hope his security personal are not armed.

29 posted on 03/07/2013 7:11:07 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
Her security personnel. See her pic on this thread.

She's a moron. Martial arts only work if you are in physical contact with the attacker. Firearms work from a distance. Good point about ending his career.

30 posted on 03/07/2013 7:14:26 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

It’s been a long week.

Not to mention proudly posting comments on threads without reading them for seven years and counting.

:)

Nah. Sometimes even when I read it, I more skim it and miss pertinent details.

We’ll just leave it that politician = moron unless otherwise stated.


31 posted on 03/07/2013 7:23:54 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: TigersEye

Except for the nit that use of firearms is a martial art.


32 posted on 03/07/2013 7:25:04 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: TigersEye

What would you expect from a Democrat?

Logic?

She is a commie Rat traitor.


33 posted on 03/07/2013 7:40:27 PM PST by LtKerst
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To: raisetheroof

Yes...Thank you all you stupid Libertarians....


34 posted on 03/07/2013 7:42:43 PM PST by LtKerst
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To: raptor22; Revolting cat!

Take two morning after pills and put some ice on it in the morning.

The Democrats’ War on Women continues.


35 posted on 03/07/2013 8:49:58 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Sherman Logan

Yeah, that’s what everyone thinks when they hear the term ‘martial arts.’ /s


36 posted on 03/07/2013 9:50:24 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: LtKerst

We should thank the CO GOPe too for being the Progressive-Lite Party.


37 posted on 03/07/2013 9:52:10 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: raptor22

“We are your government; we are here to help you.”

We brought a body bag that is just your size.


38 posted on 03/08/2013 12:41:38 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: TigersEye; All

So are the people in his district that voted for this waste of air...

I would have just as much contempt for them as I do for this thing...

But hey, they made their bed, now ya gotta lie in it...Deal with it...Don’t come cryin’ to the rest of us if it doesn’t work out...


39 posted on 03/08/2013 5:56:59 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Red Steel; All

Way to go Libertarians!!! /sarc

Should have thought this one through instead of firing up and smoking that last bowl...


40 posted on 03/08/2013 5:59:29 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: familyop
AR15's, at least those in .223/5.56 are easy for women to shoot because they were designed that way (well, not specifically for women, but as a rifle with minimal recoil).

The straight-line stock, the low reciprocating mass/lack of gas piston assembly of the direct gas impingement design, of course the caliber itself, and as you mention, the adjustable LOP, make the AR about the BEST home defense tool for women.

People who advise women (who are not regular shooters) to use a shotgun, at least using it with a load that might actually stop an attacker, are either very stupid or evil.

41 posted on 03/08/2013 7:03:34 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
"People who advise women (who are not regular shooters) to use a shotgun, at least using it with a load that might actually stop an attacker, are either very stupid or evil."

Well, for those who only have shotguns, there are those fancy, springy Blackhawk shotgun stocks, flechette loads or 00 buck for pointing at upper leg areas for first shots, etc. Okay, I'm evil in a way. ;-)


42 posted on 03/08/2013 5:45:44 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

Hey, if the girl wants to have fun, I ain’t gonna stop her, either.


43 posted on 03/08/2013 8:22:21 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: 45semi

HA! My first thought was “that’s RD in drag!”


44 posted on 03/09/2013 9:03:19 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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