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COLORADO BAN ON CAMPUS CONCEALED WEAPONS DEFEATED
Human Events ^ | 3/8/2013 | John Hayward

Posted on 03/08/2013 1:24:39 PM PST by neverdem

Update: … or is the bill really dead? The plot thickens as the Denver Post updates is original reporting, and says Sen. Heath might not have made up his mind… but his Democrat colleagues insist that no, his mind is indeed made up… but the Senate President says those guys are just peddling rumors:...

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The “controversial comments” referenced by the Post include Democrat Rep. Joe Salazar suggesting that it’s better to arm high-strung women with rape whistles and “safe zones” instead of guns, so they don’t freak out if they “feel like you’re gonna be raped” and “pop out that gun and you pop a round” at random men. Meanwhile, Democrat senator Evie Hudak was explaining to the survivor of a brutal rape how guns are useless against sexual predators once a woman’s tae kwon do skills have proven ineffective. And the University of Colorado has been advising female students to repeal attackers with blood, vomit, urine, high-pitched screams, false threats of sexually transmitted disease, and “passive resistance.”

(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; guncontrol; secondamendment
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The Denver Post won't let us post their articles, IIRC. Maybe I'm confusing it with another paper. Please correct me if I'm wrong. What's the policy when another source excerpts a banned source?
1 posted on 03/08/2013 1:24:39 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

“...guns are useless against sexual predators once a woman’s tae kwon do skills have proven ineffective.”

Well, stupid. You’re supposed to use the gun first! You can judo chop him all you like after he’s dead.


2 posted on 03/08/2013 1:31:30 PM PST by beelzepug (Telling other people they need to die is a good way to get your own lamp blown out.)
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To: george76; dljordan; GraceG; dynachrome; unkus; loungitude; Washi; RandallFlagg; MileHi; G Larry; ...
Bump & a BANG!

FReepmail me if you want to be on or off my Colorado ping list.

I never noticed anyone with a Colorado ping list. I'm not from Colorado, but I'm trying to start a list for each state that includes a FReeper with a state ping list for that state if that state doesn't have one already.

If I see a story about Colorado, I want to let you know. This is not expected to be a high volume ping list.

Do any of you have a state ping list for Colorado? Do any of you want to volunteer and take my Colorado list with the intent to grow it? Let me know via FReepmail. Then I can work on other states.

3 posted on 03/08/2013 1:44:50 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem; george76

Thanks!

george76 has a CO ping list.


4 posted on 03/08/2013 2:03:12 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: neverdem

the gun debate could stretch into the weekend.


5 posted on 03/08/2013 2:08:07 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: MileHi

Thank you.


6 posted on 03/08/2013 2:08:30 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

The legislative website works pretty good for searching:

http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2013A/cslFrontPages.nsf/HomeSplash?OpenForm

The seven laws we want defeated are:

House Bill 1228 (gun purchasers would have to pay a fee, likely $10, to cover the cost of a required background check on gun purchases)

Senate Bill 197 (new restrictions on gun ownership for people who have restraining orders and who have been convicted of a domestic violence offense)

House Bill 1229 (universal background checks)

House Bill 1224 (Magazine restrictions)

Senate Bill 196 (hold sellers and owners of assault weapons liable for damages)

Senate Bill 195 (No online CCW classes allowed)

House Bill 1226 (Banning CCW on campus)

I’ll be using that search engine to find out who votes FOR these illegal laws, and work actively to get them defeated or recalled.


7 posted on 03/08/2013 2:08:33 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: neverdem

I’m only in Colorado for another 30 days. After that I’ll be home in the great state of Texas!!!


8 posted on 03/08/2013 2:09:01 PM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: george76

Good luck!


9 posted on 03/08/2013 2:10:14 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: MileHi

The sidebar works as a good ping type list, too.


10 posted on 03/08/2013 2:10:46 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: beelzepug

Best laugh I’ve had all day.


11 posted on 03/08/2013 2:19:20 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: beelzepug

Pretty dumb.

One thing about martial arts — you have to be in contact with or in close proximity with the attacker. A gun? Not so.

The sooner that you can inflict injury and before your attacker can inflict injury on you, the more likely that you will win.


12 posted on 03/08/2013 2:23:29 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: RandallFlagg

For 2 weeks, no one I call answers their phone and voice mail is full. They don’t want to hear from us.


13 posted on 03/08/2013 2:29:20 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: george76

Thanks for the tip


14 posted on 03/08/2013 2:30:20 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

Same here.
I’m done calling.
I’m printing little business cards with their names and contact info on them. And how they vote.
And putting them everywhere.

Then, emailing them to tell them that I’m doing this.


15 posted on 03/08/2013 2:32:52 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: rfreedom4u

We may be joining you in the coming years. Five generations of my family have lived in Colorado and I am considering leaving. This state is going down the tubes. The only thing that saved us was the Tabor amendment. Otherwise, the politicians would passing bad laws, making promises AND we’d be deep in debt.


16 posted on 03/08/2013 2:33:52 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: RandallFlagg

Thanks for the link.


17 posted on 03/08/2013 2:36:21 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: MileHi

Please add me to it.

Thanks.


18 posted on 03/08/2013 2:37:42 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: neverdem
The article says Democrat Senate sources are saying the bill is dead, but the sponsor, Rollie Heath, won't say whether he is going to pull the bill.

Universal background checks just passed a preliminary vote.

19 posted on 03/08/2013 2:53:07 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: RandallFlagg

Recall is being initiated against 2 more CO Dems, John Morse and Evie Hudak.

- - - - - - - - - - -

“Anyone in the Colorado Springs area come to the Broadmoor Hotel tonight at 7pm. We’re having a meeting about beginning the recall process on John Morse and Evie Hudak.

We’ve already filed the official paperwork on Mike McLachlan and signature gathering begins next week.

We can also now take donations towards the recall efforts of these “legislators” that would destroy our freedoms.

Check out our website which contains details of the event: “

http://www.coloradoaccountability.com

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1439405_Colorado_needs_your_help_on_upcoming_gun_legislation__FIREMISSION.html&page=89#i39046401


20 posted on 03/08/2013 3:11:42 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Thanks for those links. I don’t know if I can participate in a recall for a pol outside my own district but I can donate and offer encouragement. AFAIK my state sen. opposes all these gun control measures. I know my Sheriff does.


21 posted on 03/08/2013 3:20:58 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye
You're welcome. :-)

Yes, can donate to the cause to gather those signatures. I am. I think it's going to be easy to get them in each of their districts.

I know my Sheriff does.

They were in mass at the capital testifying against these laws earlier this week.

22 posted on 03/08/2013 3:27:44 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: TigersEye

HB 13-1224, the magazine ban has now hit the CO Senate floor.


23 posted on 03/08/2013 3:32:45 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: dhs12345; george76

george76 has the list


24 posted on 03/08/2013 3:33:15 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Red Steel
They (Sheriffs) were in mass at the capital testifying against these laws earlier this week.

I heard about that. That is very heartening. These state pols are setting up a very
dangerous and foolish situation but they're going to be on the losing end of it.

25 posted on 03/08/2013 3:33:19 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Godd idea...


26 posted on 03/08/2013 3:34:17 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Red Steel
HB 13-1224, the magazine ban has now hit the CO Senate floor.

That and the background checks are the two worst ones IMO. I sure hope it is defeated but I will not comply with any of them in any case.

27 posted on 03/08/2013 3:35:28 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

The R Senators are going over how many businesses this ban will effect.


28 posted on 03/08/2013 4:19:55 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I guess if Constitutional arguments won’t work, moral arguments won’t work and statistical arguments won’t work maybe the Progressives will yield to hard cash arguments. Whatever works!


29 posted on 03/08/2013 4:34:21 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: MileHi

Sen. Angela Giron, Democrat, angela.giron.senate@state.co.us
Sen. Cheri Jahn, Democrat, cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us
Sen. Andy Kerr, Democrat, andy.kerr.senate@state.co.us
Sen. Linda Newell, Democrat, linda.newell.senate@gmail.com
Sen. Jeanne Nicholson, Democrat, jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us
Sen. Gail Schwartz, Democrat, gail.schwartz.senate@gmail.com
Sen. Lous Tochtrop, Democrat, lotochtrop@aol.com

Please take a moment and contact these CO State Senators and respectfully ask them to vote NO on the proposed gun control package.


30 posted on 03/08/2013 4:46:41 PM PST by G Larry
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To: TigersEye

Dittos, FRiend.


31 posted on 03/08/2013 4:48:00 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg

This is all so disgusting. I can hardly believe that it’s happening here.


32 posted on 03/08/2013 5:05:23 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye; All

I’m at work all night. Any chance folks here could post more names of these people if they vote for any of this crap? My list is on the state FR board.

Thanks in advance.


33 posted on 03/08/2013 5:43:08 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: TigersEye

It is still going on - HB 13-1224 mag ban. The Dems just shot down an amendment to exempt the military and veterans and it got little ugly.

DUmmie, Ballbreaker Sen Hodges insulted the military by painting a broad brush that they are all sick with PTSD.


34 posted on 03/08/2013 7:16:15 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The Dems are all sick with hatred of America.


35 posted on 03/08/2013 7:52:49 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

The Rs went in the opposite directions with another amendment to pull all exemptions to the mag size ban legislation that the police and military or whoever would be limited as everyone else in Colorado and to level the playing field. The DUmmies shot that down showing their BS hypocrisy.

The debate is still going on in the senate. About 13 hours now. State Sen. Lambert said on radio this morning that the debate would likely go into next Monday.


36 posted on 03/08/2013 8:53:35 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
State Sen. Lambert said on radio this morning that the debate would likely go into next Monday.

Well, that's good. At least it will be a fight. How long will they go into the night? That's not typical is it?

37 posted on 03/08/2013 9:01:35 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

I don’t know how long. Probably around midnight they will shut down until Monday. Now Sen Marble just read an email that about 15 arms business who will not do business with the state of Colorado because they are denying their citizens the same.


38 posted on 03/08/2013 9:08:55 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: TigersEye

That would be sweet if it did.
Screw ‘em.
They make US lose sleep over this crap.


39 posted on 03/08/2013 9:11:48 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: G Larry

Apparently “Democrat” is the Kenyan word for “Communist”.


40 posted on 03/08/2013 9:14:22 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (A Republican freed the Slaves and a Democrat murdered Martin Luther King.)
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To: TigersEye

The CO Senate is laying over House bill 1224. [Until Monday?] Moving onto 1226.

HB-1226 ‘No Concealed Carry at Colleges”


41 posted on 03/08/2013 9:22:34 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Suggesting 1226 to be laid over to May 10th. ... Motion is adopted. As I recall, May 10th is the last day in session for the CO legislature.

HB 1224 is back to being debated....

And it has been adopted by headcount.

Now moving onto Morse BS bill to sue owners/dealers/manufacturers


42 posted on 03/08/2013 9:32:37 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I hope we can get some names of those supporting punishing the innocent.


43 posted on 03/08/2013 9:37:38 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg
Screw ‘em. They make US lose sleep over this crap.

That's for sure. I have come to expect this from the FedMob but I didn't think CO would get this un-American.

44 posted on 03/08/2013 9:41:30 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

With luck and strategy, we can organize and change things around here.


45 posted on 03/08/2013 9:43:45 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: Red Steel
HB 1224 is back to being debated.... And it has been adopted by headcount.

That stinks.

Now moving onto Morse BS bill to sue owners/dealers/manufacturers

That one was least worrisome to me. Unless I'm mistaken the SCOTUS has ruled against that whole concept on the even less ridiculous level of manufacturer liability alone. The Dems only look like fools for even trying that.

46 posted on 03/08/2013 9:45:40 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: RandallFlagg
Repealing laws is hard but I won't give up so that's all I will say about that.
Whatever happens we just have to press ahead.
47 posted on 03/08/2013 9:47:41 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

It turns out Morse tabled that bill since he laid it over until May 10th. The last day of assembly.

We are back to arguing against the mag ban again. :-)


48 posted on 03/08/2013 9:49:00 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: TigersEye

Same here.
I’ll be fighting this all the time on many fronts.


49 posted on 03/08/2013 9:50:34 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg
I hope we can get some names of those supporting punishing the innocent.

We will next week when the real votes happen.

Obama: voting is revenge.

50 posted on 03/08/2013 9:51:01 PM PST by Red Steel
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