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Maryland lawmaker introduces bill after pastry 'gun' suspension
FoxNews.com ^ | 3-9-2013 | FoxNews

Posted on 03/09/2013 11:02:52 AM PST by servo1969

Edited on 03/09/2013 11:03:54 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A Maryland lawmaker has introduced legislation after a 7-year-old boy in his district was suspended for shaping a pastry into what his teacher thought looked like a gun.

The Star Democrat reports that Republican Sen. J.B. Jennings introduced a bill that would prohibit schools from suspending students for seemingly harmless childish acts, such as playing games with fingers pointed like guns or chewing food into the shape of a firearm.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: baltimore; ban; banglist; bill; guncontrol; jennings; josh; maryland; pastry; school; secondamendment; suspension; welch
About damn time.
1 posted on 03/09/2013 11:02:52 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

A law where common sense should suffice isn’t the best option in my opinion.

People need to get off their butts and fix the schools.


2 posted on 03/09/2013 11:07:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: servo1969

They actually need a LAW for that???!!! Pathetic.


3 posted on 03/09/2013 11:07:34 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: servo1969

So sad that we’re at the point where a legislator has to even cosider proposing legislation like this.


4 posted on 03/09/2013 11:11:23 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: servo1969
We don't need more laws; we need to fix the schools.

"These suspensions are going on their permanent records and could have lasting effects on their educations."

???? A suspension for a 7 year old will go on some "permanent" record ????
5 posted on 03/09/2013 11:12:01 AM PST by Girlene
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed. They need to discipline or fire the jerk who did this. They don’t need another law. They already have about a hundred thousand of them.

Common sense. Rationality. It’s what the kids need, and they aren’t likely to get it if none of their teachers have it.


7 posted on 03/09/2013 11:13:13 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: servo1969

Legislation like this from the Radical Right will never pass muster in heavily Democrat Maryland.


8 posted on 03/09/2013 11:13:33 AM PST by madprof98
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To: cripplecreek
A law where common sense should suffice isn’t the best option in my opinion.

You're right, stupidity can't be legislated away. This should be handled locally with those responsible being fired. A few people losing their jobs would greatly discourage further stupidity.

9 posted on 03/09/2013 11:14:27 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: madprof98; Graybeard58
Legislation like this from the Radical Right will never pass muster in heavily Democrat Maryland.

I would be very, very interested to see a televised debate on this bill.

This should be handled locally with those responsible being fired. A few people losing their jobs would greatly discourage further stupidity.

That isn't going to work either. I'm sure the person or people responsible for this stupidity and similar stupidity regarding mark-believe guns and toy soldiers in our public schools, are protected by union contracts and cannot be fired for such stupidity.

The obvious alternative is to either use legislation to cut off the money (it's our money after all) or, if that fails, withdraw into conservative communities where we can control the schools and get rid of such stupidity.

10 posted on 03/09/2013 11:19:40 AM PST by Bryan
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To: servo1969

To reduce this type of incident in the future, Maryland should have a pastry buyback program.


11 posted on 03/09/2013 11:24:05 AM PST by NJRighty (I need a new tag line)
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To: NJRighty

U R funny. Maybe all parents should send their kids to school with toy guns.


12 posted on 03/09/2013 11:26:58 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: EDINVA

Yes, when you have to have laws to legislate common sense you know this country is screwed.


13 posted on 03/09/2013 11:29:07 AM PST by k4gypsyrose
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To: servo1969

A silver lining in leaving things the way they are, is that kids will learn to disrespect authority, as it is an arbitrary force. The parents might pick up that lesson too.


14 posted on 03/09/2013 11:39:02 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: servo1969

Shame it takes a bill.


15 posted on 03/09/2013 11:39:44 AM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: servo1969

The time is coming where even mentioning the word gun will get a student suspended from school. Liberalism is that damned plague that will bring this country down.


16 posted on 03/09/2013 11:41:46 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: NJRighty

“Maryland should have a pastry buyback program.”

The problem isn’t limited to pastry. Yesterday I saw an eggroll that looked like a supressor.


17 posted on 03/09/2013 11:46:46 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Girlene
???? A suspension for a 7 year old will go on some "permanent" record ????

I was suspended for three days, when I was in high school in the 1960s, for having shirt tail out. My life was ruined by that one incident. I could only get the most lowly type of jobs, like busboy or "community organizer" and was turned down by Harvard even though I had a scholarship. /sarc>

18 posted on 03/09/2013 11:47:01 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: servo1969

Common sense should not require new laws. Laws should require common sense.

1. Michigan: “School confiscates cupcakes decorated with Toy Soldiers” – A woman made a batch of cupcakes for her son’s classmates. Her 9-year-old son decorated them with plastic soldier figurines. The mother was called shortly after delivering them and was told they couldn’t be served because the soldiers had guns.

2. Maryland: “Pop-Tart Pistol?: 7-year-old gets suspended for gun-shaped pastry”—The child claims he tried to make it into the shape of a mountain but it turned out looking more like a gun. Obviously he was suspended for two days. PS- students are being offered counseling services if they were troubled by the pastry incident.

3. Colorado: “Colorado boy, 7, reportedly faces suspension for tossing imaginary grenade”—He was just trying to save the world from evil forces but apparently that flies in the face of the school’s “no weapons, real or imaginary,” policy. He doesn’t understand why he was “dispended,” either.

4. Maryland: “6-year-old boy suspended for pointing finger like a gun got off easy”—Just suspension, not expulsion? The author of this article quips, “Soon, six year-old children will be forced to sit indoors playing Sensitivity Training and delivering Powerpoint lectures to each other on Safety Within the Home and Workforce Best Practices.”

If you want to fix it, fire those responsible for this nonsense.


19 posted on 03/09/2013 11:48:24 AM PST by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: servo1969
You can't legislate intelligence.

Any teacher or school board member who does not have the intelligence and common sense to distinguish between a harmless childish action and a real gun threat is not sufficiently intelligent or mature to be teaching children right from wrong.


20 posted on 03/09/2013 11:50:23 AM PST by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: servo1969

It’s quite frightening to realize that our society has reached the stage where laws like this are needed.


21 posted on 03/09/2013 11:55:20 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Gator113
students are being offered counseling services if they were troubled by the pastry incident.

Not a bad idea- I'm sure the kids were severely traumatized by the behaviour of the school officials ;-)

22 posted on 03/09/2013 11:59:29 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: servo1969

Too bad the teacher who reported isn’t out of a job.


23 posted on 03/09/2013 12:02:07 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Bryan
or, if that fails, withdraw into conservative communities where we can control the schools and get rid of such stupidity.

I started to reply but clicked on your name first and saw that you too live in Illinois.

For many years now, right here on FreeRepublic, I've seen people suggesting or asking, "Why don't you just move out of that liberal hell hole"? What I've found is that it's a whole lot easier said than done.

If I were single, younger, jobless, no family ties, not a property owner, then and only then, it might be simple to pack up and move, except that in that case one probably wouldn't have the money to move.

"Why are you still here"? I'm sure you've been asked the question in some form or other. Most likely for some or all of the reasons I mentioned. It would be almost as difficult for me to move within the state.

I am retired now but my wife is not but we are still looking at Missouri, where people are a bit freer than here. It will be difficult leaving kids, grand kids and great grand kids behind but we would still be within visiting distance (about 300 miles). We still have two middle school age children at home too.

I don't believe there any easy solutions to the liberal pestilence that infests our country.

24 posted on 03/09/2013 12:12:50 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58

I don’t move from Maryland for many ofthe reasons you mention. But if I were going to move I would look into Oklahoma.


25 posted on 03/09/2013 12:27:48 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Gator113

While its radically more liberal than when I was there in the early 80s, my old high school still has at least some common sense going on.

I saw in the newspaper that they had a bomb threat yesterday. They didn’t evacuate the school. They kept students in the classes they were in at the time, had the teachers look for anything out of place, and staff look around in other areas and had a bomb sniffing dog go through for a quick once over.


26 posted on 03/09/2013 12:59:29 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: madprof98

New school laws that will soon come about:
All Staplers to have a fixed magazine of only 5 staples at a time. No noise suppressors can be attached. No staple remover can be affixed to Stapler.
Any student wishing to use a Stapler must prove he has had at least 2 weeks of training in use of said Stapler.
Students also must never refer to Staplers as “Staple Guns” as this could cause undue stress on teachers and cause unnecessary lockdowns and possibly some canine pets in the local area of the school.
Pupils wanting to use (Map/Thumb) Tacks and/or, all/any pointy items to be required to take a “Anger Management” course. Those passing said course can be appointed to “Tack Monitor” if Teacher is unavailable.
Thoughts of my weird mind.
With these I could run for office as a Dem. and win easy.


27 posted on 03/09/2013 1:10:49 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: servo1969

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28 posted on 03/09/2013 1:19:37 PM PST by B-Cause (The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money - Thatcher)
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To: servo1969

this actually needs legislation?


29 posted on 03/09/2013 1:28:46 PM PST by clustertruck
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To: servo1969; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

It should not have had to come to this.

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


30 posted on 03/09/2013 1:53:20 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Inyo-Mono

LOL......well I hope you learned your lesson!


31 posted on 03/09/2013 1:57:06 PM PST by Girlene
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To: servo1969

It would be much better for everyone concerned if this legislator would introduce a bill to disband and prohibit Teachers Unions.


32 posted on 03/09/2013 2:29:32 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: servo1969
About damn time.

No. It's an idiotic bill in response to an idiotic action. We cannot create laws to account for every single occurrence of stupid behavior.

The guy who came up with this bill may be well-meaning, but he's stupid. Might as well be a Democrat.

33 posted on 03/09/2013 5:11:11 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. -Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Cicero
Common sense. Rationality. It’s what the kids need, and they aren’t likely to get it if none of their teachers have it.

It doesn't have anything to do with common sense and rationality. Columbine ushered in a whole slew of "zero tolerance" policies that teaching faculty are obligated to enforce. It's easier to simply suspend the kid and keep your job than to use discretion and risk losing it.

That's why we now have no shortage of these crazy stories that make no sense to anyone --except to those in the teaching profession.

34 posted on 03/09/2013 5:18:37 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

In other words, we need fewer laws, not more of them.


35 posted on 03/09/2013 6:11:45 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Graybeard58

I love living in Maryland. I live in a rural, conservative part of the state, and I steer clear of the urban and suburban hell holes.


36 posted on 03/09/2013 7:36:00 PM PST by foxfield
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

This is being discussed on Fox and Friends now.


37 posted on 03/10/2013 6:18:11 AM PDT by RedMDer (Support Free Republic)
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To: servo1969

bump for later


38 posted on 03/10/2013 10:42:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberalism: knowing you're better than everyone else because of your humility. -- Daniel Greenfield)
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