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Royal Navy girl told to cover up uniform on Virgin flight in case it offended other passengers
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 20:23 EST, 8 March 2013 | Ian Drury

Posted on 03/09/2013 12:14:33 PM PST by Olog-hai

For 15 years she has proudly served her country as a Royal Navy engineer, risking her life in Afghanistan when she fought against the Taliban.

But far from showing Nicky Howse the respect she deserved as she flew back to her latest posting, Virgin Atlantic staff chose to humiliate her—by demanding that she remove her uniform because it was “offensive”.

They warned the 32-year-old helicopter technician she would not be allowed to fly unless she took off her combat fatigues and wore a sleep suit instead. …

They told her—wrongly—that it was the company’s policy not to allow military personnel to travel in uniform. …

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlines; dhimmitude; liberalagenda; militarywomen; royalnavy; virginairlines
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What a way to treat a heroine: Royal Navy girl who fought in Afghanistan told to cover up uniform on Virgin flight in case it offended other passengers
Hope she takes Virgin to the poorhouse.
1 posted on 03/09/2013 12:14:33 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

On what grounds? Pain and suffering from being unjustly asked to change? No, the bad press and a refund, apology, and maybe a few bucks for her trouble is enough. I don’t see why this would amount to a significant lawsuit. Unless not flying caused her to miss talking to her kid on their deathbed, or made a big business deal fall through, or something.


2 posted on 03/09/2013 12:18:59 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Olog-hai

She’s been a Royal Navy engineer since age 17? Quite an achievement!


3 posted on 03/09/2013 12:19:17 PM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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>> They told her—wrongly—that

One heck of a “wrongly”.


4 posted on 03/09/2013 12:20:34 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Moltke

>>She’s been a Royal Navy engineer since age 17? Quite an achievement!

Later on, the story calls her a “helicopter technician”. In Europe, engineer means more than the contemporary American definition.


5 posted on 03/09/2013 12:26:01 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Tublecane

On whatever grounds a shark can invent. I said this on another thread and I realize this is Europe, but it still applies. Liberals need their biggest tool, lawsuits, turned against them.

If this was (likely) a case of lib attendants acting on their own, then Virgin needs to pay dearly for hiring liberal idiots. That will give them incentive to NOT hire liberal idiots. When enough companies feel the pain and get the bad PR, it will become hard for them to justify their liberal decisions.

Because until now, thats EXACTLY what libs have done to us and it has worked spectacularly well.


6 posted on 03/09/2013 12:26:35 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Tublecane
A lawsuit does not have to claim “pain and
Suffering”

You can sue for insult and there is not limit on what can be claimed.

7 posted on 03/09/2013 12:27:28 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Tublecane

It may or may not be actionable; however, the article says she was returning to her posting. She was threatened with being kicked off the flight if she didn’t remove her uniform.

Had ahe refused and been kicked off the flight, and missed reporting for duty a ordered, she’d have been AWOL and in very hot water which theoretically could have cost her some rank and pay. To sailor that’ akin to “a big business deal fall[ing] through, or something.”

However, the poor PR for Virgin will cost them plenty as members of the Royal military, their families, friends and supporters, decide to fly other airlines.


8 posted on 03/09/2013 12:28:18 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe she should have asked Virgin to cover up their logo in case it offended anyone...


9 posted on 03/09/2013 12:28:54 PM PST by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Olog-hai

I have never flown on Virgin, and now it looks like I never will. In this age of terrorism, I prefer to fly on an airline that welcomes uniformed allied service personnel.


10 posted on 03/09/2013 12:28:57 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Tublecane

Don’t expect Virgin to change anything unless it hurts.


11 posted on 03/09/2013 12:43:59 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

And she looked at the steward and said “bugger off”.
(I hope anyway)


12 posted on 03/09/2013 12:46:13 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Olog-hai

It’s the UK for heavens sake. They’re like that. Moronic.


13 posted on 03/09/2013 12:48:37 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Olog-hai

Possibly guilty, more evidence needed though.
But I do like her gun.


14 posted on 03/09/2013 12:50:04 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Fiji Hill

It was NOT company policy. I would not take a local idiots ridiculous made up rule to heart as company policy. It was not and there has or will be a correction toward the service member.


15 posted on 03/09/2013 12:50:54 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SkyDancer

Read the original article and comments. Most Brits still get it.


16 posted on 03/09/2013 12:54:04 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Vaquero

“And making mock of uniforms that guard you while you sleep”...


17 posted on 03/09/2013 12:55:12 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Olog-hai

Hopefully the staff involved have been fired.


18 posted on 03/09/2013 12:58:20 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Olog-hai

Just great. Make her take off her Royal Navy uniform.
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And then dress her up as a Viet Cong.


19 posted on 03/09/2013 1:07:35 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Olog-hai

Combat fatigues are a work uniform. I don’t fly often , but when I do I don’t wear my work clothes.

When I was in the service it was Civvies or Dress uniform to leave the post, today is different, but even so a military person IMO shuld not wear fatigues to fly in.

Not that it offends me , but pride in their uniform should be enough for them to put it on for trips on planes.


20 posted on 03/09/2013 1:09:37 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Olog-hai

When I was stationed in Spain in the mid-70s we were told not to wear our uniforms off base or risk being attacked.


21 posted on 03/09/2013 1:10:34 PM PST by Reagan‹berAlles
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To: Olog-hai

Who the hell would be offended by service member traveling in uniform?


22 posted on 03/09/2013 1:18:31 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Olog-hai
What a way to treat a heroine

Evidently she is a decorated hero, I didn't see it in the text of the article though.

23 posted on 03/09/2013 1:19:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles

IIRC, right after 9-11 active U.S. military were ordered to travel by air in civilian clothes only.

Later on, they were encouraged and then directed to travel in duty uniform as this served both as a deterrent & aa a reassurance to other passengers.

Anyway, Virgin Atlantic needs an attitude adjustment in the form of a military boycott, for a while anyway.


24 posted on 03/09/2013 1:22:16 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Olog-hai

I can’t quite tell from the article how it turned out that day. Daily Mail? Bueller?


25 posted on 03/09/2013 1:22:44 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: svcw
And she looked at the steward and said “bugger off”. (I hope anyway)

I agree with you on that.

26 posted on 03/09/2013 1:23:36 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Olog-hai

A$$hole liberals!


27 posted on 03/09/2013 1:26:05 PM PST by I want the USA back (Liberalism is an inability of the thinking apparatus to function properly.)
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To: Venturer

I dunno Venturer,,maybe for a 2 hour flight but this was a transAtlantic flight.


28 posted on 03/09/2013 1:30:12 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Olog-hai

Tommy

I WENT into a public ‘ouse to get a pint o’beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, ``We serve no red-coats here.’’
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:
O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ``Tommy, go away’’;
But it’s ``Thank you, Mister Atkins,’’ when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it’s ``Thank you, Mr. Atkins,’’ when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music ‘alls,
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ``Tommy, wait outside’’;
But it’s ``Special train for Atkins’’ when the trooper’s on the tide,
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s ``Special train for Atkins’’ when the trooper’s on the tide.
Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ``Tommy how’s yer soul?’’
But it’s ``Thin red line of ‘eroes’’ when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s ``Thin red line of ‘eroes’’ when the drums begin to roll.
We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints:
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an ``Tommy, fall be’ind,’’
But it’s ``Please to walk in front, sir,’’ when there’s trouble in the wind,
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s ``Please to walk in front, sir,’’ when there’s trouble in the wind.
You talk o’ better food for us, an’schools, an’ fires an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ``Chuck him out, the brute!’’
But it’s ``Saviour of ‘is country,’’ when the guns begin to shoot;
Yes it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
But Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool—you bet that Tommy sees!
Rudyard Kipling


29 posted on 03/09/2013 1:31:32 PM PST by jack308
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To: Olog-hai
Anyone have that picture of Moochelle getting off Air Force One looking like a bag lady?

Perhaps this attire would be more acceptable to Virgin airlines?

30 posted on 03/09/2013 1:33:10 PM PST by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: Olog-hai

Make the flight attendants suffer through Royal Marine boot camp.


31 posted on 03/09/2013 1:40:17 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles

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“...told not to wear our uniforms off base or risk being attacked
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I do not recall that being a problemo at Fort Benning -

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32 posted on 03/09/2013 1:43:36 PM PST by devolve ( -- -- God created men - Sam Colt made them equal --- Shoot low boys! - Skeeter is riding a pig! --)
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To: svcw

Were I on that flight, after serving 20+ years, being told to “Bugger Off”, would be kind.


33 posted on 03/09/2013 1:44:55 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Vaquero

Wasn’t there a song, “Virgin Breaks Guitars”? Oh, I know, I recalled -wrongly - but Virgin started it. LOL


34 posted on 03/09/2013 1:45:14 PM PST by healy61
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To: green pastures
Maybe she should have asked Virgin to cover up their logo in case it offended anyone...

A side note re the "virgin" logo: on the campus of UNC-Chapel Hill, there is a statue commemorating Confederate soldiers called "Silent Sam" because he is not carrying ammunition. But the local lore is that Silent Sam only speaks when a virgin passes by; and so far he hasn't said anything.

35 posted on 03/09/2013 1:50:40 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Liberalism: knowing you're better than everyone else because of your humility. -- Daniel Greenfield)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Read the original article and comments. Most Brits still get it.

That's because the DailyMail readership is roughly the UK equivalent of FoxNews or FR. Readers are usually "regular blokes" who are sick of government Nanny. You should hear the comments when they run stories about Zero or M'Antoinette.

36 posted on 03/09/2013 1:53:33 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Liberalism: knowing you're better than everyone else because of your humility. -- Daniel Greenfield)
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To: 21twelve
Just great. Make her take off her Royal Navy uniform... And then dress her up as a Viet Cong.

If she were wearing a Che Guevara or Chairman Mao shirt, there'd have been no problem.

37 posted on 03/09/2013 1:55:05 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Liberalism: knowing you're better than everyone else because of your humility. -- Daniel Greenfield)
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To: BenLurkin
Who the hell would be offended by service member traveling in uniform?

There are many, many muslims in UK and Europe. Could it be that one of them complained?


Nah. They're the religion of peace. /sarc

38 posted on 03/09/2013 1:57:47 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Liberalism: knowing you're better than everyone else because of your humility. -- Daniel Greenfield)
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To: Norm Lenhart

It’s interesting that “liberal decisions” are almost always illiberal.


39 posted on 03/09/2013 2:07:00 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: LADY J

40 posted on 03/09/2013 2:19:17 PM PST by PLD
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To: svcw; SkyDancer
Bugger off!

Love it... Hell... when I was in the service we had to wear our Class A's if we wanted the military discount.

My best encounter of this was when I boarded a flight from Stapleton, Denver, to a flight to Chicago. The Stewardess said there was no more room in coach, and with a wink she said, "Would you mind traveling First Class?" Of course I had to comply. What else could I do?

41 posted on 03/09/2013 2:22:19 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: austinaero

Nothing wrong with comfortable Civvies.


42 posted on 03/09/2013 2:22:38 PM PST by Venturer
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To: PLD
Are they coming off Air Force 1? Absolutely no class.

They are representing this country and they look as if it's just another day at the beach.

43 posted on 03/09/2013 2:24:54 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Olog-hai

F’n Virgin Atlantic diserves to lose their routes to the US. Boycott them. Perhaps they should have all their 747’s replaced with Sir Richard Branson’s balloons. And btw, what does he have to say about this in-your-face treatment of a member of the Royal Navy?


44 posted on 03/09/2013 2:27:48 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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It seems to me that this is the sort of thing that Richard Branson should be handling personally.

First off, he needs to publicly humiliate that security firm, which Virgin probably has no control over, but he needs to make a huge stink about them in the British media.

Secondly, he needs to investigate exactly who tried to force the Petty Officer into the PJs, and personally reprimand everyone up the organizational chart from the supervisor of the scumbag, then personally fire the scumbag AND supervisor.

Something like this should NOT have been acceptable on a British Flagged airline, especially if a leg of it was in US territory!

Mark


45 posted on 03/09/2013 2:30:56 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Venturer

All our service members travel in ACUs.


46 posted on 03/09/2013 2:33:26 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: Northern Yankee
yes they were coming off Air Force one..Just one of her many dreadful outfits.. This is what the girl was wearing before the morons made her change..I for one would sue those bums on that airline..(I am not the type that would sue anyone but would in that case)poor girl must have really been embarrassed..she should also demand that G4S security guard was fired along with the others that embarrassed her..
47 posted on 03/09/2013 2:43:22 PM PST by PLD
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To: Olog-hai
George Orwell also had something to say about our service heroes;

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

48 posted on 03/09/2013 2:47:37 PM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles

Same thing here about not wearing the uniform off base.

1971,Ft Lewis,the officers said it was dangerous to

go in Tacoma with VN service awards on you alls dress

uniforms. Hell,the bus transporting us had steel mesh

on the windows to stop stuff thrown.


49 posted on 03/09/2013 3:03:47 PM PST by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Dan(9698)

huh, really now


50 posted on 03/09/2013 3:12:57 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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