Skip to comments.Royal Navy girl told to cover up uniform on Virgin flight in case it offended other passengers
Posted on 03/09/2013 12:14:33 PM PST by Olog-hai
For 15 years she has proudly served her country as a Royal Navy engineer, risking her life in Afghanistan when she fought against the Taliban.
But far from showing Nicky Howse the respect she deserved as she flew back to her latest posting, Virgin Atlantic staff chose to humiliate herby demanding that she remove her uniform because it was offensive.
They warned the 32-year-old helicopter technician she would not be allowed to fly unless she took off her combat fatigues and wore a sleep suit instead.
They told herwronglythat it was the companys policy not to allow military personnel to travel in uniform.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Hope she takes Virgin to the poorhouse.
What a way to treat a heroine: Royal Navy girl who fought in Afghanistan told to cover up uniform on Virgin flight in case it offended other passengers
On what grounds? Pain and suffering from being unjustly asked to change? No, the bad press and a refund, apology, and maybe a few bucks for her trouble is enough. I don’t see why this would amount to a significant lawsuit. Unless not flying caused her to miss talking to her kid on their deathbed, or made a big business deal fall through, or something.
She’s been a Royal Navy engineer since age 17? Quite an achievement!
>> They told herwronglythat
One heck of a “wrongly”.
>>Shes been a Royal Navy engineer since age 17? Quite an achievement!
Later on, the story calls her a “helicopter technician”. In Europe, engineer means more than the contemporary American definition.
On whatever grounds a shark can invent. I said this on another thread and I realize this is Europe, but it still applies. Liberals need their biggest tool, lawsuits, turned against them.
If this was (likely) a case of lib attendants acting on their own, then Virgin needs to pay dearly for hiring liberal idiots. That will give them incentive to NOT hire liberal idiots. When enough companies feel the pain and get the bad PR, it will become hard for them to justify their liberal decisions.
Because until now, thats EXACTLY what libs have done to us and it has worked spectacularly well.
You can sue for insult and there is not limit on what can be claimed.
It may or may not be actionable; however, the article says she was returning to her posting. She was threatened with being kicked off the flight if she didn’t remove her uniform.
Had ahe refused and been kicked off the flight, and missed reporting for duty a ordered, she’d have been AWOL and in very hot water which theoretically could have cost her some rank and pay. To sailor that’ akin to “a big business deal fall[ing] through, or something.”
However, the poor PR for Virgin will cost them plenty as members of the Royal military, their families, friends and supporters, decide to fly other airlines.
Maybe she should have asked Virgin to cover up their logo in case it offended anyone...
I have never flown on Virgin, and now it looks like I never will. In this age of terrorism, I prefer to fly on an airline that welcomes uniformed allied service personnel.
Don’t expect Virgin to change anything unless it hurts.
And she looked at the steward and said “bugger off”.
(I hope anyway)
It’s the UK for heavens sake. They’re like that. Moronic.
Possibly guilty, more evidence needed though.
But I do like her gun.
It was NOT company policy. I would not take a local idiots ridiculous made up rule to heart as company policy. It was not and there has or will be a correction toward the service member.
Read the original article and comments. Most Brits still get it.
“And making mock of uniforms that guard you while you sleep”...
Hopefully the staff involved have been fired.
Just great. Make her take off her Royal Navy uniform.
And then dress her up as a Viet Cong.
Combat fatigues are a work uniform. I don’t fly often , but when I do I don’t wear my work clothes.
When I was in the service it was Civvies or Dress uniform to leave the post, today is different, but even so a military person IMO shuld not wear fatigues to fly in.
Not that it offends me , but pride in their uniform should be enough for them to put it on for trips on planes.
When I was stationed in Spain in the mid-70s we were told not to wear our uniforms off base or risk being attacked.
Who the hell would be offended by service member traveling in uniform?
Evidently she is a decorated hero, I didn't see it in the text of the article though.
IIRC, right after 9-11 active U.S. military were ordered to travel by air in civilian clothes only.
Later on, they were encouraged and then directed to travel in duty uniform as this served both as a deterrent & aa a reassurance to other passengers.
Anyway, Virgin Atlantic needs an attitude adjustment in the form of a military boycott, for a while anyway.
I can’t quite tell from the article how it turned out that day. Daily Mail? Bueller?
I agree with you on that.
I dunno Venturer,,maybe for a 2 hour flight but this was a transAtlantic flight.
I WENT into a public ‘ouse to get a pint o’beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, ``We serve no red-coats here.’’
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:
O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ``Tommy, go away’’;
But it’s ``Thank you, Mister Atkins,’’ when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it’s ``Thank you, Mr. Atkins,’’ when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music ‘alls,
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ``Tommy, wait outside’’;
But it’s ``Special train for Atkins’’ when the trooper’s on the tide,
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s ``Special train for Atkins’’ when the trooper’s on the tide.
Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ``Tommy how’s yer soul?’’
But it’s ``Thin red line of ‘eroes’’ when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s ``Thin red line of ‘eroes’’ when the drums begin to roll.
We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints:
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an ``Tommy, fall be’ind,’’
But it’s ``Please to walk in front, sir,’’ when there’s trouble in the wind,
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s ``Please to walk in front, sir,’’ when there’s trouble in the wind.
You talk o’ better food for us, an’schools, an’ fires an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ``Chuck him out, the brute!’’
But it’s ``Saviour of ‘is country,’’ when the guns begin to shoot;
Yes it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
But Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool—you bet that Tommy sees!
Perhaps this attire would be more acceptable to Virgin airlines?
Make the flight attendants suffer through Royal Marine boot camp.
“...told not to wear our uniforms off base or risk being attacked
I do not recall that being a problemo at Fort Benning -
Were I on that flight, after serving 20+ years, being told to “Bugger Off”, would be kind.
Wasn’t there a song, “Virgin Breaks Guitars”? Oh, I know, I recalled -wrongly - but Virgin started it. LOL
A side note re the "virgin" logo: on the campus of UNC-Chapel Hill, there is a statue commemorating Confederate soldiers called "Silent Sam" because he is not carrying ammunition. But the local lore is that Silent Sam only speaks when a virgin passes by; and so far he hasn't said anything.
That's because the DailyMail readership is roughly the UK equivalent of FoxNews or FR. Readers are usually "regular blokes" who are sick of government Nanny. You should hear the comments when they run stories about Zero or M'Antoinette.
If she were wearing a Che Guevara or Chairman Mao shirt, there'd have been no problem.
There are many, many muslims in UK and Europe. Could it be that one of them complained?
Nah. They're the religion of peace. /sarc
It’s interesting that “liberal decisions” are almost always illiberal.
Love it... Hell... when I was in the service we had to wear our Class A's if we wanted the military discount.
My best encounter of this was when I boarded a flight from Stapleton, Denver, to a flight to Chicago. The Stewardess said there was no more room in coach, and with a wink she said, "Would you mind traveling First Class?" Of course I had to comply. What else could I do?
Nothing wrong with comfortable Civvies.
They are representing this country and they look as if it's just another day at the beach.
F’n Virgin Atlantic diserves to lose their routes to the US. Boycott them. Perhaps they should have all their 747’s replaced with Sir Richard Branson’s balloons. And btw, what does he have to say about this in-your-face treatment of a member of the Royal Navy?
It seems to me that this is the sort of thing that Richard Branson should be handling personally.
First off, he needs to publicly humiliate that security firm, which Virgin probably has no control over, but he needs to make a huge stink about them in the British media.
Secondly, he needs to investigate exactly who tried to force the Petty Officer into the PJs, and personally reprimand everyone up the organizational chart from the supervisor of the scumbag, then personally fire the scumbag AND supervisor.
Something like this should NOT have been acceptable on a British Flagged airline, especially if a leg of it was in US territory!
All our service members travel in ACUs.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
Same thing here about not wearing the uniform off base.
1971,Ft Lewis,the officers said it was dangerous to
go in Tacoma with VN service awards on you alls dress
uniforms. Hell,the bus transporting us had steel mesh
on the windows to stop stuff thrown.
huh, really now