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To: smoothsailing

Can anyone tell us how McCain got the GOP nomination other than Lieberman backed him.


17 posted on 03/09/2013 1:15:33 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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“Sen McCain called @SenRandPaul @SenTedCruz & me “wacko birds.” Bravo, Senator. You got us. Did you come up with that at #DinnerWithBarack?”

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19 posted on 03/09/2013 1:19:12 PM PST by austinaero
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"Can anyone tell us how McCain got the GOP nomination other than Lieberman backed him.?"

Yes ex-snook, Democrat support for McCain is in the senate archives. Barack Obama and his campaign chair Clare McCaskill sponsored Senate Bill 2678 in February 2008. What is SB 2678? It's reference title is the ‘‘Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act’’. This is treated by the progressives, and by the less informed, as conspiracy nonsense. The term conspiracy may apply, as it does to many tactics, but it is also verifiably true. The resulting law, had the bill passed - it failed in the senate - would have had to become an amendment because only the Supreme Court may interpret provisions of the Constitution. John Conyers tried twice between 2003 and 2006 and failed to pass an amendment which would have made both Obama and McCain eligible to be president, as did Orrin Hatch, whose intention, in 2002, was to make Schwarzegger eligible, just three of some twenty eight attempts to amend the Constitution. Our legislators know the truth and the law, but both face essentially unlimited financial resources which will surely bankrupt anyone who talks. We are the drones who fund their machinations, clearly in violation of our Constitution.

After S 2678 failed Obama, Leahy, McCaskill, Clinton, Webb, and Coburn, as cosponsors sponsored a "resolution", Senate Resolution 511, in April 2008, just two months after S 2678 failed to pass. The keystone statement in SR 511 is this statement by Senator Leahy; “Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Leahy. “I expect that this will be a unanimous resolution of the Senate.” It was unanimous, including Senator Obama, whose father was never a US citizen.

Resolutions are not actionable, and are used more like a poll of the senate. The object of both actions was John McCain, who was otherwise ineligible because he was not a natural born citizen as defined in some twenty six Supreme Court cases, one of which established the common-law definition as precedent.

The legal details have been examined exhaustively. It is a bit ironic that it was Democrat lawyers, many professors of law, who carefully examined McCain's shortcoming, that having been born on territory, The Panama Canal Zone that was not incorporated by Congress until 1937. The cleverness by Democrats was in using the famous prisoner of war whose allegiance to the US has seldom been in doubt, but whose feeling of entitlement is also well known. With McCain as Obama's opponent, Republicans knew they dare not raise the fact because Hillary was sitting eagerly in the wings.

Obama described himself as a naturalized, and never as a natural born citizen; "I was born a subject of the British Commonwealth...", and "I am a native-born citizen of the US." A "native-born" citizen implies naturalization by the 14th Amendment. Only our president must be "natural born". The terminology is so confusing that both Democrats and Republicans knew that, with the media using ridicule, Alinsky's 5th rule, and then avoiding any discussion they could silence "orginalist" objects. As Andy Stern coined, use the "politics of persuasion, and if that doesn't work, the politics of force." Democrats immediately found IRS violations to charge the only Congressman to ask, Nathan Deal, and force his resignation. After that, no one dared raise the eligibility issue. That probably explains Rubio, Jindal and Cruz. If all candidates violate Article II, it will be easier to amend the Constitution, particularly with a packed Supreme Court.

The simple fact is that the Constitution doesn't have definitions, by design. To remain eternally understood, terms used in the Constitution must be interpreted, as Chief Justice Morrison Waite explained in Minor v. Happersett, "At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens,..." These words have never been amended, and established the "common law" definition as "positive law", or "precedent. John McCain was, unfortunately, not born on our soil. Barack Obama was not only not born to citizens, his birth was governed by British law, a subject of the Crown. McCain knows all of this, and joined, perhaps even colluded with, the Democrat party to become a presidential candidate.

Sad to say, but not surprising, the likely prospects being touted by the GOP, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, and Ted Cruz are all naturalized citizens. Is this because it protects those still in government from prosecution? All three have been cagey about answering natural born citizenship questions. As long was we compare what lawyers and academicisns tell us is in Supreme Court cases, Rubio, Cruz, and Jindal might face an honest questioner (unlike Sean Hannity, whose company's largest private stockholder is Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin-Talal, who fed a fictitious definition to Cruz during a recent interview.

41 posted on 03/09/2013 2:54:30 PM PST by Spaulding
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