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This list is gleaned from many Civil War related threads. It's in no particular sequence. Tried hard to keep answers short, so sources, links and quotes are available as needed...
1 posted on 03/10/2013 8:19:44 AM PDT by BroJoeK
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2 posted on 03/10/2013 8:26:34 AM PDT by Dysart
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You’re a brave man. The replies should be interesting. I’ve always thought the Secession declarations were pretty damning.


3 posted on 03/10/2013 8:26:55 AM PDT by I Shall Endure
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4 posted on 03/10/2013 8:30:45 AM PDT by humblegunner
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I am not interested in re-fighting the first American Civil War.
I am not interested in discussing the slavery of black Americans.

I will say this: States Rights are an important concept. Somewhere along the line, the federal government decided that it was everybody's boss, and that is a shame.

5 posted on 03/10/2013 8:32:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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+1


6 posted on 03/10/2013 8:33:09 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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I can’t see that this is the entire story. It doesn’t fit with all the things that were going on at the time and this is a bad rap on the South.


7 posted on 03/10/2013 8:33:35 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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lol Did you get up this morning, and just feel like starting a fight?

This thread is gonna be a good one! lol


8 posted on 03/10/2013 8:37:55 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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Whatever the reasons, there is no doubt that the formation of the Confederacy was once the greatest domestic threat to the well being of the United States. Today the greatest threat is the Democratic Party.


9 posted on 03/10/2013 8:41:28 AM PDT by allendale
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Talk about being PC, the South wouldn’t allow the presence of abolitionist literature, c.f. the trial of Reuben Crandall, M.D. in the District of Columbia.


10 posted on 03/10/2013 8:43:44 AM PDT by kenavi (Lost the country? Win your state.)
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Thoughts of the time.


12 posted on 03/10/2013 8:44:34 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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13 posted on 03/10/2013 8:46:28 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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we will try to get it right this time....

....actually I look toward the Declaration of Independence(no, you are right, it is not a current legal document) to determine the best way to protect the most important aspects of the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights.

no statement on secession is necessary in the constitution, if you have reached the point to reissue the Declaration of Independence.

MOLON LABE!!


14 posted on 03/10/2013 8:46:44 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Someone please show me the official documents or discussions concerning doing away with slavery that caused the south to succeed. The south did not just leave the union because of slavery.


15 posted on 03/10/2013 8:46:46 AM PDT by Ecliptic (.)
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Pennsylvania?

OK

It is silly to refight a bloody war when we are facing the biggest threat to the survival of the nation. Obozo and his band of Marxists are that threat.

One of my ancestors was born in TX during the Republic. Others came to Texas because they were burned out of AL during Reconstruction for resisting abuse of Federal occupation. They voted with their feet and went GTT (Gone to Texas).

Sam Houston refused to take Texas out of the Union during the Civil War and was reidiculed for doing so.

But if you think that blink obediance to the current Rogue Federal Government is the solution, YOU ARE WRONG.

Do you own guns? We do. And they have a purpose higher than for hunting.


23 posted on 03/10/2013 8:53:54 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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Yankee defenders here used to be so much smarter. I’ve tangled with the best ones and this post is amateur.


28 posted on 03/10/2013 8:56:10 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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In this “list”, I don’t see where the UNFAIR TARIFFS or the opening of the flood gates to immigrants in the 1830’s were mentioned.

Oh, they were DISCONNECTED from the issue, right?

I think not. Northern industries found out that immigrants were cheaper than slaves, so they opened up the flood gates and let bunches in. You could pay them pennies a day and let THEM feed themselves, cloth themselves, house themselves, etc.etc.

But only after they loaded your “16 Tons.”


30 posted on 03/10/2013 9:01:11 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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In fact, neither out-going President Buchanan nor incoming President Lincoln did anything to stop secessionists from declaring independence and forming a new Confederacy. And Buchanan did nothing to stop secessionists from unlawfully seizing Federal properties or threatening and shooting at Federal officials. Nor did Lincoln, until after the Confederacy started war at Fort Sumter (April 12, 1861) and then formally declared war on the United States, May 6, 1861.

Moronic on its face. How does the Union "do nothing to stop independence" and yet still lay claim to military forts in South Carolina, and defend them with soldiers, months after South Carolina declared independence? This alone shows the list to be farcical at best.

31 posted on 03/10/2013 9:02:13 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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We are all slaves of the federal apparatus now
Honest Apes legacy is all around us
Cant wait to see it come crashing down
The 2nd American Republic will not allow universal suffrage and exclude territories occupied by marxists and large cities comprised of parasites


34 posted on 03/10/2013 9:04:11 AM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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Well, let’s not get wrapped up in a blanket of Yankee self-righteousness. We should remember that slavery existed in the North as well as in the South, and that there was still a small number of slaves in New Jersey as late as 1860.

You have to wonder why Yankees hold the South in such comtempt, yet continue to flood down here like locusts, bringing their destructive liberal ways with them and stripping the stores and delis of pastrami.

Oh, well. Southerners will do what we always do when confronted with Yankees who think they know it all. We’ll laugh at you and make fun of you behind your backs.


35 posted on 03/10/2013 9:05:12 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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I don’t agree with the conclusions of the author in 5,6 or 7. I believe the others are correct for the most part.


39 posted on 03/10/2013 9:08:35 AM PDT by dinoparty
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