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SF cops went all out retrieve stolen gun
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | March 10, 2013 | Phillip Matier and Andrew Ross

Posted on 03/10/2013 11:53:14 AM PDT by artichokegrower

San Francisco cops dodged a real bullet the other day when one of their AR-15 rifles wound up in the hands of an East Oakland gang after being stolen out of the trunk of an unmarked police car.

The prospect of a police semiautomatic rifle being used in a violent crime prompted a Code 3 response once officers discovered the theft last weekend South of Market.

Police Chief Greg Suhr immediately put out word to start questioning every street source they had.

"No resources were spared," Suhr said.

Asked exactly how they traced the rifle, the chief told us that "it wouldn't be in the best interest of future cases to give away trade secrets."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
From the article:

"Still, while as many as seven people were detained, there were no arrests - a clear sign, department insiders say, that they had a deal with somebody to get the weapon back with no questions asked."

So they had to buy the rifle back from the gang bangers? Great police work.

1 posted on 03/10/2013 11:53:14 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower
detained, there were no arrests

Interesting that kidnapping is not mentioned.

2 posted on 03/10/2013 12:05:03 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: BerryDingle

Looks like the universal background checks did their job again.

Again, for the radical left wing extremist demokkkrat scumbags. Point by point, how will any of the new laws proposed stop the bad guys? Crickets....... Smooth move difi. Your a real genius. NOT!


3 posted on 03/10/2013 12:09:59 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: artichokegrower

Either an extortion buyback or they simply traded for an AR that won’t trace back to the PD. Trade secret indeed.


4 posted on 03/10/2013 12:11:02 PM PDT by soycd
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To: artichokegrower

I would guess this AR-15 since it was a police weapon had a full auto option.


5 posted on 03/10/2013 12:12:35 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: artichokegrower

So they know where the gangs are, they know who has weapons, they could track, trace and retrieve one particular gun... ???

No one is arrested? No other guns or weapons are retrieved? No questions asked? Tomorrow is business as usual ?

Sound like a Tom and Jerry cartoon...


6 posted on 03/10/2013 12:17:26 PM PDT by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: artichokegrower
Well, maybe not exactly “buy,” but something close to it. I personally know of an unfortunate and not too bright young fed who lost his wallet, creds, gun, cuffs, and hand held radio, because of his inordinate fondness for high-priced call girls. One of them absconded with the goods after he fell asleep one night. Local PD put word out on the street to return everything before sundown, or face a major across the board crackdown. Further, ahem, negotiations led to a no questions asked resolution. The young fed was told to immediately seek employment elsewhere, and explain to the wife and kids why he let the little head to the thinking for the big head.
7 posted on 03/10/2013 12:18:10 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: artichokegrower

I wonder how many confidential informants and undercover officers were burned in the process of getting that weapon back.


8 posted on 03/10/2013 12:20:51 PM PDT by jz638
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Funny they cannot solve all of the crimes so easily, perhaps the priority makes a huge difference, The don’t set much priority on anything stolen from individuals.


9 posted on 03/10/2013 12:26:37 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: artichokegrower

And if it were my property that had been stolen? Would there be no resources spared?


10 posted on 03/10/2013 12:27:14 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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And if it were my property that had been stolen? Would there be no resources spared?

Yes, SFPD would use all their resources to search your home for what they consider contraband, (like cash, guns, jewelry) and they would confiscate said "contraband" in the hopes you can't get to a reasonable judge within ten days.

11 posted on 03/10/2013 12:43:40 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: zwerni

“Sound like a Tom and Jerry cartoon...”

Keystone Cops...


12 posted on 03/10/2013 12:56:56 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: PowderMonkey
That's almost as good as the Seinfeld episode when George is fleeced by a hooker after - thinking he was in for an afternoon of kink - allowing himself to be handcuffed to a bedpost.
13 posted on 03/10/2013 1:00:02 PM PDT by kitchen (Due to the increased price of ammo, do not expect a warning shot.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
And if it were my property that had been stolen? Would there be no resources spared?

No resources used would be more like it.

14 posted on 03/10/2013 1:11:15 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ThunderSleeps

Police carry/are armed for self-protection not yours. Police are under NO legal obligation to protect you or your property. They exist solely to enforce the laws. If within that enforcement duty they happen to protect you and yours then that would be a ‘benefit’. The police wanted that weapon returned mainly for THEIR protection and not necessarily the public’s. In the instance your property is stolen, no PAPER resources would be spared.


15 posted on 03/10/2013 1:11:56 PM PDT by yadent
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To: mosaicwolf

by def ar-15s are semi/auto. only m-16s are select fire.


16 posted on 03/10/2013 1:20:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

well by definition for those of us who know weapons.


17 posted on 03/10/2013 1:36:24 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”)
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To: artichokegrower

“it wouldn’t be in the best interest of future cases to give away trade secrets.”

Wouldn’t surprise me if it was chipped.


18 posted on 03/10/2013 1:49:06 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: artichokegrower

Some wit could cause great consternation by suggesting that the thieves didn’t steal *a* rifle, but a rifle rack full of rifles, that are still missing.


19 posted on 03/10/2013 2:12:43 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: bravo whiskey

To make it more confusing, the early AR-15s were select fire, before they changed the name to M16. The AR-15 name came back with the civilian semi version.


20 posted on 03/10/2013 2:19:44 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: mosaicwolf
I would guess this AR-15 since it was a police weapon had a full auto option.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. If it's full (or burst) capable it more than likely started as an M16. I've been given to understand that when Colt designed the AR-15 they intentionally designed the lower receiver with noninterchangeable dimensions in the area that holds the fire-control group (trigger, hammer, interrupter, auto sear, and selector). That insures that M-16 parts cannot be fitted to an AR-15, converting it to a select fire "assault rifle". The differences are in the diameters (and locations?) of mounting pins and the width and depth of a milled cavity in the receiver that holds the fire-control parts in position relative to the bolt. Even if you had the M16 parts, the conversion requires the re-machining of the lower receiver which cannot be done on a kitchen table.

Regards,
GtG

PS Any attempt at converting an AR-15 to select fire by person or persons unlicensed to "manufacture" NFA Class III items will result to heavy fines and a Federal felony conviction with a long stay at the crowbar hotel.

21 posted on 03/10/2013 4:20:56 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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