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Suburbs secede from Atlanta
WorldNetDaily ^ | Mar 10, 2013 | John T. Bennett

Posted on 03/10/2013 5:07:48 PM PDT by wesagain

As Detroit – beset by violence, debt and social woes – prepares to undergo a historic takeover by the Michigan state government, the city of Atlanta could be sliding toward a similar fate.

Some are quietly wondering whether Atlanta is in danger of becoming “the Detroit of the South.”

The city has experienced an ongoing succession of government scandals, ranging from a massive cheating racket to corruption, bribery, school-board incompetence and now the potential loss of accreditation for the local DeKalb County school system.

For several years, problems of this sort have fueled political reforms, including the creation of new cities in northern Atlanta suburbs. Due to the intensification of corruption scandals in DeKalb, some state-level reform proposals could become national news very soon.

‘Super-white majority’ cities

As a result of the unsavory politics in urban Atlanta, northern suburban communities acted to distance themselves. Beginning in 2005, many communities began the process of incorporating into cities.

Thus far, Milton, Sandy Springs, Brookhaven, Dunwoody, Chattahoochee Hills and Johns Creek have done so.

These cities, after breaking away politically from urban Atlanta, have become so successful that a libertarian think tank, the Reason Foundation, has featured Sandy Springs as a model of effective government. The Economist has also applauded the northern Atlanta cities for solving the problem of unfunded government pension liability and avoiding the bankruptcy that looms over some urban areas. The new cities may soon be able to create their own school districts, which would free them even further from the issues besetting Atlanta.

While incorporation has been popular with residents of the new cities, not all of Atlanta is as satisfied........

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: atlanta; detroit; racistblacks
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1 posted on 03/10/2013 5:07:48 PM PDT by wesagain
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To: wesagain

Every city is going to become Detroit, eventually. Just a matter of “when.”


2 posted on 03/10/2013 5:08:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Even cities with less than 50,000 inhabitants are becoming hellholes with big city problems.


3 posted on 03/10/2013 5:12:27 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: wesagain

The feds, either through regulation and or by the courts will stop the breakaway cities dead in their tracks as soon as it becomes clear that race is a factor in the continual failure of inner city Atlanta. Count on it.....


4 posted on 03/10/2013 5:14:45 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: dfwgator

I’ve been saying it all along. Lots of cities are racking up incredible debts with every intent that the feds will bail them out in the end.


5 posted on 03/10/2013 5:18:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: KoRn

You may be correct...good point.


6 posted on 03/10/2013 5:19:43 PM PDT by Enten (I don't have islamophobia...I do have islamonausea)
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To: wesagain

If only the collectivists could find a way to avoid the law of sowing and reaping.


7 posted on 03/10/2013 5:23:41 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Enten

But it will not work. This will only spur a revolt sooner than later.


8 posted on 03/10/2013 5:28:07 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: wesagain

Many years ago Atlanta’s Black Police Chief was caught giving the answers to questions on the promotion exam to the Black cops.

Nothing was ever done about it.


9 posted on 03/10/2013 5:28:28 PM PDT by yarddog (Per Ardua Ad Alta.)
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To: lurk

...or supply and demand, or unintended consequences, or the need for profit, or any number of other realities that collectivists ignore....


10 posted on 03/10/2013 5:28:57 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: wesagain

All due to DummyRats.


11 posted on 03/10/2013 5:30:52 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: KoRn
Somewhere I read that the Feds do have an issue with this.

President Obama’s plans for a second-term include an initiative to systematically redistribute the wealth of America’s suburbs to the cities. It’s a transformative idea, and deserves to be fully aired before the election. But like a lot of his major progressive policy innovations, Obama has advanced this one stealthily–mostly through rule-making, appointment, and vague directives. Obama has worked on this project in collaboration with Mike Kruglik, one of his original community organizing mentors. Kruglik’s new group, Building One America, advocates “regional tax-base sharing,” a practice by which suburban tax money is directly redistributed to nearby cities and less-well-off “inner-ring” suburbs.

Read more: How Obama Is Robbing The Suburbs To Pay For The Cities

12 posted on 03/10/2013 5:34:21 PM PDT by EBH ( American citizens do not negotiate with political terrorists.)
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To: wesagain

“So when you allow powerful groups of citizens to opt out of a social contract, and form their own, it may benefit the group opting out, but it hurts the larger collective,” he said.”

So basically we’re running out of “hosts” for the remaining parasites?


13 posted on 03/10/2013 5:37:42 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: dfwgator

What was that....Atlanta is a chocolate city. Doesn’t Detriot have the same basic persuasion.

Could it be cultural and political ?


14 posted on 03/10/2013 5:39:51 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: dfwgator
Move the airports back to the inner cities....
Tear down the old rat traps to build green buffer zones
between any new residential or business development
15 posted on 03/10/2013 5:39:55 PM PDT by Average Al
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To: listenhillary

See the link I posted up thread.

How Obama Is Robbing The Suburbs To Pay For The Cities


16 posted on 03/10/2013 5:42:30 PM PDT by EBH ( American citizens do not negotiate with political terrorists.)
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To: listenhillary

Good “translation.”


17 posted on 03/10/2013 5:43:48 PM PDT by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: lurk

“Like”


18 posted on 03/10/2013 5:44:49 PM PDT by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: dfwgator

Makes me just want to pack up and move to Cracklanta. Not!


19 posted on 03/10/2013 5:45:12 PM PDT by GoldwaterCountry (Viva Reagan Revolucion!)
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To: wesagain
When progressives run something they will run it into the ground.
20 posted on 03/10/2013 5:46:58 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH ((Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The progressives Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodie)
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To: GoldwaterCountry

I moved out of Atlanta a few years ago right when this process was getting underway.

All I remember where the incessant cries of racism from the Atlanta politicians.


21 posted on 03/10/2013 5:47:50 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: All
Building One America

An 0bama initiative. And here are its goals: Goals

22 posted on 03/10/2013 5:48:12 PM PDT by EBH ( American citizens do not negotiate with political terrorists.)
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To: dfwgator

“Every city is going to become Detroit, eventually. Just a matter of “when.””

And the ones that are being “run” by Blacks are already in overdrive to get there. The overspending is bad enough, but when you read the complete article, it reads just like the scenario in Detroit with all the corruption and thievery! The Black Community is in desperate need of more Ben Carsons and Allen Wests. That these amazing individuals were able to evade the “norms” in their “community” proves there is a way.


23 posted on 03/10/2013 5:57:21 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: yarddog

that’s where the atlanta school superintendent got the idea from!


24 posted on 03/10/2013 6:04:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: KoRn

And my question to you then is, how they gonna stop it? Come in and arrest people? Take money away? Turn off utilities? These decisions have no backbone if there are not people who can enforce them. The decisions are simply out there waiting to be enforced in some way. If you have a city of thousands, even hundreds, how will they enforce it?


25 posted on 03/10/2013 6:10:26 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: wesagain

Sandy Springs is a great success story.

If you look at a map of Fulton County (which contains the bulk of the city of Atlanta), it’s a weirdly-shaped area...sort of like a lopsided dumbbell with broad areas in the north and south and a narrow central “neck.” The city of Atlanta takes up that central neck and a chunk of the southern end of the county. The northern end contains a number of what used to be unincorporated areas and a few fairly well-off suburban cities (like Roswell and Alpharetta). The northern end of Fulton County is by far the more successful and affluent area when you compare it to the bulk of ATL proper and the other areas of southern Fulton. Significant portions of southern Fulton even outside the Atlanta city limits are pretty much Fallujah with extra melanin.

So naturally the Powers That Be in the ATL fought like wildcats to keep northern Fulton County in place because they were able to milk tax money out of affluent, successful, largely white North Fulton to pay for pet projects in poorer, largely black South Fulton. The folks in the northern Fulton suburbs were getting robbed for decades and until the GOP took over the Georgia legislature, nothing was done about it. Now that all the unincorporated areas in North Fulton have become individual cities, they don’t get as much tax money anymore.

And it could get better yet. The reason Fulton is so weirdly shaped is that it’s actually a merging of three counties back in 1932—Fulton, Milton, and Campbell. The northern part of Fulton County is agitating to the Georgia legislature to let them completely break away and re-form Milton County. If they do that, Fulton County’s golden goose is cooked and it really will be Detroit with better weather.

}:-)4


26 posted on 03/10/2013 6:16:15 PM PDT by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: wesagain

A more fundamental question, is in this day and age, do we still need cities? Can we essentially have spread out areas of medium-sized communities, without the need for a mega-sized hub city? Maybe in the past it made sense, but with technological advances, that old model has become obsolete.


27 posted on 03/10/2013 6:17:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SgtHooper

Building One America News
BOA Policy Committee meets with the White House Office of Intergovernmental Affairs and Domestic Policy Council to seek more support for diverse middle class suburbs

https://buildingoneamerica.org/news

David Rusk is the immediate past president and the founding president of the Building One America.

The Congressional Quarterly has called David Rusk’s Cities without Suburbs “the Bible of the regionalism movement.” “A must read for all practicing local government officials, elected or appointed,” said the Government Finance Review of Rusk’s Inside Game/Outside Game.


28 posted on 03/10/2013 6:19:35 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: KoRn

>> “as soon as it becomes clear that race is a factor in the continual failure of inner city Atlanta.” <<

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The racial and political nature of every big city’s problems has been apparent for 60 years or more. I can remember when the educated blacks began to join the whites in vacating Oakland, and moving to Walnut Creek and Concord in the early ‘50s.

Only the wacko leftie whites and the blacks that were just too poor to move out stayed in their co-dependant cesspool at the ‘wrong’ end of the Bay Bridge.


29 posted on 03/10/2013 6:23:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

For years Atlanta was held up as a model black city with a successful professional class. What happened?


30 posted on 03/10/2013 6:29:51 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: wesagain

There are some very good Black leaders and administrations in this country.


31 posted on 03/10/2013 6:30:17 PM PDT by HChampagne
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To: wesagain

What difference does it make? Those people who voted for Atlanta idiots and made it what it has become are moving into the suburbs and demanding more “diversity” in every facet of government and schools so they can make us into another corrupt place to live.


32 posted on 03/10/2013 6:30:35 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: HChampagne

Care to list them?


33 posted on 03/10/2013 6:31:05 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wesagain
“So when you allow powerful groups of citizens to opt out of a social contract, and form their own, it may benefit the group opting out, but it hurts the larger collective,” he said

Spoken like a true Democrat party communist.
And like the rest of them, he doesn't want to be identified.

34 posted on 03/10/2013 6:36:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: C. Edmund Wright

When combined with all of the other usurpation of our rights, state and federal,you too may be correct.


35 posted on 03/10/2013 6:39:08 PM PDT by Enten (I don't have islamophobia...I do have islamonausea)
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To: wesagain
This is such good news, I can't stand it!
Finally, the hosts are pinching off the parasites like ticks.

I hope other suburbs that are similarly held hostage by large, concentrated Democrat parasite nests ("cities") around the nation will take note of what the suburbs surrounding Atlanta are doing.

News like this gives me hope that America may be able to rise from the dead.

36 posted on 03/10/2013 6:40:57 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ilovesarah2012

The pols decided that the primary purpose of the Government was to serve as a jobs program.


37 posted on 03/10/2013 6:41:57 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: KoRn

Correct-amundo!


38 posted on 03/10/2013 6:42:21 PM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: ilovesarah2012
For years Atlanta was held up as a model black city with a successful professional class.

Who held it up? Oh, that's right... the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms.

What happened?

See: Zimbabwe; South Africa; virtually any concentrated Democrat parasite nest ("city") in America.

39 posted on 03/10/2013 6:45:33 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: wesagain

All they’ve got to do is send Jimmy and Rosalyn in as troubleshooters, and all the woes will be declared solved.


40 posted on 03/10/2013 6:47:23 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: cripplecreek
Lots of cities are racking up incredible debts with every intent that the feds will bail them out in the end.

I think the states bailed out will by NY, CA, and IL.

Those are the "blue base" of electoral votes.

Likely before the next POTUS election you'll see a federal guarantee for their state bonds.

41 posted on 03/10/2013 6:48:13 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: wesagain

Racist blacks are reaping
what they have sown.

Segregated plantation hell holes.


42 posted on 03/10/2013 6:56:13 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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bump


43 posted on 03/10/2013 7:13:53 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: dfwgator

I thought that with the rise of video conferencing and IT advancements, we would no longer need to import workers from foreign lands. We see how that’s worked out.


44 posted on 03/10/2013 7:15:38 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: SgtHooper

Dem bureaucrats/regulators along with liberal lawyers and judges can get VERY creative in their ‘remedies’ to ‘problems’.


45 posted on 03/10/2013 7:28:46 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Tea Party Terrorist; GoldwaterCountry

Oh no!!! We used to live in Marietta 20 some years ago, but due to job opportunities, we relocated to the Midwest. Now job opportunities may bring us back to the greater Atlanta area.

Does anyone here know how things are going in the suburbs south of Atlanta, specifically Jonesboro and Stockbridge areas?


46 posted on 03/10/2013 7:50:37 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

Jonesboro/Clayton County is THE most Democrat county in the state of Georgia. Voted 85% for Zero. It’s more Black and Dem than Atlanta. (In 2000, it was voting 30% GOP, and in ‘12 slipped below 15%, so the “producers” are voting with their feet).

Stockbridge/Henry County is still slightly GOP leaning (just 51%), but because it neighbors Clayton, the Democrat voters are flooding over and will probably be narrowly Dem by 2016. In 2000, it was voting 67% GOP.


47 posted on 03/10/2013 8:07:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: dfwgator

A more fundamental question, is in this day and age, do we still need cities? Can we essentially have spread out areas of medium-sized communities, without the need for a mega-sized hub city? Maybe in the past it made sense, but with technological advances, that old model has become obsolete.
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Good observation. ...Just consider the DFW Metroplex which consists of all or part of five counties, has major cities of Dallas, Ft. Worth and Denton, plus dozens (or hundreds) of other incorporated cities/towns. The light rail system continues to expand and the area is rife with freeways. Dallas is the only one of those cities that’s in danger of becoming another Atlanta because of its liberal politics and minorities majority in the populace.


48 posted on 03/10/2013 8:13:06 PM PDT by octex
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To: wesagain

What happened to the “Hotlanta” of the 70s? *snicker*


49 posted on 03/10/2013 8:16:08 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Thanks for the info. Where we are now, it is slightly more D than R, but close to 50/50. We will proceed with caution before settling on an area to live in, thanks to your input.


50 posted on 03/10/2013 8:28:35 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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