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Washington Post: Rand Paul will be a major player in 2016
Washington Post ^ | 03/10/2013 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 03/10/2013 5:39:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Rand Paul is the hottest commodity in Republican Party politics right now. But how high can he rise?

We put that question to a wide cross section of veteran Republican hands in the wake of the Kentucky Republican’s filibuster of John Brennan’s confirmation as CIA director last week and got a nearly unanimous response: Paul is already a national leader within the party and will be a major factor if (but really when) he runs for president in 2016.

“The filibuster is the single largest leap I can recall from one act,” said Dave Carney, a New Hampshire-based GOP strategist who served as a senior adviser for Rick Perry’s 2012 presidential bid. “The old guard’s gratuitous and meaningless tantrum attack the next day further solidified his sole position as leader of the new right.” (In the wake of the Paul filibuster, Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina defended the Obama administration’s stance on drones.)

Paul demonstrated two very important political traits during the filibuster:

1. He is a person of principle, taking a stand on an issue (drones) that almost no one cares about.

2. Paul has a showman’s sense of the moment, a rare and underrated ability in politics. “He is a PR machine who has an uncanny ability to galvanize the conservative base,” acknowledged one establishment Senate insider granted anonymity to speak candidly. (If you need evidence of that trait, look at how Paul kept chatter about the filibuster going; he did a series of television appearances and penned an op-ed explaining himself on the front page of The Post’s Outlook section Sunday.)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016gopprimary; paul2016; randpaul; standwithrand

1 posted on 03/10/2013 5:39:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
“He is a PR machine who has an uncanny ability to galvanize the conservative base,”

Like when he votes for Chuck Hagel. I need to see more, and a willingness to recant his statement on social issues in the Republican Party, before I'd go all-in for him.

2 posted on 03/10/2013 5:47:49 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

BUT NO MORE bushes!! not after “wmd”.


3 posted on 03/10/2013 5:51:40 PM PDT by willardwx
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To: SeekAndFind

Paul can yak and yak but his vote for Hagel is a problem


4 posted on 03/10/2013 5:51:47 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Frankly, I still don’t trust him.


5 posted on 03/10/2013 5:54:08 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SeekAndFind

Christie and Rove will work with the NYTimes to hurt Rand.


6 posted on 03/10/2013 5:54:09 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We have the nation we deserve.I predict FR will hate GOP Candidate for 2016,2020,2024,2028, 2032...)
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To: willardwx

The creation of the DHS is enough to ensure W’s place along side FDR.


7 posted on 03/10/2013 5:55:41 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We have the nation we deserve.I predict FR will hate GOP Candidate for 2016,2020,2024,2028, 2032...)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Hip, hip, hooray for Rand Paul! He is despised by the GOPe, Rove and the RINOS. AFAIC, the perfect position to be in. Mr. Cojones. Just what we need to lead.

Now, where do we find a bunch more just like him? Let’s take it back.


8 posted on 03/10/2013 6:01:06 PM PDT by upchuck (Waiting, hoping, begging for the straw. Time to bring pent up frustration to fruition.)
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To: NoLibZone

DHS needs to get those light armored personnel carriers up to Detroit real soon and start killing those that will soon be rioting for food.and Cleveland, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Houston. It will be real bad there . Good hunting Big Sis!!


9 posted on 03/10/2013 6:01:48 PM PDT by willardwx
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To: SeekAndFind

IMO, Rand Paul may have already made himself the leader of the GOP. There has been a huge void for years, and this week, he FILLED it quite nicely. If he follows up on this with something, he will be in the driver’s seat.

The ‘Neocons’ had best run and hide.


10 posted on 03/10/2013 6:05:42 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SeekAndFind
I think he recognizes that the two party system today is Dim and Dim lite..he sees Dim and Liberaltarian as an alternative.

Conservative talk about forming a separate party is fast becoming moot, soon Conservatives will have no place to go as the GOP will be Libertarian if folks like Rand are successful...

11 posted on 03/10/2013 6:09:21 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: KoRn

We have been leaderless for too long. He connected with people because he believed what he was saying, it wasn’t just politics. Hopefully other Conservatives will be encouraged to follow suit.


12 posted on 03/10/2013 6:14:05 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: SeekAndFind

CNN, other liberal/left news outfits, then the Washington Post? They must have really liked Paul’s vote for Hagel.


13 posted on 03/10/2013 6:20:53 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rand Paul Explains His Surprise Vote For Chuck Hagel (1 of only 4 Republicans to vote for)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2991511/posts


14 posted on 03/10/2013 6:23:00 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: KoRn

No, just made himself a ‘voice’ of the Party- cutting into Linsey and McCain’s talk show tine... and boy did they resent that.

If he boosts House and Senate candidates in 2014 he’ll be the leader.

NYTimes trying to triangulate him this soon is a good sign though.


15 posted on 03/10/2013 6:25:22 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: upchuck
http://townhall.com/columnists/stevedeace/2013/02/16/title-n1511809

Now it appears Rand Paul is going to the left of Rubio on this issue if you read his column in The Washington Times.

Rand refers to illegal aliens as "undocumented citizens" in the first sentence of the fifth paragraph, which is overly gracious wording not even the liberal media uses. Rand says Rubio's plan for fines and penalties for those who came here illegally as a means of making restitution is too harsh because many of them "are poor and may not be able to ever pay ten years of back payroll taxes. I would be willing to forego the fines and back taxes in exchange for a longer and significant time period before these folks are eligible to enter into the green card line." Rand never says who's going to be paying for those people that wait even longer for amnesty.

Rand says he would "normalize" illegals (aka amnesty) at a rate of two million per year, beginning with what he refers to as "Dream Act kids." I remember hearing from many Ron Paul people who criticized Mike Huckabee during the 2008 Iowa Caucuses because he was too soft on the illegal immigration issue. I wonder what those same people think after reading this? At least Rand was smart enough to write it in a conservative newspaper, and not pose for a photo-op with two liberals and the ultimate RINO as Rubio did.

16 posted on 03/10/2013 6:27:23 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: SeekAndFind
“He is a PR machine who has an uncanny ability to galvanize the conservative base,”

Whether valid or not, I think that uncanny ability stems from the sense people of the conservative base have that he's not a "PR machine", but rather comes across as genuinely believing the principled stance he is taking.

17 posted on 03/10/2013 6:30:54 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rand Paul’s foreign policy is a problem. He’s an isolationist and no friend of Israel. I expect Dick Cheney to weigh in forcefully in the coming months.


18 posted on 03/10/2013 6:35:12 PM PDT by balch3
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To: SeekAndFind

Here we go again. Theatrics winning GOP hearts. Or GOPe setting up golden boy?


19 posted on 03/10/2013 6:39:08 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Yes, that is one of my concerns about Rand.

2016 outlook.

Jeb--Amnesty
Rubio--Amnesty
Rand--Amnesty

Joy.

20 posted on 03/10/2013 6:53:12 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

I doubt we’ll find the perfect candidate. There has never been one previously. If we conservatives don’t drop some of the contentiousness amongst us and support the nominee with the best chance of defeating the leftist candidate, we are going to keep slipping farther and farther behind.


21 posted on 03/10/2013 6:59:20 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

That’s going to be a problem. He needs to understand the costs associated with granting amnesty. It will be huge.


22 posted on 03/10/2013 7:15:17 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Alaska Wolf

Every election is a step back.


23 posted on 03/10/2013 7:19:13 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria
Every election is a step back.

I have to disagree. Remember we had Carter and if the country manages to survive this Obozo term, another step back would surely finish us.

24 posted on 03/10/2013 7:25:00 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Exactly. Look what occurred in last year’s GOP primaries with Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum. Both men were far more conservative than Mitt Romney and look what happened. We spent so much time bitching and complaining that they had less than one hundred percent conservative voting records in congress and as a result we failed to coalesce behind one of them and split their votes thus giving Romney the nomination. Please, I’m tired of conservatives whining about the establishment and that there is little we can do against them when we’re the ones who keep the circular firing squad in continuous motion and then left wondering why we ended up with two terms of this president.


25 posted on 03/10/2013 7:33:37 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: balch3

Given that:

a) we’re out of money,
b) we’re borrowing money at a torrid rate from ... thin air (thank the Fed), and this isn’t sustainable,
c) our foreign policy in the middle east makes less than no sense,
d) there’s nothing written in the Constitution that we have to be friends with Israel, and my take on the matter is increasingly “what have they ever done for us?” - I see no problem just treating Israel as we would any other nation....

what’s the problem with Paul’s foreign policy?


26 posted on 03/10/2013 7:33:38 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Alaska Wolf

I agree.

The first thing we have to do is return to old-school conservatism, which means that we engage in much less of this stupid foreign adventurism. None of Bush’s foreign adventures have turned out as predicted by all the eggheads in DC... these engagements have been hugely expensive, with nothing to show for it but more instability and more chaos that we can’t manage.

It’s time for the GOP to start attending to matters at home, and cease trying to claim that they have the answers in foreign policy... which is abundantly clear at this point that they don’t.


27 posted on 03/10/2013 7:36:15 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: dowcaet

I don’t think it was a matter of their stances on the issues....the problem was that none of the candidates really separated themselves from all of the others....each had their good points, and each had their flaws....but there was not a clear-cut advantage from neither of them...so that made it difficult for one of them to break away.


28 posted on 03/10/2013 7:39:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dowcaet
we failed to coalesce behind one of them and split their votes thus giving Romney the nomination.

Then rather than supporting Romney, many so called Patriotic conservatives decided to allow Obozo to have four more years to destroy the USA. It is senseless. The libs circle the wagons around their candidates and conservatives cut off their nose to spite their face.

29 posted on 03/10/2013 7:43:01 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: NVDave
It’s time for the GOP to start attending to matters at home, and cease trying to claim that they have the answers in foreign policy.

Is there an answer or solution to Islamofascism?

30 posted on 03/10/2013 7:53:07 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Washington Post:Rand Paul will be a major player in 2016,

Colonel_Flagg wrote

“Like when he votes for Chuck Hagel. I need to see more, and a willingness to recant his statement on social issues in the Republican Party, before I’d go all-in for him.”

Let’s give the man his due. The filibuster was a badly needed smackdown and showed the Obama b/s Vichy colaborators din din for what it was. He did set that offensive back
But I share your concern. Despite his “galvanic” attributions comming from all places, Walpo, which that in itself should tell you something 2016 is still 4 years away. Frankly I think they see him as more divisive than the GOPES. That earlier what’s wrong with the GOP address showed me that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Let US remember when you “galvanize” something. You dip your product into a tankfull of another material and turn on the juice. What you put into that tank gets lightly coated by that other stuff when electrically charged and changes its appearance. Lots of times no matter what that product gets coated with it’s still a piece of junk no matter how nice it looks.


31 posted on 03/10/2013 7:53:56 PM PDT by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Thank you. We fail to see that the Democrats are our enemy! Instead, we rotate that machine gun 360 degrees and mow down our own. Rand Paul, at heart, is a libertarian, but he did something that was noble and finally showed that somebody in the Republican Party has a pulse. Yet instead of congratulating him some on our side are already bashing him for not being a true conservative and worrying that he’s not ideologically pure enough to run in 2016. Gees, if I’m a Democrat I would read these chat rooms and be confident that the GOP is eating its own and they’re doing all of our work for us.


32 posted on 03/10/2013 8:03:35 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: dowcaet
Rand Paul, at heart, is a libertarian, but he did something that was noble

Rand also voted to confirm Hagel and Kerry........AND

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rand-paul-fires-back-at-filibuster-critics-shocks-glenn-beck-with-revelation-he-may-vote-for-brennan/

When asked whether he planned to vote for John Brennan as CIA director, now that the filibuster is over, Paul shocked Beck by saying he will “give deference” to nominees he disagrees with for political purposes — i.e., he might end up voting for Brennan if he gets a sufficient response from the administration today.

“I won’t vote for him on any of the votes if I don’t get information from the White House saying they’re going to adhere to the Constitution,” he said. Beck and his co-hosts winced at Paul’s suggestion, claiming that Brennan is simply “dangerous” and should not be confirmed for the CIA post no matter what. The senator agreed that Brennan would not fill the position well, but reiterated that his main goal was to get a clear constitutional answer from the administration regarding targeted assassinations.

Many of the same people who were so critical of Romney give Paul a pass.

33 posted on 03/10/2013 8:14:14 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: SeekAndFind

How can the same guy who ran Ron Paul’s 2012 presidential campaign, also run McConnell’s 2014 campaign?


34 posted on 03/10/2013 8:20:34 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Yes, there is, but neither the likes of McCain or the Ivy League eggheads that run the DNC will admit it.

That is to kill enough Muslims to the point where they realize that antagonizing Americans was a Really Bad Idea.

Much as we made the point to Japan - the last suicidal aggressor that we faced. The Japanese high command thought that they were going to hurt us *even after we dropped the second a-bomb.* The saving grace for the Japanese was that everyone else in Japan was by then convinced of our overwhelming superiority and ability to kill vast numbers of Japanese without placing in danger even two dozen men. In reading the history of the end of the war in Japan, it becomes pretty clear that the civilian population of Japan, which had been shielded from the consequences of their leadership’s action, got a rude wake-up call in the firebombing of Tokyo. The subsequent firebombing raids really started to turn public opinion... but these raids took hundreds upon hundreds of planes to pull off, and we lost more than a few B-29’s and P-51’s in these raids.

The hammer that finished driving home the nail into the brains of the civilian population was the mathematics of three planes in each of the a-bomb missions... coupled with 10’s of thousands killed in an instant, large cities utterly destroyed by one bomb... and the civilian opinion of Japanese invincibility finished shifting to an extreme fear of what the Americans could and would do.

The same thing has to be done to the suicidal mentality of the Islamists: The wholesale slaughter of huge numbers of Muslims with industrial ease. After we’ve killed a a couple million to a couple dozen million, the light bulb will go on in the heads of Muslims who support the extremists (like the Salafists, the MB’s, et al) and they’ll say “Brother Mustafa, we aren’t going to re-establish the caliphate. It just isn’t going to happen. The world has moved on. We’re going to have to figure out something new.”

The clue for me was seeing the reaction to the killing of OBL: Quite muted. We’ve seen riots in the streets for cartoons... yet when we sent in a crushing mission force, killed people with no screwing around, violated national sovereignty without so much as a passing apology, etc... we see not a peep out of the “Arab Street.” The Arab world respects brute force. That’s the only thing they respect. Halfway measures and attempts to apply modern western ROE to spare civilian casualties afford us no advantage whatsoever.

No one in DC is ready to admit this at this time. So let’s quit pissing money away on halfway measures and stalling tactics and put our resources into getting our industrial economy going again so we have the wherewithal to go to a complete war footing in the future... when we’ll quite likely need to do so.


35 posted on 03/10/2013 8:23:36 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
kill enough Muslims to the point where they realize that antagonizing Americans was a Really Bad Idea.

I agree. It should have been done in Korea and Vietnam also but bleeding heart liberals, many Christians and pacifists would fight any attempt.

36 posted on 03/10/2013 8:32:04 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: SeekAndFind

they are4 already destroyign him- even hte right is turning on him


37 posted on 03/10/2013 9:13:56 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s up with his hair?


38 posted on 03/11/2013 11:33:15 AM PDT by privatedrive
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To: Colonel_Flagg

He’s also pro-amnesty.


39 posted on 03/11/2013 11:44:28 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Theoria

This issue is that if Congress passes amnesty this spring, as they intend, it’ll effectively be off the table for 2014, 2016 and beyond. The GOP will also be a perpetual minority party.

Still, if somehow we could put enough pressure on our Congresscritters and delay its passage, there’d be an opportunity for a genuine, enforce-the-law, anti-amnesty candidate. But who shall that be? Palin, unfortunately, has always said she’s with McCain on illegal immigration, and she’s said nothing of it now that it’s stirring toward passage.


40 posted on 03/11/2013 11:48:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: NVDave
"what’s the problem with Paul’s foreign policy? "

I think he puts American interests before all others and some don't like that.

41 posted on 03/11/2013 11:53:33 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ex-snook

That’s my foreign policy too, so I guess the neo-cons have a problem with me as well.


42 posted on 03/11/2013 10:05:22 PM PDT by NVDave
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