N.J. Mother Arrested, Guns Confiscated- By Attending Property Tax Dispute Forum

http://www.examiner.com/article/n-j-mother-arrested-guns-confiscated-by-attending-property-tax-dispute-forum ^

[My Favorite Headache]

Where on Earth did the USA of 1980-1992 go? I mean it completely vanished it seems the night Al Gore took his concession back from George W Bush.

[sport]

The speaking up ship has long since sailed.

[noinfringers2]

Reminds me of a recent personal situation. My son gave me a very good pellet rifle for birthday present. We have a wide backyard easy for a 25 yd target range. I set up an enclosed big box target very well backed with a thin steel plate and 2 inch concrete blocks. All this against the wooden fence. I checked the internet for any regs as to shooting the rifle in my back yard. The only applicable regs that might apply concerned after reasonable hours. I called the police department and asked them about regs and was told I only could not be a nuisance to my neighbors. On one day my wife comes to me in the backyard and says two policepersons were at the door because a neighbor said I was killing birds. I showed the police my target setup and was advised by a young ‘look at me’ cop that I was in violation of code. We didn’t hassle. Luckily I have a place in the mountains where I can use my birthday gift.

[PapaBear3625]

If someone called the police and claimed John Smith made terroristic threat at a town meeting, should police arrest John Smith without determining if John Smith made any terroristic threats at a town meeting?

I would guess that the police would not show up in force like that if some unknown, anonymous person made the call. I'm guessing some official at the meeting made the call, and the the identity of the caller will be missing from the police report.

[Durus]

So if some petty town official gets upset that some peasant dared to question them in a town meeting they can call the cops and have them arrested by claiming they made terroristic threats? Remember that they left the town meeting, went home, and cops were there waiting for them. There is no way cops got enough statements from people involved to determine if there was grounds for an arrest.

I don't know for a fact what happened here, but the facts in the articles are damning if true. Heads should roll. I mean that euphemistically of course. If I were suggesting violence against petty bureaucrats on a power trip I think tarring and feathering has been demonstrated as a good place to start.

[PapaBear3625]

So if some petty town official gets upset that some peasant dared to question them in a town meeting they can call the cops and have them arrested by claiming they made terroristic threats? Remember that they left the town meeting, went home, and cops were there waiting for them.

The interesting part is that to get from Clayton (where the meeting was) to the neighboring town of Franklinville, NJ is at most 4 miles. Figure at most 10 minutes. In that 10 minutes, somebody called the police, they looked up her license, got her home address, dispatched the cops, and five cop cars arrived. That's pretty prompt service.

I doubt a call from some nobody private citizen would have gotten that level of response.

[old and tired]

The interesting part is that to get from Clayton (where the meeting was) to the neighboring town of Franklinville, NJ is at most 4 miles.

Nah, that's life in the urbanized northeastern suburbs of the United States. The few times we've called the cops over the last few decades, there was an officer at my home under a minute. And at least two backups in under three. The one thing our high taxes do get is an extremely responsive police force.

I remember one time my wife called 911 because some guy was parked in front of our house for an hour. Just sitting in his car, minding his own business. But my wife thought he might be staking out somebody's home so she called. 911 here goes to a central dispatch. In under a minute, the cops from our local township called her. Told her the car was a fleet vehicle for xyz company. They'd have one of their cops drive by just to talk to him, but they expected he was just a salesman who'd found a quiet street to do some work.