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Boy Scouts asking for input on gay membership
LSN ^ | Ben Johnson

Posted on 03/11/2013 7:38:38 PM PDT by Morgana

IRVING, TX, March 11, 2013, (LifeSiteNews.com) – The Boy Scouts of America are asking for citizens across the country to express their opinion about the BSA's policy barring open homosexuals from joining the group as members or scoutmasters.

In a tiny link at the top of their website, the Scouts announced their review of the policy. A second link simply asks readers, “Share your feedback.”

Last July, the 100-year-old outdoor group announced it would maintain its moral standards for members and leaders. However, in January the national scouting organization bowed to pressure to reconsider the policy.

A decision was expected last month. However, roughly 20 percent of the youth members' councils asked for the decision to be delayed until May, when 1,400 members can vote at their upcoming meeting in Grapevine, Texas.

The BSA issued a statement at the time saying “due to the complexity of this issue, the organization needs time for a more deliberate review of its membership policy."

Prominent figures have already weighed in on the ban's future. Texas Gov. Rick Perry weighed in for scouting tradition. Texas Gov. Rick Perry weighed in for scouting tradition.

Texas Governor Rick Perry, himself an Eagle Scout, stated that he hopes Scout leaders “will follow their historic position of keeping the Scouts strongly supportive of the values that make scouting this very important and impactful organization.”

More than 60 prominent Texas state lawmakers, including U.S. Congressman Kenny Marchant, added their support last week, signing a statement calling on the Scouts to maintain the scouting tradition for future generations.

“Capitulating to the liberal social agenda not only undermines the very principles of scouting, but sets the stage for the erosion of an organization that has defined the American experience for generations of young men,” they write. “We urge you to protect all that scouting has been, and all that it can remain.”

Those who favor repealing the ban have also not been hesitant to make their views known.

In addition to homosexual lobbying groups, high-profile figures have called for the repeal of the ban on open homosexuality for scoutmasters and members. It was one of the issues that Barack Obama and Mitt Romney agreed on in the 2012 presidential race.

The heritage of scouting was so important to the body's executive leadership that the Boy Scouts won a 5-4 Supreme Court decision recognizing the right of private organizations to determine their own membership policies in 2000.


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Please FReepers give them your opinion!
1 posted on 03/11/2013 7:38:38 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

“Input” is the wrong word to use w.r.t. this subject . . .


2 posted on 03/11/2013 7:39:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Morgana

My input is this. Go gay and I am pulling my seven year old out.


3 posted on 03/11/2013 7:40:49 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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To: Olog-hai; little jeremiah; Chode; wagglebee; GeronL; narses

““Input” is the wrong word to use w.r.t. this subject . . .”

For starters YES


4 posted on 03/11/2013 7:41:20 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

The scout oath includes the phrase “morally straight”. To include gays would either require dropping that phrase or declaring that anything anyone wants to do is moral.


5 posted on 03/11/2013 7:45:24 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Morgana

Gay Scout Leaders and gay Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts will corrupt the troops and packs and impose legal and financial liability on the BSA.


6 posted on 03/11/2013 7:46:16 PM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: freedomfiter2

They will need to add the term “sexually straight” to the Oath.


7 posted on 03/11/2013 7:48:02 PM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: Morgana

Well, I sent my input. If they change their policy we are going Boys’ Brigade or similar.


8 posted on 03/11/2013 7:48:03 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Morgana

You want my opinion - hell no!


9 posted on 03/11/2013 7:48:41 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Morgana

Boy Scout Oath or Promise

On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

....and morally straight.
....and morally straight.
....and morally straight.
....and morally straight.
....and morally straight.
....and morally straight.


10 posted on 03/11/2013 7:54:32 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: Olog-hai
Dear Boy Scouts.... Time to man-up and get your act in order.... no gay scouts. Period.

If you choose to go a different route...get your own source of funding.

11 posted on 03/11/2013 7:54:36 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: Sybeck1

go not gay but go anal sex and I take my boys out of the place


12 posted on 03/11/2013 7:54:44 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Morgana
FDRQ have no business being around young boys...
13 posted on 03/11/2013 7:55:31 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Morgana

Homosexual men mentoring boys when their parents are not around.

What could go wrong??


14 posted on 03/11/2013 7:56:49 PM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: Morgana
On Saturday I received an email from National asking me to complete an online survey - I think random adult leaders are receiving this. Today I clicked on the link and completed the survey.

It was about what I expected, maybe not quite as bad. First, I was asked whether I approved of the current policy. Then I was asked about a number of scenarios featuring holy homosexuals and their supportive chartering organizations. Then I was asked if I had changed my initial reaction to the current policy.

Noticeably missing from the scenarios is this much more likely one: "John and his son James joined the Boy Scouts of America relying upon the expressed policy of standing for traditional morality. After the national organization caved to big money corporate interests and sacrificed the youth of America on the altar of political correctness, John and James could not renounce the teachings of their church and the chartering organization and were forced to withdraw from Scouting. How do you feel about this?"

Nevertheless, I made my beliefs known and received a response along the lines of, "It appears you are concerned about the current direction of Scouting. Would you like a local Council representative to contact you?"

I indicted I would. I suppose our local reps feel much the same as me, but I will tell them what I believe, if I ever hear from them.

15 posted on 03/11/2013 7:57:22 PM PDT by Martin Tell (Victrix causa diis placuit sed victa Catoni.)
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To: Morgana

Here is my submission I just now sent:

I understand BSA is now asking for feedback on the Gay issue. It is also my understanding that such feedback has been sought now for over 2 years, and the RIGHT answer was given some time ago. Now you are asking again? Make no mistake about this. If BSA capitulates to the gay rights agenda, Scouting will die a very painful and quick death in America. America needs leadership right now! It’s looking more and more like BSA is unwilling to stand up to the pressure. STAND ON PRINCIPLE!!! NOT ON STUPID Web feedback requests that you KNOW the gay rights activists are going to FLOOD with pro-gay, ANTI-GOD, and morally corrupt thinking that contradicts EVERYTHING that Scouting is about. Take a stand, and STAY THERE!... put your faith in GOD... not feedback results! We talk a lot about Faith in God in Scouting. Well, It’s time to put some of that faith to a test. Stand your ground. Trust God. Watch and see how HE will bless Scouting as a result.


16 posted on 03/11/2013 7:57:37 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: sickoflibs

That scared me. For a split second, “mentoring” looked like “entering” . . .


17 posted on 03/11/2013 7:57:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Morgana

I am disturbed that they are “asking”.


18 posted on 03/11/2013 7:59:34 PM PDT by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Morgana
Link directly to the "Share your feedback" page:

http://www.scouting.org/ContactUs.aspx

19 posted on 03/11/2013 7:59:53 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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20 posted on 03/11/2013 7:59:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Trail mix ping.

Thanks Morgana.


21 posted on 03/11/2013 7:59:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Morgana

Done! Just say no to the sodomy lobby. I don’t need this brain damage...


22 posted on 03/11/2013 8:00:50 PM PDT by BreezyDog (Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: SunkenCiv

Those are issues I cannot (and utterly refuse to) “Stand with Rand” upon.

Becomes problematic putting one’s faith in a man; reminds me of Jeremiah 17:5 when FR starts seeing cheerleaders of certain politicians, with all due respect to everyone.


23 posted on 03/11/2013 8:03:53 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Morgana

“Please FReepers give them your opinion!”

As an Eagle Scout my opinion is: If the organization has to ask, it has already lost its way. There must be core values that cannot be compromised. If compromising the core values is even under consideration, the organization is dead.


24 posted on 03/11/2013 8:04:26 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Morgana
Please FReepers give them your opinion!

Not a prayer!

If they have to put their finger in the air, they're already toast, as far as I'm concerned.

Ethics, morals, patriotism and self-reliance are not determined by a popularity poll, in a society seriously infected by perverts and their growing army of supporters.

25 posted on 03/11/2013 8:05:28 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Morgana
I loved being a Boy Scout and was most happy at summer camp or canoe camp (Algonquin Park, Ontario).

Gay? not so much.

26 posted on 03/11/2013 8:08:10 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Morgana

Seriously, does there need to be discussion of this at all? This is how the BSA will spin their ultimate decision to allow homosexuals to prey on young children: “Well, we listened to everyone so this is a public decision supported by the majority.”


27 posted on 03/11/2013 8:09:42 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad

So much for being clean.


28 posted on 03/11/2013 8:10:36 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Morgana
Hey Boy Scouts!

Rule One: No Poofters.

29 posted on 03/11/2013 8:11:38 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Morgana

The Boy Scouts should not have gay scoutmasters for the same reason why we should have straight male leaders of girl scouts that aren’t the dads. Too much potential trouble.


30 posted on 03/11/2013 8:14:30 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Rule 0:

Carry a knife (Be Prepared!).

31 posted on 03/11/2013 8:15:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: CodeToad

And then their membership will drop by 50% as happened in Canada.


32 posted on 03/11/2013 8:15:31 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Morgana

On the subject, is this commercial from Hertz pushing the agenda, or am I reading it wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCX5GMniRqs


33 posted on 03/11/2013 8:19:36 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Morgana

I know there is an alternative for the lesbian-run Girl Scouts called the American Heritage Girls but is there an alternative to the Boy Scouts?


34 posted on 03/11/2013 8:21:20 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Morgana
"A Scout is:

Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent. "

I'd guess that Bammy is not a Boy Scout.

35 posted on 03/11/2013 8:23:40 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Chode

I had to look that term up.

Andrew Dice Clay - They don’t know if they wanna be called gays, fairies, homosexuals. I call ‘em (rooster) suckers! I think that about spells it out.


36 posted on 03/11/2013 8:25:13 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Darren McCarty

Fantastic point. As an assistant girl scout leader, I was not allowed to even have MY OWN daughter in a tent with me.

Now they want homosexual men to go out into the woods overnight with little boys? Sick sick sick.

If 1000 homosexual men went into the woods overnight with little boys

and

If 1000 heterosexual men went into the woods overnight with little boys

Does anyone on this planet really think there would be no difference in the chance of a molestation between the two groups? It defies common sense and reason.


37 posted on 03/11/2013 8:25:18 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Morgana
My message to the BSA Council: As the parent of an Eagle Scout I'm very concerned that the BSA leadership is "again" considering the admission of homosexuals. This politically correct move will undermine everything Scouting stands for. Having homosexual troop leaders mentor boys... What could possibly go wrong?! No homosexuals in the BSA!

What a disaster if they cave on this!

38 posted on 03/11/2013 8:30:04 PM PDT by broken_clock (Nuke'm til they glow, then shoot'em in the dark.)
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To: Morgana

I was a Boy Scout, my son is an Eagle Scout.
I do not think scouting is sexual.
My son, who was declared by his Sgt. Major, to be the smartest man in the Army was not the most popular kid in his class, but his peers in the scouts made him his reluctant choice for their patrol and Sr. patrol leader. He was kind of a geek, but I don’t think his behavior was a sexual thing.
My wife designates all of her United Way contributions to the Boy Scouts. I bought two packages of Scout Fair tickets today. If the Boy Scouts seek to normalize homosexual behavior, our family will not support scouting.


39 posted on 03/11/2013 8:34:03 PM PDT by calico_thompson
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To: publius911; Soul of the South

Chances are they know what will happen if they allow homos. I bet they are just trying to get a rough estimate of exactly how much money/scouts they will lose if they do this. Maybe money will be a primary factor in what keeps BSA the same as always. They are also not figuring in how much insurance rates will go up/triple after kids start getting molested.


40 posted on 03/11/2013 8:43:18 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: sickoflibs

My daughter is in American Heritage Girls, the conservative alternative to the Boy Scouts. The girls can go to a few things like Camporee, but have to sleep separate to ensure that there is no risk of sexual interaction.
If boys and girls are separate to protect them, so too should homosexuals and boys be separate.
As Mark Davis, a talk show host, has said, there should be no risk of sexual attraction between adults and children on a campout - regardless of the gender or sexual orientation of those attending.


41 posted on 03/11/2013 8:43:33 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Morgana

Incidentally, some of The “Blue on Green” incidents in Afghanistan are due to US soldiers teasing the Afghanis about being gay. The Afghan culture mirrors the Greek culture when Alexander conquered them 2500 years ago. Male leaders use boys as sex puppets, but they deny that they are homosexual.


42 posted on 03/11/2013 8:44:25 PM PDT by calico_thompson
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To: Martin Tell

I’m afraid of this reliance on an online survey / contact us form. Too easily spammed to give a “go homo” vote. And not enough to get a true opinion of the parents whose children are at risk.


43 posted on 03/11/2013 8:46:06 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Sybeck1

They need to ask?

Pull the plug now.


44 posted on 03/11/2013 8:50:44 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Morgana
Are the BSA F-ing serious?

Okay BSA, let me help you out here: tell these queers to go to H*ll!

Homosexuality has nothing whatsoever to do with being a Scout! Nothing! What difference does it make if Johnny's fellow Scouts know that he's Gay? Nothing...except of course making them uncomfortable in certain situations. This is nothing more than the radical, militant, Homosexuals trying to shove their perversion down the throats of young boys!

These Queers have two options as I see it:

1) Start their own Queer Scouting Program

2) Join and keep their perversion to themselves.

It's the radical, militant, Homosexual Community who are being intolerant here!

The fact that the BSA are still kicking this can down the road is very troubling to me. I've got a bad feeling their going to cave to these degenerate Sodomites. If the BSA do cave, they deserve a speedy demise!

45 posted on 03/11/2013 8:56:03 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Soul of the South

Same here, class of 19xx. We won Dale vs. BSA in 2000, so there is no legal reason to forfeit the member’s right to associate with whom they please, as indicated by entry requirements.

The BSA is a private organization with a 100-year old heritage. The BSA doesn’t have to be a government-mandated social experiment (like the US military has become).

Anyone on the national council who votes for this is putting money ahead of integrity and the protection of children.


46 posted on 03/11/2013 9:07:47 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: calico_thompson

I don’t think scouting is “sexual” either, but the Scouting Handbook definitely addresses issues of a sexual nature, including masturbation.

Are you prepared to see the Scouting Handbook for boys re-written to accomodate the acceptance of homosexual copulation practices? I wretch just thinking about it...

Adolescents are at a critical time in their sexual development — do we want openly homosexual men to be their role models?

While you’re considering it, what about atheists? Are you prepared to see the Scout Oath and Scout Law re-written to accomodate atheism?

If atheism is accepted into Scouting then what moral foundation remains?

I don’t know about you, but I say HELL NO to the admission of both homosexuals and atheists in the BSA.


47 posted on 03/11/2013 9:20:36 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Morgana

I’m a Scoutmaster, founder of a troop, father of two Scouts, one of whom just got approved for his Eagle project tonight. My opinion is to change nothing and to keep this organization just as it is. There are other “inclusive” scouting type organizations. Utter failures with little active participation.

That said, the leaders of Scouts are idiots if they are asking for input from anyone.

They need to put out a very simple two question survey

1. Do you believe BSA should allow open homosexual leaders?
2. What is your Boy Scout Leader Identification Number?

Everyone else, I’m sorry but your opinion does not count.


48 posted on 03/11/2013 9:35:55 PM PDT by cyclotic (In a society of wolves, you do not fight back by creating more sheep-Dan Bongino)
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To: Morgana

have some balls and stick to a principle.

don’t try to give yourself cover or an excuse to change your mind based on what others tell you.

my God have some courage for your convictions! dammit!!!


49 posted on 03/11/2013 9:48:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Morgana

Done!


50 posted on 03/11/2013 10:10:12 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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