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House conservatives: GOP leadership killed measure to defund Obamacare
http://washingtonexaminer.com ^ | march 10, 2013 | Byron York

Posted on 03/12/2013 2:53:07 AM PDT by lowbridge

As Republican senators Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Marco Rubio, and James Inhofe prepare to introduce a measure to defund Obamacare — and threaten to hold up a continuing resolution to fund the U.S. government if the measure is not given a vote — some conservatives are unhappy that the House, controlled by Republicans, did not do the same thing.

It wasn’t for lack of effort, at least on the part of some conservative Republicans. As the House prepared to consider its own version of the continuing resolution last week — it ultimately passed 267 to 151 — more than two dozen conservative GOP lawmakers signed on to an amendment that would have defunded Obamacare. They submitted the amendment and hoped it would receive a vote but were stymied when the House leadership declared that no amendments would be allowed.

“If that amendment had gone to the floor, far and above a majority of the conference would have voted for it,” said Arizona Rep. Matt Salmon, one of the supporters, in an interview Saturday. “I think everyone in the conference would have voted for it,” added Florida Rep. Ron DeSantis, another supporter.

Nevertheless, the Republican leadership did not allow the amendment to be considered. And that, Salmon, DeSantis, and other conservative Republicans believe, is a measure of the leadership’s uneasiness with continuing the legislative fight against Obamacare. Some Republicans — lawmakers who might have felt pressure to vote to defund Obamacare — believe privately that the fight is essentially over, and that the GOP should come to terms with the reality of national health care.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare

1 posted on 03/12/2013 2:53:07 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

P**sies!!!!! Fire them all then.


2 posted on 03/12/2013 2:58:13 AM PDT by dubyajam (t "Life is Hard ... It's Even Harder When you're Stupid" --- John Wayne)
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To: lowbridge

....before long, they will start to blame YOU, the American citizen for not stopping them


3 posted on 03/12/2013 3:06:20 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: lowbridge

Republicanleadership? Boehner...and who else?


4 posted on 03/12/2013 3:09:18 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Doogle

>> ....before long, they will start to blame YOU, the American citizen for not stopping them

bump


5 posted on 03/12/2013 3:10:11 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Doogle
They certainly blame me for the fact that Romney was a terrible candidate and the fact that he failed to convince people to vote for him. In fact, I did vote for him -- but it's still very much my fault that Obama got re-elected. [???]

All I can say is: I have no plans to support the GOP in any future election. This country needs a new opposition party and the Democrats will not be stopped until we have such a new opposition party. I will do my part by trying to kill the GOP as soon as possible.

6 posted on 03/12/2013 3:16:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Nobody needs to try to “kill” the GOP, they have done that all by themselves.

Soon, very soon we are hoping to see a new leader or two step up and “dethrown” those clowns once known ad “conservatives”. Perhaps when that happens (and there are signs it is happening), we can all make our shift to a party we MIGHT trust and actually represent “We, Te People”.


7 posted on 03/12/2013 3:28:07 AM PDT by Progov
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To: lowbridge
I want the names of "the Republican leadership did not allow the amendment to be considered. "
Here's the Republicans Leadership Internet Page.
Click on the links to tell them what you think!
8 posted on 03/12/2013 3:28:51 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: lowbridge

Cowards! Despicable, belly crawling, dung heap cowards!


9 posted on 03/12/2013 3:31:34 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The biggest risk in letting the government decide where you spend your first dollar of income is that someday ~ probably soon ~ they'll decide they need for you to spend that money doing something else ~ then you won't have medical care available. There will be nothing you can do about it either.

Democrats are generally incapable of following that logic ~ every morning is a whole new adventure ~

10 posted on 03/12/2013 3:36:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: lowbridge
Some Republicans — lawmakers who might have felt pressure to vote to defund Obamacare — believe privately that the fight is essentially over, and that the GOP should come to terms with the reality of national health care.


11 posted on 03/12/2013 3:36:33 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: ClearCase_guy

This country needs a new opposition party

There’s the essence of our problem. We have no opposition party. Both parties are for big government, crony capitalism, and globalism. The only difference is who get’s the loot.


12 posted on 03/12/2013 3:37:31 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: who knows what evil?

McCarthy, Cantor, and their committee chairmen toadies.


13 posted on 03/12/2013 3:38:23 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: lowbridge

We are being led into the cattle cars by the people we elected. Or DID we?


14 posted on 03/12/2013 3:39:13 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: lowbridge

Some Republicans — lawmakers who might have felt pressure to vote to defund Obamacare — believe privately that the fight is essentially over, and that the GOP should come to terms with the reality of national health care.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

These are NOT Republicans. They are RINO progressives whose big government, anti constitutional vaues make them traitors to the People.

They are essentially traitors.The fight will never be over until Obamacare is repealed completely.


15 posted on 03/12/2013 3:50:13 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: lowbridge

“Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation,” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible. They, and they alone, have the power.”
Charley Reese


16 posted on 03/12/2013 3:51:26 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: lowbridge

Follow the money. The GOPe killed the bill in the House because of lobbying. Find out who benefits and find out with whom they met.. It’s time to purge and sanitize the den of iniquity.


17 posted on 03/12/2013 3:55:09 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: lowbridge

Membership in the Republican Party does not make you a Constitutional Conservative.


18 posted on 03/12/2013 4:05:29 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: Yosemitest

They are all smiling. What are they smiling about?


19 posted on 03/12/2013 4:15:44 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: lowbridge

Down with the Whigs! TEA Party today; Freedom forever.


20 posted on 03/12/2013 4:16:58 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: lowbridge

It was a loosing issue.

To many people want someone else to take care of them, and actually support socialized medicine. The irony is that next year, when the full costs hit, you will see a lot of screaming about how much “free” health care costs.


21 posted on 03/12/2013 4:18:27 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Venturer
They're smiling because they think that we will accept their lame excuse to back Obamacare.
If we can't IMPEACH or RECALL them, then search and destroy them by any means possible.
22 posted on 03/12/2013 4:19:27 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“This country needs a new opposition party “

And it really does need to come from the bottom up. I was heartened last weekend to at least see that at the gop county convention, a good number of true conservative, tea party people won county positions.


23 posted on 03/12/2013 4:27:23 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Venturer
They are all smiling. What are they smiling about?



24 posted on 03/12/2013 4:30:29 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Progov
Nobody needs to try to “kill” the GOP, they have done that all by themselves.

True enough, but it *is* up to us to bury the GOP. If we don't, the carcass will hand around for years, stinking everything up.

25 posted on 03/12/2013 4:38:33 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: lowbridge

Proving, once again, that the only difference between the people at the top is the slope of the hill they are shoving us down.


26 posted on 03/12/2013 4:46:39 AM PDT by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: Pecos

You know if Cruz keeps this up we are going to have our first Hispanic President and I will probably vote for him.


27 posted on 03/12/2013 5:03:08 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: lowbridge

I really really just want to give up. What’s the point?


28 posted on 03/12/2013 5:09:12 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: lowbridge; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz; ...
RE :”It wasn’t for lack of effort, at least on the part of some conservative Republicans. As the House prepared to consider its own version of the continuing resolution last week — it ultimately passed 267 to 151 — more than two dozen conservative GOP lawmakers signed on to an amendment that would have defunded Obamacare. They submitted the amendment and hoped it would receive a vote but were stymied when the House leadership declared that no amendments would be allowed.
“If that amendment had gone to the floor, far and above a majority of the conference would have voted for it,” said Arizona Rep. Matt Salmon, one of the supporters, in an interview Saturday. “I think everyone in the conference would have voted for it,” added Florida Rep. Ron DeSantis, another supporter.
Nevertheless, the Republican leadership did not allow the amendment to be considered. And that, Salmon, DeSantis, and other conservative Republicans believe, is a measure of the leadership’s uneasiness with continuing the legislative fight against Obamacare. Some Republicans — lawmakers who might have felt pressure to vote to defund Obamacare — believe privately that the fight is essentially over, and that the GOP should come to terms with the reality of national health care”

This is why Ryan came out with another symbolic budget resolution that balances the budget in ~ 10 years and cuts out all O-care spending while using (keeping) the past tax Obama increases and medicare cuts for the same purpose.

This way the House sends Obama and Reid the CR they demand, and House conservatives get another symbolic vote that never sees law. Ryan was trying to explain it on FNS to Chris Wallace.(he called it 'tough choices')

Do you folks enjoy listening to Ryan talk on TV? It always sounds like bla-bla-bla to me. I dont dislike him but he always sounds like a (read) talking point machine, kind of like Hannity.

29 posted on 03/12/2013 5:13:35 AM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I sometimes think we would have an easier time of changing the demoRat party from within than the RePub.

Pretty sad


30 posted on 03/12/2013 5:22:05 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: ClearCase_guy
All I can say is: I have no plans to support the GOP in any future election. This country needs a new opposition party and the Democrats will not be stopped until we have such a new opposition party. I will do my part by trying to kill the GOP as soon as possible.

I feel the same way. After the fiasco of last November, I decided that the GOP has gotten my last vote. We need a true opposition party.

31 posted on 03/12/2013 5:28:26 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: lowbridge
the GOP should come to terms with the reality of national health care.

We'll come to terms with national health care when it's dead, and everyone responsible for it on both sides of the aisle is in jail or dead.

32 posted on 03/12/2013 5:33:43 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: lowbridge
Some Republicans — lawmakers who might have felt pressure to vote to defund Obamacare — believe privately that the fight is essentially over, and that the GOP should come to terms with the reality of national health care.

Many voters will vote against Republicans and conservatives if Obamacare remains on the books at election time. Just be advised....

33 posted on 03/12/2013 5:38:57 AM PDT by Rapscallion (The people sense what Obama has in store for America.)
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To: lowbridge

To paraphrase Reagan, republicans aren’t the solution, they are the problem.


34 posted on 03/12/2013 5:43:36 AM PDT by DManA
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To: lowbridge

York does not name the 20 good guys who supported the proposed amendment to defund Obamacare, and I can’t find any other source which identifies them. This means that every GOP representative will claim to his constituents that he was among the twenty. Incomplete reporting allows RINOs to have their cake and eat it, too - while real Conservatives who did the right thing are assumed guilty by association. That’s too bad...


35 posted on 03/12/2013 5:53:17 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: jsanders2001

I think he was born in Canada.


36 posted on 03/12/2013 5:55:21 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: MachIV

Thatswhat he’s said in Interviews but I think his mother was an American citizen at the time.


37 posted on 03/12/2013 5:56:59 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: who knows what evil?

“Republicanleadership? Boehner...and who else?”

Its usually the triumverate of Tammy Faye, Cantor and McCarthy.


38 posted on 03/12/2013 8:29:42 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: lowbridge

Boehner/McCain 2016 - Give the tried and true republican leadership a chance to actually lead the party back to prominence.

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/sarcasm
(I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit)


39 posted on 03/12/2013 8:33:38 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: redgolum
As much as I hate to admit it, you are correct. Anytime, any Nation that has 51% nd more of its voting population voting to put someone in power because of the freebies promised them, at that point in time, that Nation is doomed.

This, in a nutshell, is what happened to the U.S.A. In both the 2008 election and the 2012 election went big for obama. Why? Mainly because of the "freebies" he promised. Such as forgiving student loans, free cell phones,free money, and any other "freebies". Add the self hating Whites to the number of idiots that the indoctrination institutions turn out each year, I see no relief in sight.

40 posted on 03/12/2013 11:32:21 AM PDT by sport
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