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El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa ^ | Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:54 AM | Terry Maketa

Posted on 03/12/2013 4:27:50 PM PDT by RandallFlagg

The President of the Senate, Morse, has stipulated that we have to get seven Republican co-sponsors before he will grant late bill status on the Senate side. That is not going to happen. After the sheriff's finish testifying on the gun bills it won't change, but will get worse.

(Excerpt) Read more at shr.elpasoco.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; communism; communists; coup; progressiveagenda
Here is the email exchange showing how the democrats are using extortion against our Colorado sheriffs because they bravely spoke out against these anti-gun laws.

I just called Sheriff Maketa and expressed my support for his stance on this.

It's a PDF file.

(719) 520-7100

jacquelinekirby@elpasoco.com

1 posted on 03/12/2013 4:27:51 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: Admin Moderator

If I skrooed this up, please forgive.
I’m a bit cheesed off at our state’s elected morons at the moment.


2 posted on 03/12/2013 4:28:54 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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“I see how it if we want a salary bill then we better be obedient because the dems are mad at us. Well from what I’ve seen and read the Sheriffs are not happy with the Dems or the process they used to derail citizen input.. “

Extortion. Plain and simple.


3 posted on 03/12/2013 4:30:57 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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Based on other information I received today, I would
strongly advise that we review these amendments and potentially change our position on this bill from neutral to support. I feel that we were very much listened to during this small group discussion and that the CSOC voice was heard.

I have been advised by a reliable source at the Capitol that the Dems are seriously not pleased with the CSOC positions on the gun bills, and given the potential for a real salary bill to be introduced as you shall see from a follow-up email from Sheriff Pelle,, support of SB197 would put us in a more favorable light for salary bill support from the Dems. I do not believe we would be sacrificing our principles or positions on the other gun bills by supporting SB197
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Please let us know what you think on this proposal ASAP as I need to get a letter from us to the Senate Dems before the close of business today.


4 posted on 03/12/2013 4:48:13 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg
Sheriff Maketa in its entirety:



A Message from the El Paso County Sheriff's Office . . . . .

An Injustice Against our Citizens

Sheriff Terry MaketaSheriff Terry Maketa

Monday, March 4, 2013, was unlike any day I’ve experienced in my 12 years testifying at the Colorado State Capitol. During my tenure, I’ve had numerous opportunities to participate in legislative processes from draft proposal to signature of a bill making it law.

I’ve witnessed many hearings and observed citizens, law enforcement, and special interest groups share opinions on a variety of proposed laws. I’ve witnessed very controversial bills set in a process to allow full access from supporters, opponents, and citizens to be heard by their legislators. On numerous occasions, bills similar in nature were set for hearing on different days to ensure opportunity for anyone to participate in the deliberative process. On Monday, this didn’t occur. Instead, gun bills were simultaneously scheduled and of 25 plus sheriffs, only one could testify per bill. Hearings were split so bills heard simultaneously were on different floors, even though all were heard by senate committees. Rules for testimony changed three times from Thursday afternoon through Monday at 10:30 am, when hearings began.

Historically, any citizen would be allowed to speak if they arrived at the Capitol early and signed up on testimony records. Although sign up sheets were in place and citizens including myself signed up, we were completely disregarded. Minutes after I signed up to testify, I learned a different process would be utilized and testimony was based on three categories: experts, preferred witnesses, and public witnesses. No explanation was provided to define expert or preferred witness. I was told this decision was made by the senate president and the chairperson of the hearing committee. Additionally, experts would have no time constraints and all others would be restricted to three minutes. I was completely disheartened at what I was witnessing and this was exacerbated when I learned experts included an individual that was not a resident of Colorado who had no credentials to qualify as an expert except his spouse was a victim of the Tucson Arizona shooting. He admitted he had not read the proposed bill and could not speak to any specifics regarding this bill. He encouraged Colorado to adopt universal background checks and close the gun show loophole, both of which already exist. Sadly, he testified with unlimited restriction as voters and taxpayers of this state sat helplessly as they were denied the right to testify during committee hearings.

My colleague, Sheriff John Cooke, testified in opposition of the “Universal Background Check” bill on behalf of most sheriffs while staying within the three minute constraint. Fortunately, I was allowed to testify because a member of the legislature listed me as an expert witness. I was honored and brought statistics and facts as it related to the national insta-check system (NICS); the probable criminalization of law abiding citizens and the unenforceability of this particular bill. I offered other options knowing we all share the common goal of reducing violence. I was proud to represent my constituents and the majority of our sheriffs. That pride was quickly diminished as I departed the hearing room and witnessed hundreds of citizens who would not be given the opportunity to testify. Although they expressed their sincere appreciation for my comments, I recognized the injustice that was unfolding before my eyes. Citizens of Colorado were prevented from participating in the legislative process. Their rights had been overridden by the agenda of a few members of the State Senate.

As I made my way out of the Capitol, I was shocked at the number of people who attended these hearings. It’s estimated the number of people in attendance reached 1,000. I spoke to several and was told they just wanted their voice to be heard. Many of them had never been to the Capitol, let alone testified on any bill. Some brought their children as a lesson in civics and sacrificed a day at work to participate in the law making process. Unfortunately, what they hoped for never happened.

Due to a prior commitment, I could not stay for the remaining bills. Later, I phoned a member of our legislature and expressed concern for what I had witnessed; changing of rules, time limits, new classification of speakers to establish priority and most of all the number of citizens who made the journey to the Capitol in hopes of being heard. I was told the rules did change several times and that this was very unusual. These changes were driven by the majority leadership, Senator John Morse, and the chairperson of the involved hearing committee.

I am not sharing this because of the outcome of the hearings that day; rather I am sharing this because of the process implemented and the faces of all those citizens that were never permitted to participate in the process. Government is supposed to be by the people, for the people and on this day, they were crushed and kicked to the side. Special interest coalitions and hand picked experts with no relevant expertise trumped our citizens.

To add insult to injury, the following Wednesday, I received an email containing the following language from a member of County Sheriffs Of Colorado: “…I have been advised by a reliable source at the Capitol that the Dems are seriously not pleased with the CSOC positions on the gun bills, and given the potential for a real salary bill to be introduced as you shall see from a follow-up email from” (an unnamed sheriff), “support of SB197 would put us in a more favorable light for salary bill support from the Dems. I do not believe we would be sacrificing our principles or positions on the other gun bills by supporting SB197.” “...Please let us know what you think on this proposal ASAP as I need to get a letter from us to the Senate Dems before the close of business today.” As I see it, senate Dems have made it known, “sheriffs, obey or no pay for you.” The first word that comes to my mind is extortion. Again, I’m disheartened that the pay of sheriffs is threatened to gain compliance with the majority party leadership. Local elected officials’ pay is set by the legislature as stated in Colorado Law. The previous governor’s process brought the need for a pay increase before the legislature and that legislature is attempting to buy compliance. I have great admiration for my fellow sheriffs; they are true professionals with high morals and principles. Having served with many of them for years, I can say they are men of honor with a passion to serve and do what’s right. I will not speak for them, but I personally will not concede to these threats, stand by while coercive acts such as this go without mention, nor will I compromise my values and beliefs for a justified pay raise based on studies performed by a bi-partisan commission formed by the democrat leadership. To be clear, this salary recommendation would have no affect on me, as I am term limited. Setting salaries is the responsibility of the legislature. This authority should not be used as a tool of coercion, but unfortunately it appears to have become such a device and there is nothing to suggest otherwise.

- Sheriff Terry Maketa

Email Exchanges Concerning the Salary Proposal (.pdf)

5 posted on 03/12/2013 5:11:59 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

That’s my sheriff. I hope he’ll run for governor.


6 posted on 03/12/2013 5:24:37 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Red Steel

Thank you for posting that.
Word needs to get out.


7 posted on 03/12/2013 5:26:46 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: Standing Wolf

I’d vote for him in a half-second.


8 posted on 03/12/2013 5:27:20 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: Standing Wolf

Mine too, although I don’t like his recent effort to stifle political speech by members of his department. He is asking that they seek his approval before speaking out,


9 posted on 03/12/2013 5:31:53 PM PDT by Last of the Mohicans
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To: RandallFlagg
Here is Email #3:


Colorado Dems extort Sheriffs photo Maketa_Email3_zps68a00397.jpg

10 posted on 03/12/2013 5:38:19 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: RandallFlagg

I’m circulating all this info on FaceBook, too. I linked to the KRDO news article about Miketa and the Democrats. Our own Rep, Giron, is bragging about how she defied the pro gun folks.

GRrrrrrrrrr.......


11 posted on 03/12/2013 6:07:19 PM PDT by moondoggie
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To: RandallFlagg

El Paso County, Colorado.

Not to be confused with El Paso, TX

But I like the gutsy Sheriff.


12 posted on 03/12/2013 6:49:19 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: moondoggie

Giron only won by about 4,000 votes. That can be flipped in the next election.


13 posted on 03/12/2013 6:53:48 PM PDT by Red Steel ( --)
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To: Texas Fossil

Bump


14 posted on 03/12/2013 6:54:17 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: RandallFlagg; Red Steel

So I take it from the sketchy information presented, that the State Sheriff’s organization might support the bill to “Restrict Gun Access for People Accused of Domestic Violence (SB197).” If so, that would be no surprise.

Nothing more than an accusation required to get a restraining order. Interesting step toward eventually getting rid of the Second Amendment. The influence of feminists and other socialists on police agencies goes on.

Have fun. Enjoy the slide. The VAWA did the same thing on the federal level during the ‘90s, and Republicans helped Democrats to pass it.


15 posted on 03/12/2013 6:55:20 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
So I take it from the sketchy information presented, that the State Sheriff’s organization might support the bill to “Restrict Gun Access for People Accused of Domestic Violence (SB197).” If so, that would be no surprise.

I'd say it is a violation of the 4th Amendment.

16 posted on 03/12/2013 7:21:34 PM PDT by Red Steel ( --)
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To: familyop; TigersEye; RandallFlagg
Senator Brophy won't obeyed the nonsense being proposed like many people...

Here's what Sen. Greg Brophy, R-Wray stated about the bill limiting magazine sizes:

"I'm telling you right now: I will not obey this law," . "I will willfully and purposefully and civilly disobey this law."

17 posted on 03/12/2013 7:30:18 PM PDT by Red Steel ( --)
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To: Red Steel
"I'd say it is a violation of the 4th Amendment."

It saddens me to show this to you and everyone else, Red, but here's the case of Dr. Tim Emerson, M.D.--very easy to read as presented by Dr. Corry (a friend in CO). I advise you and everyone to read it, if you want a clue to what really happened to our constitutional rights. Notice the link to 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(8).

The Emerson Case


18 posted on 03/12/2013 8:21:08 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Red Steel

Yee haw! That’s what I want to hear. Pols who will draw the line in the sand along side of us. Thanks for pinging me to that good news.


19 posted on 03/12/2013 8:32:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: familyop

I’ll review it.


20 posted on 03/12/2013 8:42:57 PM PDT by Red Steel ( --)
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To: TigersEye

Now I’ve read Senator Wray was also joined by Senator Marble who won’t abide if it becomes law.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22765004/colorado-gun-bill-senate-vote-limit-ammunition-magazines?source=pkg

So if we got 2 state senators who have loudly and publicly said they will not obey it, you can bet there’s uncountable others who won’t either. Have fun shopping in the border state Wyoming or Utah or Arizona or Nebraska or New Mexico or Kansas or even Oklahoma. Heehee...


21 posted on 03/12/2013 8:55:28 PM PDT by Red Steel ( --)
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To: Red Steel
This is really wonderful. As wonderful as things can be given the circumstances. Two openly defiant pols and a large contingent of county Sheriffs voicing opposition. Oh, yeah!

I feel a little less lonely now.

Don't quote me on this but previously I read that none of these laws, if passed, will go into effect until July 16th. I am on some retailer's notification lists should they secure some new inventory so I might get my illicit merchandise without taking any trips. While it's still licit. ;-)

22 posted on 03/12/2013 9:11:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: familyop

Thanks for reminder and link. Emerson can’t catch a break. Does anyone have an update on how he’s doing?

Reading current lib thinking: http://buckyville.yuku.com/reply/806442/Re-The-Hidden-History-of-the-Second-Amendment#.UUCJSIl5nTp

The hidden history of the second amendment 1998 UC Davis Carl T Bogus (member anti-gun groups): http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/Bogus2.htm


23 posted on 03/13/2013 7:19:12 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: RandallFlagg; moondoggie; Red Steel; familyop; dynachrome; dhs12345; neverdem; ColoCowgirl; ...

The democrats are using extortion against our Colorado sheriffs .

Ready for some recalls ?

Senator John Morse facing recall effort over gun laws (Colorado Dem)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2996482/posts

Recall effort begins; Petition aims to oust McLachlan (Anti-Gun Colorado Dem State Rep.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2996603/posts

Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


24 posted on 03/13/2013 6:36:56 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: MileHi

Colorado Ping


25 posted on 03/13/2013 6:52:06 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Doesn’t sound like chickenloopy is paying attention.


26 posted on 03/13/2013 8:12:14 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Texas Fossil
I cut my conservative teeth in Colo Spgs. The political environment there set me on the path and I am forever thankful.
27 posted on 03/14/2013 6:23:41 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

I spent every other week in CO for almost 2 years (1986-1987). Grew to love Colorado Springs for the climate, scenery and people.

That is also where my wife and I went for our brief honeymoon in 1971 when we were married.

I hope they cook the goose of these traitors. I am sure the residents of the Springs know what a traitor is and what you do with one. hee hee hee


28 posted on 03/14/2013 7:51:32 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
Agreed. It is a beautiful place.

I was in the Springs between 87 and ‘95. I saw the “decline” of the Gazzett.

Sad state of affairs here in Colorado. My wife and I are both natives going back four generations for me and three for my wife. We are shocked at how it is changing and are considering fleeing the State before it gets too bad.

29 posted on 03/16/2013 7:15:10 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Sorry

Good people are always welcome in TX & OK.

Mountains are very small and few.

There are other advantages.


30 posted on 03/16/2013 7:22:46 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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