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Rand Paul 2016: Principle is How the GOP Will Win Over Millennials
policymic.com ^ | March 3 2013 | Zack Fulkerson

Posted on 03/13/2013 7:37:12 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

The Republican Party is at an impetus. Reflecting upon the 2012 primaries, it is easy for us to see how split the party has become. There was Rick Santorum, running almost entirely on social issues like abortion and family values, who drew a great deal of controversy by talking about bans on pornography and contraception. There was Ron Paul, an unwavering constitutional libertarian who championed Austrian economics and an end to wars abroad. He stood alongside Governor Rick Perry of Texas, who offered up a plan to go to war with Turkey and Venezuela.

Eventually the party was left with Mitt Romney — a flip-flopping moderate who ultimately failed to hit President Obama where it hurts on the economy. Disenfranchised libertarians who had supported Congressman Paul left the RNC to start their own convention across the street. Many either did not vote, or jumped ships to Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson, also a former 2012 Republican candidate. Millions of conservatives, who were simply not convinced that Governor Romney was their guy, stayed home from the polls that day.

It is no coincidence that Congressman Paul did the best amongst the younger members of the Republican Party, holding a 30% plurality of voters 18-29. Paul's message of limited government, fiscal responsibility, personal freedom, and non-interventionism is increasingly popular amongst young voters. In order to garnish the support of these individuals, the GOP must embrace these same principles. This would not be any drastic or fundamental change in the party platform; it is simply reverting back to the fundamental concepts which the party was founded upon.

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1 posted on 03/13/2013 7:37:12 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion
There was Rick Santorum, running almost entirely on social issues like abortion and family values, who drew a great deal of controversy by talking about bans on pornography and contraception.

LOL the good old liberal lie, Rick Santorum wants to ban contraception and pornography.
2 posted on 03/13/2013 7:42:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Ban on pornography? Rick is running for President of Iceland? http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/01/world/europe/iceland-pornography-ban


3 posted on 03/13/2013 7:46:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cripplecreek

Santorum Promises Broad War on Porn

The Daily Caller flags a little-discussed position paper on Rick Santorum’s campaign website—his pledge to aggressively prosecute those who produce and distribute pornography

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbarro/2012/03/15/santorum-promises-broad-war-on-porn/

Santorum offers a good case study on how to lose an election.


4 posted on 03/13/2013 7:54:42 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

So you support child pornography?

So doing much “research” are you?


5 posted on 03/13/2013 7:57:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
There was Rick Santorum, running almost entirely on social issues like abortion and family values, who drew a great deal of controversy by talking about bans on pornography and contraception.

This is a damned lie. Santorum did not talk about banning anything. Ever. Georghe Stephanopolous did and the rest of the media followed like the lap dogs they are.

6 posted on 03/13/2013 8:08:26 AM PDT by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: pgkdan

What Santorum said was that he would enforce existing pornography laws and I don’t believe it ever came up on the campaign trail.

The birth control this was his personal traditional Catholic belief but he said that government had no right or responsibility to force Catholic or any other health institutions to pay for it under Obamacare.

The lying Alinskyites will stop at nothing.


7 posted on 03/13/2013 8:13:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

You’re right. He said on several occasions that he would NOT try to ban contraceptives and the liars didn’t even slow down. My own wife told me during one of the debates that she would like him a lot more if he could just stop talking about banning contraceptives! The media knows it’s business...tell alie often enough and it will become the ‘truth’.


8 posted on 03/13/2013 8:23:57 AM PDT by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: pgkdan

I like Santorum but he stumbled around on lots of issues where he sounded like a prohibitionist....

Just as we’ve seen from a lot of other things that are vices on the Internet, they end to grow exponentially as a result of that. It’s one thing to come to Las Vegas and do gaming and participate in the shows and that kind of thing as entertainment, it’s another thing to sit in your home and have access to that it. I think it would be dangerous to our country to have that type of access to gaming on the Internet.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/02/16/rick-santorum-against-contraception-agai

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/291235/why-newts-biggest-donor-so-opposed-santorum

His statement references going after pornography that is distributed not just on the Internet, but also “on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV.” Perhaps I am not staying in the most interesting hotels, but my impression is that porn distributed through such channels is almost definitionally not extreme.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbarro/2012/03/15/santorum-promises-broad-war-on-porn/

And remember this was the election when we had a terrible economy and a President who’s socialist policies were to blame. When our liberties are threatened by the government in so many ways. Santorum was at odds with the people and the times.


9 posted on 03/13/2013 8:25:37 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: sgtyork

Santorum only ever mentioned those issues when asked, and then pressed to answer. He never brought them up, that’s not what his camapign was about. do you think he won Iowa because Iowans want to ban the pill? Ridiculous...but after he showed he was a viable candidate the press and his GOP opposition came after him and tried to paint him as some kind of uber Catholic prude.


10 posted on 03/13/2013 8:28:44 AM PDT by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Lower the drinking age to 18. That will get quite a few young votes. That would also cause some problems, but electorally that’s a winning idea.


11 posted on 03/13/2013 8:31:20 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: pgkdan

They claimed that he said he didn’t care about unemployment when what he really said was that unemployment was a result of the real problems (government) and if you fix the real problems, unemployment would take care of itself.


12 posted on 03/13/2013 8:33:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: sgtyork

I travel very little In the past few years compared to former times.

but had occasion to spend three or four stays in Dallas for some seminars, last summer.

the TV was so full of porn it was alarming. I had to adjust my usual habits and be sure to bring light reading. Doubt a whole lot of people are doing that.

Teen boys’ formation is becoming irreparably damaged.

People hope these kids will have normal sex lives after this exposure but it is not going to happen.

We think the media and the government and corporations are protecting us when it comes to telling us what to do with our kids.

This is where stupidity just reigns.

No, they are doing studies on why lesbians are fat, but never on the effects of deviant sex on the formative brain or, well. ..

It’s now prohibition to prevent Wally and the Beav from watching actual sex on line in their rooms. It’s repressive to tell them it’s bad for them and it’s unusual to protect them from the temptation to expose themselves to it.

They are not going to have normal sex lives. The brain becomes rewired. The developing brain is damaged from it.

It is extremely addictive and it, and it, addiction to pornography is a LEADING cause of marital breakup.


13 posted on 03/13/2013 8:41:11 AM PDT by stanne
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To: pgkdan

That was a lie, the whole “war on women” was a lie propagated by the MSM for the reelection of Bambi. I actually voted for Santorum even though he wasn’t my first choice (I wanted to stop Romney from being the nominee), but I don’t think he was a very good candidate. He would have likely lost far worse than Romney did. This thread printing his new op-ed kind of confirmed that one to me: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2996137/posts


14 posted on 03/13/2013 8:42:37 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: pgkdan

He tied Romney in Michigan which was a pretty astounding feat since Romney beat McCain by 9 points here in 08.


15 posted on 03/13/2013 8:42:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Rand Paul 2016: Principle is How the GOP Will Win Over Millennials

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2996078/posts
"Rand Paul: GOP must 'evolve' on immigration"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2992385/posts
"Why Did Sen. Rand Paul Vote To Confirm Chuck Hagel? Here’s His Answer"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2991569/posts
"Paul: Republican Party in Need of Facelift" (tone down social issues)

Say what you want about Rand Paul. I liked his filibuster. But don't tell me he's about 'principle' just yet. I want to see more and I want to see him adhere to conservative values across the spectrum.

I'm not ruling him out. But as a social conservative I have serious doubts.

16 posted on 03/13/2013 8:43:51 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: pgkdan

Banning contraceptives becomes a hot issue and a complete obstruction to the presidential run, and one’s own party in such a scenario won’t come to the defense, even when there is no talk of a ban as it would be unconstitutional and not even possible.

But a ban on ownership of weapons is fine.

This is complete insanity


17 posted on 03/13/2013 8:44:47 AM PDT by stanne
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To: cripplecreek

Nice try, but child pornography is already illegal and I have no evidence that these laws are not being enforced.

Santorum was a gift to the democrats last year. While people were worried about surviving during the recession he was on natonal television saying that contraception is a ‘Grievous Moral Wrong’. Yes, he said it.


18 posted on 03/13/2013 8:47:16 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

He stood alongside Governor Rick Perry of Texas, who offered up a plan to go to war with Turkey and Venezuela

Gov. Perry wanted to go to war with those two countries??? I didn’t hear that!!


19 posted on 03/13/2013 8:53:00 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
contraception is a ‘Grievous Moral Wrong’. Yes, he said it.

So are you a man or a LYING MOUSE? Prove to me that he said he wants to ban contraception. BTW, the contraception issue was important to those who didn't want to force others to pay for it so I guess we know where you stand on that.
20 posted on 03/13/2013 8:53:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
I'm not ruling him out. But as a social conservative I have serious doubts.

I like him too but the libertarians are making the same mistake they always make and getting overexcited and self destructing while pulling the candidate down with them.
21 posted on 03/13/2013 8:57:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Santorum lost by 3% to Romney, unfortunately that’s not a tie. Romney got 41% of the vote, Santorum 38%. A good showing, but that’s not a tie.


22 posted on 03/13/2013 9:01:19 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark
The Michigan Republican Party (MRP) Credentials Committee voted 4-2 last night to give Mitt Romney both of the state's at-large delegates, State Policy Committee Chair Mike Cox told MIRS today.

Cox was one of two "no" votes on the committee which met via telephone, along with attorney Eric Doster The "yes" votes included GOP National Committeeman Saul Anuzis, a Romney supporter, and MRP Chair Bobby Schostak.

That would put the delegate split at 16 for Romney and 14 for Rick Santorum, after each candidate won 14 delegates apiece in those divided by Michigan's 14 congressional districts.

As MIRS first reported on Wednesday, the MRP was delaying a final decision on the delegate split until after consulting with attorneys.

Cox said that according to the MRP rules, Santorum and Romney should each get one of Michigan's two at-large delegates based on their take of the popular vote.

"I supported Mitt, but the vote was clearly wrong," Cox said of the Credentials Committee. "It's kind of like Third World voting. We published rules and then we voted to change the rules."

Because The Narrative Cannot Survive A Rewrite

23 posted on 03/13/2013 9:06:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Interesting. Romney still won by three percentage points. On that basis he tied Bambi, or maybe even won since that was closer to two percentage points....

:-)

24 posted on 03/13/2013 9:14:06 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

Whatever, I’m not going to argue about it. Cox lays it out clearly.


25 posted on 03/13/2013 9:16:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
You are not alone.
26 posted on 03/13/2013 9:21:16 AM PDT by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the RINOs.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

How’s that Newt working out for ya?

Last I checked he was pumping up gay marriage.


27 posted on 03/13/2013 9:48:52 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: pgkdan

Exactly, and last I checked he won as many states as Romney did in 2008.

Pity FReepers aren’t getting behind a solid conservative candidate who’s proven he can run a good campaign.


28 posted on 03/13/2013 9:50:56 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Rush Limbaugh figured it our early.

Rush: Romney is winning like a liberal

I knew this election would turn out the way it did.
29 posted on 03/13/2013 10:37:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 3Fingas
Lower the drinking age to 18. That will get quite a few young votes. That would also cause some problems, but electorally that’s a winning idea.

It used to be 18, how does it change how people vote?

30 posted on 03/13/2013 1:00:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Santorum was kicked out of his Senate seat by a larger margin than Christine O’Donnell lost in her rookie attempt to take Biden’s seat.

Santorum is a lifelong supporter of Arlen Specter who switched to Romney in 2008.

Santorum is very much like his man Romney, he was anti-Reagan, and became pro-life to run for office.


31 posted on 03/13/2013 1:04:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: pgkdan

Yes, the enemy media came after him. Like most Republicans —he was unready for it.

Just like the war on women etc. etc.

The media is the enemy and if you have strong opinions on social issues be ready to beat it.


32 posted on 03/13/2013 3:42:03 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: stanne

All very true.

But we have a power hungry socialist in the White House who is threatening many of our freedoms. He is dooming hundreds of thousands to poverty by his punishing economics. It is his party that is happy to firehose pornography into our culture.

We needed to end him - and confusing the issue just allowed him to be reelected.


33 posted on 03/13/2013 3:51:26 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: ansel12

He’s also solidly prolife, and unlike newt, doesn’t support Gay marriage. :D


34 posted on 03/13/2013 4:13:38 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: cripplecreek

So did I. Warn I did, Freepers, listen they did not.


35 posted on 03/13/2013 4:16:03 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

That’s just it, Santorum has always supported abortion behind the scenes, even endorsing removing life from the GOP platform in 1996, only a few years after he admits that he switched from his abortion position as he started his first run for office, just like Romney.


36 posted on 03/13/2013 4:20:39 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12

“has always supported abortion behind the scenes”.

So you’re a liar as well.

What other lies do you have?


37 posted on 03/13/2013 4:34:31 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Your ignorance does not make other people liars, and you can lay off the name calling and stay on the subject, or is this the kind of Christian support that Santorum attracts?


38 posted on 03/13/2013 4:40:10 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12

Stating that Rick Santorum has always supported abortion ‘behind the scenes’ is a filthy lie.

“you can lay off the name calling”

Liars Lie. ‘Rats gotta tax and ansel has to lie.


39 posted on 03/13/2013 4:47:01 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Have you ever wondered why Santorum fought tooth and nail to keep Arlen Specter in power, or even wanted to make him president, until finally the republicans managed to get rid of Specter, with Santorum then switching his allegiance to Mitt Romney?


40 posted on 03/13/2013 4:49:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12

Do you have a citation to your claim about Santorum?


41 posted on 03/13/2013 4:51:53 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ansel12

Have I wondered? No.

Now, why are you lying about your fellow brother in Christ?


42 posted on 03/13/2013 4:54:15 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Don’t bear false witness against me and call names just because you don’t know things.


43 posted on 03/13/2013 4:56:07 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: trisham

You mean like being anti-Reagan, or endorsing and campaigning for Arlen Specter’s presidential campaign calling for removing pro-life from the GOP, or his original identity of being a “progressive conservative” ?

Switching to life when he started his first campaign, supporting Specter even for the 2010 election until Specter actually became a democrat, something that you probably didn’t know?


44 posted on 03/13/2013 5:07:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12

No, I asked if you had a citation. Your opinion is very nice, but without documentation, it is only an opinion.


45 posted on 03/13/2013 5:09:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ansel12

“Don’t bear false witness against me and call names just because you don’t know things.”

What, for calling you a liar because you told a lie about Santorum? That’s not false witness. That’s the truth.


46 posted on 03/13/2013 5:27:57 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: trisham

Rather than writing a book and hoping to cover what you wanted, I was asking you what specifically you wanted to know about. I will just make my own decision and cover the Specter for President part.

Here is video of Senator Santorum on stage with Arlen Specter, as Specter is announcing his Presidential run, based on making the GOP a pro-abortion party, Rick Santorum endorsed him, and campaigned for him and his platform.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/64281-1

Transcript Highlights:
Santorum is seen nodding and applauding at Specter’s side:

3:46 mark: “In 1996, I intend to win the other house — the White House — with ten commitments to America… including a woman’s right to choose…

13:22 mark: “Even though we have this historic opportunity for these achievements, there are those in our party who would lead us down a different path — and squander this unique moment in our nation’s history — by using our political capital — to pursue a radical social agenda — that would end a woman’s right to choose…

13:48 mark: “When Pat Robertson says there is no constitutional doctrine of separation between Church and State, I say he is wrong…

14:31 mark: “When Ralph Reed says a pro-choice Republican isn’t qualified to be our President, I say the Republican Party will not be intimidated or blackmailed by those kinds of threats.I, and millions of other pro-choice Republicans, will not be disenfranchised and made second class citizens.

15:33 mark: “… it is not Christian, or religious, or Judeo-Christian to bring God into politics; or to advocate intolerance and promote exclusion.

15:54 mark: “I want to take abortion out of politics. I want to keep the Republican Party focused on the vital economic and foreign policy issues — and leave moral issues such as abortion to the conscience of the individual. I believe abortion is an issue to be decided by women…

16:40 mark: “I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform…”


47 posted on 03/13/2013 5:28:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12

Not a single word from Santorum, all your quotes are from Arlen Specter, a fact you don’t attribute.

Gosh. I guess that makes you a liar.


48 posted on 03/13/2013 5:36:40 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge
You didn't see Santorum on stage as a prominent endorsement of those words?

Santorum was at Specter's announcement of his presidential run and of his agenda, as a prominent supporter and endorser of it.

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49 posted on 03/13/2013 5:47:47 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12

Yes, and? You said that he supported Abortion, not Spectre.


50 posted on 03/13/2013 5:57:02 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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