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Marine with concealed carry permit stops man from beating woman
Fox Six News ^ | March 13, 2013 | Henry Rosoff

Posted on 03/13/2013 8:49:13 AM PDT by reallyconcerned

WEST ALLIS (WITI) — A Marine Corps veteran was able to stop a man early Tuesday, March 12th from nearly kicking a woman to death. It happened near 102nd and Lincoln, and Wisconsin’s concealed carry law made his efforts possible.

Charlie Blackmore was driving home from work at 4:00 a.m. along Lincoln Avenue when he saw something on the sidewalk. Blackmore didn’t realize it was a woman on the ground being kicked in the head and stomach until he got closer.

That’s when he jumped out of his car and sprung into action.

“I said ‘stop’ and he starts coming towards me and that`s when I drew on him. He started getting closer and I said ‘get down on the ground,’” Blackmore said.

Blackmore held his gun on the suspect and called West Allis police. He says several times while waiting for police to arrive, the attacker moved toward him.

“I mean I’ve already made it up in mind that if he came at me I was going to have to take him down and I told him that. I warned him multiple times not to come towards me because he was a big guy and I wasn’t playing around and he didn’t seem like he was playing around,” Blackmore said.

Blackmore says police eventually showed up and had to force the suspect to the ground. They then asked to see Blackmore’s concealed carry permit.

“I put my hands up turned around and said ‘you can grab it out of my wallet.’ Checked my permit, gave me my wallet back, and then interviewed me for their paperwork,” Blackmore said.

West Allis police say that paperwork is not yet available. For that reason, the name of the attacker and his victim have not yet been released.

“She had a really big laceration by her eye and it looked like her nose was broken,” Blackmore said.

Blackmore didn’t catch any names either, but said the victim told him the man is an ex-boyfriend.

“She was not with him anymore and he had stalked her that day or something and he attacked her on her way to work,” Blackmore said.

Blackmore says situations like this are why he supports Wisconsin’s concealed carry law, and the rights of gun owners.

“We do good things. Not all of us are bad or crazy gun nuts. There are good people,” Blackmore said.

The West Allis police chief says these types of situations really are judgement calls for gun owners. While they don’t encourage this behavior, they appreciate citizens watching out for each other as long as they do it legally and are willing to accept the consequences.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; concealedcarry; domesticviolence; guncontrol; news; secondamendment; veteran

1 posted on 03/13/2013 8:49:13 AM PDT by reallyconcerned
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To: reallyconcerned

Adding, “ARMEDCITIZEN,” to keyword list.


2 posted on 03/13/2013 8:52:17 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: reallyconcerned

They can stick their “consequences” where the sun don’t shine!


3 posted on 03/13/2013 8:52:19 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: reallyconcerned
While they don’t encourage this behavior, they appreciate citizens watching out for each other as long as they do it legally and are willing to accept the consequences.

From the mouths of the ruling class Jack Boots, to our ears.....Anyone got any questions about what's wrong in this country?

4 posted on 03/13/2013 8:53:07 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog

Has anybody thought to seek a comment from the Milwaukee County Sheriff?


5 posted on 03/13/2013 8:57:18 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: reallyconcerned

Marine with concealed carry permit stops man from beating woman

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Gotta love these headlines. Who writes this stuff?

I’m guessing - by the headline only - that the marine whips out his permit and the perp runs away.

Now... on to reading the article.


6 posted on 03/13/2013 8:59:35 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: reallyconcerned
Marine with concealed carry permit stops man from beating woman

How dare he stop the beating!?? Why is he interfering in other people's personal business!!??

/extreme sarcasm

(General observation, not specificlly related to the story) It is the epitome of irony that the left wants to disarm ordinary citizens (except themselves, of course) but, when they are the victims of violence, they are happy to see someone with a gun come to their rescue!

7 posted on 03/13/2013 9:00:53 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: blackdog

Translation: A citizen who is disarmed and stands by and watches while a woman is potentially being kicked to death is preferable to an armed citizen who will stop the attack.


8 posted on 03/13/2013 9:01:07 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: blackdog

I daresay that if Blackmore did have to shoot this guy - he’d be in jail right now facing charges.

I’d hate to have to consider risking my entire future over involving myself in someone else’s domestic abuse problems.


9 posted on 03/13/2013 9:03:44 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: RandallFlagg

Headline: “Drug dispute, 4 shot, 2 dead.” Instant campaign against all guns by ususal suspects.
Headline: “Legal, licensed gun owner saves life of badly beaten woman.” Instant sound of silence from the usual suspects.


10 posted on 03/13/2013 9:11:14 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: reallyconcerned

What a heartwarming story! I love a happy ending.


11 posted on 03/13/2013 9:14:45 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Lucky it wasn’t in Milwaukee proper. Didn’t the chief of police there say he’d have his “troops” put them on the ground first and then “worry” about permits later? (Is West Allis part of milwackee jurisdiction? Not sure.) And, yet again, no cops in sight to stop this attack. When seconds count................. The clean up crew arrives a half hour later. Good thing he didn’t have to pop the perp. Ex gfriend would have turned on the citizen cause she used to “luv” the big lummox.


12 posted on 03/13/2013 9:15:50 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: blackdog

It floored me the the police would say that. So if the Marine had been carrying without a permit, it would have been preferrable that the woman get kicked to death?


13 posted on 03/13/2013 9:15:53 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: reallyconcerned
WEST ALLIS ?

I once had a prolonged relationship with LARGE ALICE courtesy an arranged marriage by Uncle Sugar.

14 posted on 03/13/2013 9:16:22 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“I’d hate to have to consider risking my entire future over involving myself in someone else’s domestic abuse problems.”

It would really bother me forever if I didn’t help her


15 posted on 03/13/2013 9:25:38 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Rannug

I can see that. I agree. Who knows what you or I would have done. We weren’t there. But I’d like to think I would have stopped the beat down. Told the victim to get in and I would take her to a safe place and call 911.

Even at this.... I imagine having to draw against the perp.


16 posted on 03/13/2013 9:31:17 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: blackdog

>>> While they don’t encourage this behavior

Of course, police shouldn’t ‘encourage’ your ex to beat you or kick you in the head and stomach......

oh, never mind.


17 posted on 03/13/2013 9:31:41 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: blackdog
While they don’t encourage this behavior, they appreciate citizens watching out for each other as long as they do it legally and are willing to accept the consequences.

WT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

While those officers were off citing someone for a traffic violation, Mr. Blackmore was saving this woman from having her head kicked in.

They should be giving him the keys to the city and deputizing him.

18 posted on 03/13/2013 9:35:36 AM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: reallyconcerned
While they don’t encourage this behavior, they appreciate citizens watching out for each other as long as they do it legally and are willing to accept the consequences.

IOW - stay out of it. When we (leos) finally show up, we'll clean the mess and do the paper work...

19 posted on 03/13/2013 9:41:07 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: rktman

West Allis is indeed in Milwaukee Co.


20 posted on 03/13/2013 9:47:33 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

What I was wondering was, does West Allis have it’s own seperate PD or is it the milwackee PD that would have responded. I think I knew it was all in the same county. Like the sheriff. Don’t like the chief of MPD. (his excuse is that he came from massachewsits)


21 posted on 03/13/2013 9:52:36 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: rktman

The article states that our hero phoned the West Allis Police and they responded. The county sheriff may have gotten involved at some point, but West Allis got the collar.


22 posted on 03/13/2013 9:55:32 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: reallyconcerned

Kudos to the jarhead, the Chief not so much,


23 posted on 03/13/2013 9:57:48 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jonno

It’s a miracle that the LEOs didn’t shoot the Marine dead as a matter of protocol.
In some places they seem to consider the murder of American Veterans as some sort of recreational sport.

Since the Marine wasn’t charged with a hate crime for his meddling, may I assume that racial differences were not a factor?

Despite the perp possibly being able to beat the Marine as well as his ex to death, had the Marine capped an “unarmed” assailant we might have seen another Trayvon furor erupt.

Now if that woman only had a whistle to blow, surely none of this would have happened. /s


24 posted on 03/13/2013 10:00:02 AM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: rktman

West Allis does have its own police department. Chief of MPD is a typical liberal.


25 posted on 03/13/2013 10:00:24 AM PDT by reallyconcerned
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To: Responsibility2nd
I’d hate to have to consider risking my entire future over involving myself in someone else’s domestic abuse problems

Yea, I know what you mean.

When I took my mandatory CCW class, we discussed a hypothetical situation similar to what occured here. It really made us think about whether or not to involve ourselves in a situation in which we don't know what lead up to the event.

That was a time when most of the folks didn't have cell phones so standing by and calling 911 wasn't an option........

26 posted on 03/13/2013 10:00:32 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: reallyconcerned

bkmk


27 posted on 03/13/2013 10:07:07 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Girlene
So if the Marine had been carrying without a permit, it would have been preferrable that the woman get kicked to death?

In that case he should have just shot the perp and disappeared.

28 posted on 03/13/2013 10:14:14 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: reallyconcerned
While they don’t encourage this behavior...

He saved a woman from being beaten to death and they don't encourage this behavior? Why the hell not police chief?

29 posted on 03/13/2013 10:19:02 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: reallyconcerned

AKA: radical left wing extremist demokkkrat scumbag.


30 posted on 03/13/2013 10:54:33 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: reallyconcerned

In West Allis, there is a 67% chance that the woman on the ground and the perp vote democrat. And a 99% chance if they happened to be black. Not sure I would risk my life and liberty to save any democrat from anything. And don’t tell me that the experience might change their point of view - it won’t, lefty thought is a genetic defect.


31 posted on 03/13/2013 10:59:08 AM PDT by zagger
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To: reallyconcerned

God bless this marine.


32 posted on 03/13/2013 11:01:58 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Hot Tabasco

In his shoes, I would die in prison knowing I saved a defenseless woman’s life than answer to my Lord why I was a coward unable to follow His Word. That’s where the Disciples went wrong, right?

“Deliver those who are drawn toward death, And hold back those stumbling to the slaughter.” - Proverbs 24:11


33 posted on 03/13/2013 11:04:32 AM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: zagger

In West Allis, there is a 67% chance that the woman on the ground and the perp vote democrat. And a 99% chance if they happened to be black. Not sure I would risk my life and liberty to save any democrat from anything. And don’t tell me that the experience might change their point of view - it won’t, lefty thought is a genetic defect.


Posts and attitudes like this are NOT good, just my two cents.


34 posted on 03/13/2013 11:11:54 AM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Rannug

It would really bother me forever if I didn’t help her
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Yes, when one is a ‘decent human being’ that is the first thing that crosses one’s (my) mind.
While I realize that we don’t REALLY know what the reaction will be in a real time situation, I have often told people that know I carry (specifically in a bank) that while I am on the premises, they can feel just a tad safer than usual but if a ‘regular’ robbery is taking place, I will be following orders (or laying in the corner ‘sobbing’ and tending to my ‘fake heart attack’) until it appears the situation is ‘turning south’.
Granted, that is a fine line but.......
I did tell the bank MGR, (young W guy) that if I go into my ‘act’ don’t worry about it or point it out, I am merely positioning myself for the ‘Central (Frontal- if possible) mass shot’, to much ‘splainin to do if you shoot the SOB in the back.

Premeditated? Not really.
Pre Planned? Yes, ALL situations and possible situations, while driving, walking, carrying etc should have a scenario to be hopefully carried out—successfully if possible.


35 posted on 03/13/2013 11:17:32 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --I turn 75 next year- but remember, that's only 24 Celsius. (TKS R. Reagan))
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To: George Varnum

“blow a whistle”

Most unarmed citizens won’t face the “consequences” of confronting an assailant.

Blowing a whistle MIGHT alert someone to call the cops. The irony is that those advocating whistle blowing - while at the same time advocating disarming those who might come to their aide - are truly “blowing in the wind”...


36 posted on 03/13/2013 11:19:15 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: yield 2 the right; zagger

I’m with you. I live and work among Democrats and liberals, and they can change. Anybody can, as God grants it. It’s not my call to decide whether someone should live or die based on their political beliefs. We are all made in God’s image. And if it comes to open war, there are rules for that. But its better to make peace when you can, and when you’re armed, you can. Generally speaking.


37 posted on 03/13/2013 11:42:18 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Glad to know I am not alone.


38 posted on 03/13/2013 12:00:45 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: George Varnum

It’s a miracle that the LEOs didn’t shoot the Marine dead as a matter of protocol.

Good thing the marine wasnt walking his dog. they would both be dead.


39 posted on 03/13/2013 12:29:17 PM PDT by bikerman ("A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don't have it you wont need one again.)
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To: yield 2 the right

“Posts and attitudes like this are NOT good, just my two cents.”

It does not take much imagination to come up a scenario where this situation could have gone very badly for the marine. If the two people fighting are married, the woman could suddenly come to the perp’s defense once the cops arrive and give a story that makes the marine the aggressor. The perp could have attacked the marine using his bare hands and put the marine in the same situation as Zimmerman - especially if the perp is black. Or what if the perp is mentally disabled in some fashion - “armed marine attacks mentally handicapped man”. Bottom line is that the marine did a well intentioned but foolish thing. It could have ended very badly for him. It would have been much smarter to stay at a distance and call the cops, no matter how slow they are about responding. In my opinion, the danger in interfering goes up significantly when you are in a community that does not share your philosophical beliefs or attitudes. I do not want to go to the edge to defend a left wing progressive only to have that person, who fundamentally disagrees with me every important issue including personal responsibility, accuse me of being the problem. I don’t trust them and I won’t fight for them.


40 posted on 03/13/2013 12:59:49 PM PDT by zagger
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To: zagger

You are free to act as you wish.


41 posted on 03/13/2013 1:06:45 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: yield 2 the right

“You are free to act as you wish.”

Ok, thanks.
Here is a real-life example of my point. When I was in college I was walking back to my dorm room at night when I came across two drunk hockey jocks (per their jackets) beating the crap out of a long haired hippy dude laying on the ground. The hippy’s three chicken hippy friends were standing nearby too afraid to interfere. So I dived into the fight (no gun), freed the hippy dude who then proceeded to run away with his 3 friends without so much as a “thanks” or “see ya, sucker”. Leaving me to get beaten up by the two jocks. Shoulda just let the hippy take the beating!


42 posted on 03/13/2013 1:24:16 PM PDT by zagger
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’d hate to have to consider risking my entire future over involving myself in someone else’s domestic abuse problems.


That is exactly what liberals want Americans to become. Fearful and passive in the face of their supporters - thugs, criminals and bullies.


43 posted on 03/13/2013 3:36:49 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Paladin2

I was thinking the same thing! This is exactly what Sheriff Clarke was talking about. While Blackmore was not personally in danger before he got out of his car, had he just called the cops, that woman might of been beaten to death.

I wonder how long police response time was. The West Allis police station is exactly 11 blocks away from incident.
I was born and raised in West Allis.


44 posted on 03/13/2013 8:42:32 PM PDT by jodster36
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To: rktman

West Allis is in Milwaukee county. They have their own PD. Milwaukee county sheriffs only get in on big things.


45 posted on 03/13/2013 9:24:20 PM PDT by jodster36
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To: zagger
zagger said: "I don’t trust them and I won’t fight for them."

To what you said, I would add, "and I resent like hell having my tax dollars supporting them."

46 posted on 03/13/2013 9:35:53 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: jodster36

Thanks. Got it straight now. Still prefer the sheriff to the copolice of mpd.


47 posted on 03/13/2013 9:36:47 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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