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Magazine ban among five Democratic gun control bills passed by Senate (2 State Sen. Will Not Obey)
kwgn ^ | 10:28 pm, March 11, 2013, | Eli Stokols

Posted on 03/13/2013 10:28:25 AM PDT by Red Steel

DENVER — After another eight hours of debate, the Colorado Senate passed five Democratic gun control bills Monday.

The fifth and final vote came after four hours of discussion of House Bill 1224, a ban on high-capacity magazines of 15 rounds or more, which passed on a vote of 18-17.

Two Democrats, Sen. Lois Tochtrop of Thornton and Sen. Cheri Jahn of Wheat Ridge, joined Republicans in voting no.

Republicans argued at length against the two most important measures: House Bill 1229, which mandates universal background checks on all gun sales, and the high-capacity magazine ban, both of which have the backing of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the advocacy group founded and funded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

“The de facto governor of Colorado is Michael Bloomberg,” said an angry Senate Minority Leader Bill Cadman, R-Colorado Springs, expressing a frustration widely held among Colorado Republicans that the state’s Democrats are being controlled by outside political forces.

Earlier in the day, the universal background checks bill passed the Senate 19-16, after about two hours of debate, with Tochtrop the only Democrat voting no.

“This bill will do absolutely nothing to improve the safety of the citizens of Colorado,” said Sen. Greg Brophy, R-Wray.

Republicans, who spent five hours arguing against the magazine ban on the floor last Friday, reiterated their objections; and Brophy offered a new one: that the ban will ban “the most popular gun sold in the United States”, the glock pistol, because the gun’s magazine is readily adaptable to hold more rounds.

“You can still buy the pistol in the state, but it becomes a paperweight,” Brophy said. “Because it takes a magazine to feed it.”

Brophy and Sen. Vicki Marble, R-Fort Collins, both stated emphatically that they will refuse to follow the tenets of the law, once it take effect.

“House Bill 1224 is an abomination to our freedoms,” said Marble.

Democrats let Republicans do most of the talking throughout the 20-plus hours of Senate debate on these bills. That didn’t change Monday, but Democrats did send their best orator, Sen. Mike Johnston, D-Denver, to the well to defend the magazine ban.

“Any society that holds more than one value, holds no value absolutely,” Johnston said, arguing that the Second Amendment, like all Constitutional rights, has its limits.

Johnston also spoke emotionally about the Newtown, Conn school shooting, noting that the only victims who were spared were those who escaped as the gunman finally reloaded.

“Every single bullet mattered. Because he put the gun to the head of a 5-year-old, one after the other, and made sure he never missed,” Johnston said.

“In that 11 seconds when he reloaded, 11 kids got away. What if that were a 15-round mag. We could have picked 11 of those little five foot coffins and chosen not to fill them.”

Later, an angry Sen. Jessie Ulibarri, D-Adams County, excoriated his Republican colleagues for not taking a stand against the threats that have been made against him, his family and other lawmakers.

“This has not been a civil debate,” Ulibarri said. “I’ve had someone tell me that they’re a law-abiding citizen and then tell me that they hope my two-year-old gets raped. I’ve had someone email me to say they bought a gun to keep Mexicans like me out of Colorado.

“This has not been a civil discourse.”

Three bills pass Senate with less opposition

H.B. 1229 was the third bill to officially pass.

Republicans spent little time arguing against Senate Bill 197, which restricts domestic violence offenders and those facing protection orders from possessing firearms.

The bill, which is important to Democrats’ future political messaging on the subject of gun control, passed on a 20-15 party-line vote Monday morning.

Moments later, Senate Bill 195, which closes the loophole that allows people to get concealed weapons permits by taking classes online, passed on a 22-13 bipartisna vote with two Republicans joining Democrats voting yes.

After a break for lunch, lawmakers returned and approved House Bill 1228, which imposes a small fee to cover the cost of gun background checks. The vote was 19-16 with only Democratic Sen. Andy Kerr of Lakewood joining Republicans voting no.

That bill is the only one of the five that is now heading to Gov. Hickenlooper’s desk.

The other four bills head over to the House: the two Senate bills that have yet to be heard by the House; and the two House bills, already approved by the House but amended in the Senate, must be re-approved by lawmakers there.


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; californicated; communism; communists; coup; guncontrol; progressiveagenda; secondamendment

1 posted on 03/13/2013 10:28:25 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Maybe Bloomberg can send Colorado an annual stipend to make up for all the business and taxes the state will lose. On the other hand, what is the price of freedom?
2 posted on 03/13/2013 10:34:27 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Red Steel

Senator Brophy R-Wray:

“I’m telling you right now: I will not obey this law,” . “I will willfully and purposefully and civilly disobey this law.”

Who was joined by Senator Marble.


3 posted on 03/13/2013 10:35:12 AM PDT by Red Steel ( --)
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To: Red Steel
“The de facto governor of Colorado is Michael Bloomberg,”

True, and unfortunate.

4 posted on 03/13/2013 10:35:40 AM PDT by grobdriver (Vivere liberi aut mori)
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To: Red Steel
. . . excoriated his Republican colleagues for not taking a stand against the threats that have been made against him, his family and other lawmakers . . . “This has not been a civil debate,” . . . “I’ve had someone tell me that they’re a law-abiding citizen and then tell me that they hope my two-year-old gets raped. I’ve had someone email me to say they bought a gun to keep Mexicans like me out of Colorado.

I do not bear this evil tyrant's family any ill will, but I would have no sympathy if he found himself facing an armed criminal and no armed law-abiding citizens were around. No, the debate is not civil, not when thugs try to take our freedom and infringe on a fundamental God-given right that cannot lawfully be infringed upon.

5 posted on 03/13/2013 10:37:58 AM PDT by Pollster1
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To: Red Steel
Keep electing those Democrat Party candidates!
6 posted on 03/13/2013 10:39:39 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: Red Steel
I used to go skiing in Colorado every year or two...

Not anymore.

7 posted on 03/13/2013 10:54:00 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Sicon

I’ve lost track here. Besides the ones described here, what other if any have they passed?


8 posted on 03/13/2013 10:55:43 AM PDT by FAA
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To: Pollster1
I do not bear this evil tyrant's family any ill will

Yeah, well, I bear the tyrant plenty of "ill will". And I really don't care one way or the other about his family. Any more than I care about Chavez or Castro's families. Not even on the radar.

What is it you don't get about the term "evil tyrant"? This is a war, and he is coming after you.

These people consider gun owners to be political dissidents that need to be disarmed and re-educated by any means necessary.

Nothing to do with crime. Crushing political opposition is what this is about.

9 posted on 03/13/2013 10:57:47 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Sicon

Roger that. The once great state of co is now off the list. UT, NV, WY have some nice places. East coast? Not a friggin’ chance. Do you suppose Magpul needs any help packing their stuff?


10 posted on 03/13/2013 11:02:13 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Yeah, well, I bear the tyrant plenty of "ill will". And I really don't care one way or the other about his family. Any more than I care about Chavez or Castro's families. Not even on the radar.

As long as the tyrant will soon be out of the way, why hold it against the 2 y/o? The dad is evil, and he will probably, eventually, lead the child astray, but for now she is an innocent. The difference between us and liberals is supposed to be that we protect the innocent.

11 posted on 03/13/2013 11:16:32 AM PDT by Pollster1
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To: FAA

http://www.rmgo.org/images/finalCOSenateVotes.pdf


12 posted on 03/13/2013 11:46:55 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: Red Steel

The leftist extremists have expressed their hatred. Now, they’d better hope none of us patriots stoops to their level.


13 posted on 03/13/2013 1:03:20 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Red Steel
...the Colorado Senate passed five Democratic gun control bills Monday.

Get involved in recall efforts.

14 posted on 03/13/2013 2:08:40 PM PDT by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: Red Steel
"Republicans spent little time arguing against Senate Bill 197, which restricts domestic violence offenders and those facing protection orders from possessing firearms.

The bill, which is important to Democrats’ future political messaging on the subject of gun control, passed on a 20-15 party-line vote Monday morning.
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There go the fortunes and lives of the remaining few big conservative CO contributors, and they don't even see it coming over the next few years. They don't really know or understand the incentives for some of their watchful "peers." I'm going to avoid observing the sickening process this time, having seen many other once-successful professionals and other independent folks go through it before (in other states, where local law enforcement helped to enforce the existing federal VAWA).


15 posted on 03/13/2013 3:48:57 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Pollster1

I wish no harm to the kids, but I didn’t choose their daddy. Whatever crap he brings down on them by his actions is on his head.

We do protect the innocent. But make no mistake, MY family ALWAYS comes first.

Anyway, it’s not like my feelings towards him are going to harm or benefit his children. I’m just not spending emotional capital on them.


16 posted on 03/13/2013 6:58:57 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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