Skip to comments.Jorge Mario Bergoglio is elected Pope Francis
Posted on 03/13/2013 12:29:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Francis Xavier was one of the original seven who followed Ignatius, who founded the Society of Jesus.
They change their names to honor a predecessor, or to point the direction that they hope their governance will take. Catholics are big on taking new names at important junctures of their spiritual lives — Baptism, Confirmation, Holy Orders, etc.
Since he is Francis I, I suppose that he means to emphasize humility in his leadership. He already is knnown as a man of the people.
My question is why he is designated Francis I? Just plain Francis should be sufficient until there is a Francis II.
First, it wasn't Nostradamus, it was the 12th‑century Archbishop of Armagh, Malacy who's prophecy you refer to.
In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit [i.e., as bishop]. Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills [i.e. Rome] will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The End.
Certainly these are trying times for the Church. I've heard numerous pundits refer to the new pope as someone solid, confident, and etc. I take it he is solid/strong/unmoving in his beliefs/actions, i.e., like a rock ( Pretrus ), the word Jesus used to describe Simon.
As for his Roman attribute, his surname, Bergoglio, speaks to that.
"The Roman Rock"
We're not out of the woods yet!
First American Pope -- South American!
I, too, was thrilled when I learned he is a Jesuit.
Most Popes are usually older men. Just recently with John Paul II was a rare exception to be elected in his late 50's.
I think they look for an experienced cardinal that already has an idea what needs to be done and will have maybe 10 years to do it.
A Jesuit Pope indicates to me that maybe the cardinals think the Jesuits need to be reigned in.
A cardinal from South America indicates to me that a large part of the Catholic population is in South America and also that maybe all of the dictatorships/socialist countries/narcotics hellholes in South America need some attention.
The Cardinals may have had in mind a 5-10 year project window for Francis getting the church back on track and then, a new Pope.
Perhaps someone who at least is in their mid to late 50's or 60's seems reasonable.
That's why we're constantly making more..
A guy a I work with was part of a “church” that said the world would end two years ago - I told him he must be a big hit at parties and what did his children think about their lives coming to an end - two years later still no end.
I hope you have a long life. Might want to pray again - after the floods I am sure you will find where God noted he would not destroy the world again.
But is there is a knowledgeable religious folks that are here to correct me.
Of course he’s an American — a South American, born in Argentina.
"Nooooo. But I'll let others 'splain."
The Jesuits and Franciscans have a sort of rivalry - lot of jokes made about them some time ago.
I always thought the Jesuits were pretty tough and the Franciscans were a little loose.
I really could be way off.
To think that the First Pope was appointed by Jesus Christ himself is amazing. What an incredible lineage!
Viva Il Papa...
Argentines feel more connected to Europe than to the New World.
Pope Francis has a weird thing going with numbers:
21 02 2001 - Created Cardinal
13 03 2013 - Became Pope.
I’m impressed with his views. VERY impressed.
Also LOVE his new name.
Although I’m not a Catholic, I will keep Pope Francis in my prayers. He will need as much as possible.
God Bless him.
I’m concerned with his views on so called, “social justice” and the problems he has with the free market system.
About time we had a South American Pope. Lots of good Catholics in that part of the world. Good to see one of there own as Shepard of the flock. God bless him!
I don’t think a 30 year old has lived long enough to know what a Pope should know...........
A good choice.
He's been a Cardinal for 12 years.
Jesuits tend to be more into Leftist, social and economic justice causes.
I don’t know exactly what this man stands for, but the Jesuit educational insitutions in this country are really Lefty (Notre Dame, Marquette, Georgetown etc)
We will see.
There is a British film from 1986 about the Jesuits at their best: “The Mission”.
The film is set in the 1750s and involves Spanish Jesuit priest Father Gabriel (played by Jeremy Irons) who enters the South American jungle to build a mission and convert a Guaraní community to Christianity. This film comes highly recommended... http://artsandfaith.com/t100/
The Guaraní survive today in Paraguay.
Found this in a lengthy, article from the previous Papal selection - the link to the entire piece follows. Very enlightening.
“JORGE MARIO BERGOGLIO. Archbishop of Buenos Aires, 69 years of age, born in Argentina to parents who had emigrated from the Italian region of Piemonte. Since 2002 he has continually been the Latin American cardinal with the best probability of being elected, in spite of never having lifted a finger to present himself as a candidate: in the conclave, it is Ratzingers party that would launch his candidacy. As a bishop, instead of sermons on social justice he preached to the
Argentines in the thick of economic disaster that they should put into practice the ten commandments and the Gospel beatitudes.”
Dear Lord, guide our course.
He is Roman, because he is Italian, and also because the Holy See is now in Rome.
The Peter part I have yet to understand, but, Malachy's other mottoes were not only similarly opaque, some were a pretty good reach.
Maybe the Rock refers to the Office itself.
Maybe it refers to his obstinacy, which we have yet to see...
He could still be Peter the Roman.
I like him already, we share the same birthday (not year of course LOL).
More of Pope Francis’ views.......
Sounds like we got the right man.
“In our ecclesiastical region there are priests who don’t baptize the children of single mothers because they weren’t conceived in the sanctity of marriage,” Bergoglio told his priests. “These are today’s hypocrites. Those who clericalize the Church. Those who separate the people of God from salvation. And this poor girl who, rather than returning the child to sender, had the courage to carry it into the world, must wander from parish to parish so that it’s baptized!”
Bergoglio compared this concept of Catholicism to the Pharisees of Christ’s time: people who congratulate themselves while condemning others.
“Jesus teaches us another way: Go out. Go out and share your testimony, go out and interact with your brothers, go out and share, go out and ask. Become the Word in body as well as spirit,” Bergoglio said”
And, no one is suggesting a 30 year old be elected as Pope. I’m disheartened to know you think any age over 30 is on the down slide of life. Especially since I’m a couple decades past 30. ;-(
You’ve been hoaxed.
Try finding their original source.
well, he is 76, looks like we will be doing this all over again in a short 9 or ten years. wont many of us be retired by then?
Yesterday, this article appeared in the St. Louis Review by Carol Zimmermann of CNS. Talk about prophetic! From the article ...
Cardinal Bergoglio, who has also been mentioned as a possible contender in the current conclave, has had a growing reputation as a very spiritual man with a talent for pastoral leadership serving in a region with the largest number of the world's Catholics.
He rides the bus, visits the poor, lives in a simple apartment and cooks his own meals. To many in Buenos Aires, he is known simply as "Father Jorge."
The cardinal has also written books on spirituality and meditation and has been outspoken against abortion and same-sex marriages.
Unbelievable - not believe in God?
Maybe that is part of what has made the Catholic Church susceptible to sex scandals, Vatican Bank, etc.
I'm putting my faith in Pope Francis I - hope he doesn't let us down.
Pray for Pope Francis I.
A couple of decades? You’re a kid! LOL!
Pope Frances is 20 days younger than I.
I believe you are mistaken, he just had his birthday 3/11/13.
Are you sure about that? Did you read the first line in this posted article?
Jorge Mario Bergoglio, SJ (born December 17, 1936) is the current pope of the Roman Catholic Church, elected on March 13, 2013, and taking the regnal name of Francis I.
I believe YOU are mistaken.....Jorge Mario Bergoglio, SJ (born December 17, 1936)
“Let’s pray for whole world that there be brotherhood. I hope this journey of the church we begin today is fruitful for evangelization.” - Pope Francis I
He was NOT on the list of those considered “papabili” by the media and Vatican watchers.
Francis was a surprise choice and the cardinals outfoxed every one. He won on the fifth ballot.
I am shocked Father Dougal McGuire had the same odds as Dawkins!
At last, after all these years we can again say that the bear is Italian!
He had a forth cousin, thrice removed, who lived next door to a guy named Peter.
That seals, it, he's the guy in the Malacy prophecy.
Chavez had to die first before a Latina became pope...
Thank you Sarah Barracuda, for your kind words. Today is a good day for believers.
And Saint Francis was a truly great one, founding a great order, service to others, poverty, philosophy of love and service to God and man.
With life expectancy today what it is, he could serve 15 to 20 years.
But the papacy is not for a man who can’t lead. Its a very big job and it can wear out even the toughest of spirits.
We Catholics have been through it over and over again for centuries.
Read the thread, slick. Several are quicker than you at nitpicking arithmetic.
Thanks very much for finding and posting that article from 2005. God bless and keep you.
God be with our new Pope Francis.
God bless and keep Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI
While there is some controversy as to Pretrus Romanus being in the original prediction, you're right, he IS the guy who completes Malachy's prophecy.