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Jorge Mario Bergoglio is elected Pope Francis
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Posted on 03/13/2013 12:29:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Publius

LOL thats a good one! From what I understand about Pope Francis, he is socially Conservative, against abortion, and against same sex marriage, so thats good


51 posted on 03/13/2013 12:45:08 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Ax

From Wikipedia:

Early life

Jorge Bergoglio was born in Buenos Aires, one of the five children of an Italian railway worker and his wife. After studying at the seminary in Villa Devoto, he entered the Society of Jesus on March 11, 1958. Bergoglio obtained a licentiate in philosophy from the Colegio Máximo San José in San Miguel, and then taught literature and psychology at the Colegio de la Inmaculada in Santa Fe, and the Colegio del Salvador in Buenos Aires. He was ordained to the priesthood on December 13, 1969, by Archbishop Ramón José Castellano. He attended the Philosophical and Theological Faculty of San Miguel, a seminary in San Miguel. Bergoglio attained the position of novice master there and became professor of theology.

Impressed with his leadership skills, the Society of Jesus promoted Bergoglio and he served as provincial for Argentina from 1973 to 1979. He was transferred in 1980 to become the rector of the seminary in San Miguel where he had studied. He served in that capacity until 1986. He completed his doctoral dissertation in Germany and returned to his homeland to serve as confessor and spiritual director in Córdoba.

Bergoglio succeeded Cardinal Quarracino on February 28, 1998. He was concurrently named ordinary for Eastern Catholics in Argentina, who lacked their own prelate. Pope John Paul II summoned the newly named archbishop to the consistory of February 21, 2001 in Vatican City and elevated Bergoglio with the papal honors of a cardinal. He was named to the Cardinal-Priest of Saint Robert Bellarmino.

Cardinal

As cardinal, Bergoglio was appointed to several administrative positions in the Roman Curia. He served on the Congregation of Clergy, Congregation of Divine Worship and Sacraments, Congregation of Institutes of Consecrated Life and the Congregation of Societies of Apostolic Life. Bergoglio became a member of the Commission on Latin American and the Family Council.

As Cardinal, Bergoglio became known for personal humility, doctrinal conservatism and a commitment to social justice. A simple lifestyle has contributed to his reputation for humility. He lives in a small apartment, rather than in the palatial bishop’s residence. He gave up his chauffeured limousine in favor of public transportation, and he reportedly cooks his own meals.

Upon the death of Pope John Paul II, Bergoglio, considered papabile himself, participated in the 2005 papal conclave as a cardinal elector, the conclave that selected Pope Benedict XVI. A widespread theory says that he was in a close race with Ratzinger until he emotionally asked that the cardinals not vote for him.[3] Earlier, he had participated in the funeral of Pope John Paul II and acted as a regent alongside the College of Cardinals, governing the Holy See and the Roman Catholic Church during the interregnum sede vacante period.

During the 2005 Synod of Bishops, he was elected a member of the Post-Synodal council. Catholic journalist John L. Allen, Jr. reported that Bergoglio was a frontrunner in the 2005 Conclave. An unauthorized diary of uncertain authenticity released in September 2005[4] confirmed that Bergogolio was the runner-up and main challenger of Cardinal Ratzinger at that conclave. The purported diary of the anonymous cardinal claimed Bergoglio received 40 votes in the third ballot, but fell back to 26 at the fourth and decisive ballot.

On November 8, 2005, Bergoglio was elected President of the Argentine Episcopal Conference for a three-year term (2005–2008) by a large majority of the Argentine bishops, which according to reports confirms his local leadership and the international prestige earned by his alleged performance in the conclave. He was reelected on November 11, 2008.

Views

Abortion and euthanasia

Cardinal Bergoglio has invited his clergy and laity to oppose both abortion and euthanasia.

Homosexuality

He has affirmed church teaching on homosexuality, though he teaches the importance of respecting individuals who are homosexual. He strongly opposed legislation introduced in 2010 by the Argentine Government to allow same-sex marriage, calling it a “real and dire anthropological throwback”.[8] In a letter to the monasteries of Buenos Aires, he wrote:

“Let’s not be naive, we’re not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God.”

He has also insisted that adoption by homosexuals is a form of discrimination against children. This position received a rebuke from Argentine president Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, who said the church’s tone was reminiscent of “medieval times and the Inquisition.”

Other functions of Cardinal Bergoglio

Member of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments

Member of the Congregation for the Clergy.

Member of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life

Member of the Pontifical Council for the Family

Ordination 13 December 1969
by Ramón José Castellano

Consecration 27 June 1992
by Antonio Quarracino

Created Cardinal 21 February 2001


52 posted on 03/13/2013 12:45:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Sarah Barracuda

It does seem that way. Not a bad thing, I agree.


53 posted on 03/13/2013 12:46:08 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Anytime God wanted someone to go announce his plans to all the world, most of the time He changes their names ...

Abram --> Abraham
Simon --> Peter
Saul --> Paul

etc....

BTW, my confirmation name is Peter,

54 posted on 03/13/2013 12:46:38 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe he will be as stubborn as a mule........

55 posted on 03/13/2013 12:46:55 PM PDT by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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Godspeed, Pope.


56 posted on 03/13/2013 12:47:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: fwdude

There is some negative aspects of the Jesuits as well.

Very much into undoing the reformation.


57 posted on 03/13/2013 12:47:50 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: FatherofFive

AMEN!! I PRAY he doesn’t bring the Catholic Church towards the Jesuits.....ULTRA LIBERALS at least in the US.


58 posted on 03/13/2013 12:48:01 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: SnakeDoctor; stanne

;-)


59 posted on 03/13/2013 12:48:19 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: skinndogNN

They pick SAINT’S names.


60 posted on 03/13/2013 12:48:35 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: wideawake

He might have different opinions here and there(Can’t get perfection) but as long as he is against gay marriage and abortion thats a step in the right direction


61 posted on 03/13/2013 12:49:07 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Well, yeah. He’s Catholic.


62 posted on 03/13/2013 12:49:19 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind
Oh my!

“...he entered the Society of Jesus on March 11, 1958...”

A Jesuit Pope! This could get real interesting!

63 posted on 03/13/2013 12:49:41 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: SeekAndFind

In a way this Pope is the best of both worlds, literally He is of Italian heritage, his parents were Italians living in Argentina. So have an Italian/Spanish thingy going on here. Both Italians and Latin Americans will be happy. Seems very humble and is pleasant on the eye, fatherly, like you want a Pope to be. I’m fairly pleased here. Was hoping for the Canadian but I think a wise choic was made after reading about this Pope’s background. Viva Il Papa!


64 posted on 03/13/2013 12:49:47 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

He’s 76. He turns 77 later this year.


65 posted on 03/13/2013 12:50:35 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: fwdude
Please explain the “Jesuits” thing. A liberal sect?

Nooooo. But I'll let others 'splain.

67 posted on 03/13/2013 12:51:52 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you for a most enlightening thread.


68 posted on 03/13/2013 12:52:17 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m surprised they chose someone who is 76 yrs old. I thought they might choose someone younger.


69 posted on 03/13/2013 12:52:45 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: SeekAndFind

Very orthodox, they are saying. He seemed charming as he spoke to the crowd, and humble as he bowed and asked the crowd to pray for him before he gave the blessing. Lots of smiles.


70 posted on 03/13/2013 12:52:55 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: libdestroyer; Admin Moderator

Not cool dude. Let them be right now for God’s sake.


71 posted on 03/13/2013 12:53:02 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: skinndogNN

They always take the name of a saint or some earlier Pope.


72 posted on 03/13/2013 12:53:26 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

First Argentinian and first Pope from the New World!!


73 posted on 03/13/2013 12:54:12 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: fwdude
The Jesuits are an academically rigorous order of priests - traditionally they have been missionaries, theologians and university professors.

A standard priest is ordained at 25 after receiving a masters in theology.

Jesuits are typically not ordained until they are 30 or older, and are encouraged to obtain a doctorate in both theology and a secular discipline.

During the 1960s and 1970s, their secular studies radicalized a large number of Jesuits and the order became known for its "progressivism" - the Superior General of the order from 1965-1983 was a liberation theologian who was openly disdainful of John Paul II. The current SG is not much better.

The last three SGs have effectively destroyed the order - their numbers are hollowed out.

74 posted on 03/13/2013 12:54:15 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: SeekAndFind

“..and a commitment to social justice.”

Generally means open to all things politically liberal to help the “oppressed”. I hope not.


75 posted on 03/13/2013 12:54:17 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Business owners work harder! You have to support millions.)
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To: skinndogNN

LOL

It is custom to translate the Pope’s name to the language of any particular country.

John Paul II was so named in English speaking countries.

In Hispanic countries he was Juan Pablo II.

In Italy he was Giovanni Paolo II.

Etc Etc Etc


76 posted on 03/13/2013 12:54:43 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Ann Archy

As soon as I heard Jesuit....I pictured 1000 nuns with their feet in the door.


77 posted on 03/13/2013 12:55:31 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: GVnana

Not an American. He is from Argentina.


78 posted on 03/13/2013 12:55:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: TomGuy
For those who want to see how he looks like ...




79 posted on 03/13/2013 12:55:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Rennes Templar

There’s nothing wrong with helping the oppressed.

It’s when Catholic hierarchy uses the gov’t to do the work.


80 posted on 03/13/2013 12:56:07 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

Virtual tour of the Sistine Chapel.
http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/sistinechapel.html


81 posted on 03/13/2013 12:56:11 PM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: nuconvert

CNN says he stepped down as Archbishop of Buenos Aires last year due to his age.


82 posted on 03/13/2013 12:56:17 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: Publius

My first thought was perhaps Francis of Assisi but you could very well be correct.


83 posted on 03/13/2013 12:56:58 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: SeekAndFind
Maybe wants to follow the example of Francis of Assisi...

YES, who loves animals!

84 posted on 03/13/2013 12:56:58 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: edcoil

“Nostradamus did not get it right.”

Second worst apocalyptic prediction ever. First the Maya and now Nostradamus. Its been a rough year for the end of the world.


85 posted on 03/13/2013 12:57:17 PM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Reaganez

RE: It is custom to translate the Pope’s name to the language of any particular country.

Well in Latin America, he’d be known as Papa Francisco.


86 posted on 03/13/2013 12:57:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SnakeDoctor

Not to put too fine a point on it, but, he turned 76 this past December. I agree. Is there any particular reason they keep electing to the office of Pope men who are on the downside of their lives???


87 posted on 03/13/2013 12:57:49 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad
Is there any particular reason they keep electing to the office of Pope men who are on the downside of their lives???

Probably the same reason we keep electing them to the Senate. :)

88 posted on 03/13/2013 12:59:25 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: SeekAndFind

That puts a new spin on the, “Is the Pope Catholic?” joke. I went to a Jesuit school, and they made it clear, they are not Catholic, they are Jesuit. And most didn’t believe in God.


89 posted on 03/13/2013 12:59:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: wideawake

And there’s no Church discipline, why?


90 posted on 03/13/2013 12:59:56 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
“...Please explain the “Jesuits” thing. A liberal sect?

I just know they tend to be more academic...”

Actually the Jesuits have been kicked out of more countries than you can shake a stick at.

They tend to also be explores and highly political missionaries. The order was founded by a soldier.

Sort of think Mohammad, but Christian. They were known in many circles as the Pope's soldiers and did his dirty work.

The Dominicans and the Jesuits were at the center of the Spanish Inquisition, with the Jesuits being pretty infamous for what they did.

They run and teach at many universities around the world. Some would say in an effort to influence the elite of those countries and shape their policies.

Again, this should be interesting.

91 posted on 03/13/2013 1:00:50 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Rennes Templar
“..and a commitment to social justice.”

Generally means open to all things politically liberal to help the “oppressed”. I hope not.


I don’t think there is a single Roman Catholic Cardinal that supports WASP Capitalism. For sure there will never be one elected Pope.

In terms of American Politics, the best we can hope for is an orthodox Catholic Pope that supports us on the “social issues”. John Paul II said he was against Godless Socialism and Godless Capitalism.

92 posted on 03/13/2013 1:01:13 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: utahagen

I believe you are mistaken, he just had his birthday 3/11/13.


93 posted on 03/13/2013 1:01:14 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: FatherofFive

I suspect under him they might, or else.

In 2005 a human rights lawyer sued him, alleging that as head of the Society in Argentina during the junta, he had cut loose two Jesuit priests who had promoted armed insurrection against the junta, against the position of the Society. The two priests were taken up by the authorities, but there was no mention of what happened to them.

The court dismissed the case for lack of evidence.


94 posted on 03/13/2013 1:01:43 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Sacajaweau

Just PRAY PRAY PRAY he isn’t THAT kind of Jesuit!!!


95 posted on 03/13/2013 1:01:55 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: fwdude

The Jesuits have a long and mixed history...

The society of Jesus orginated in Spain in the early 1500’s and were one of the driving forces behind the Inquisition, which is now regarded as a pretty dark chapter in the Catholic Church. Considering that Spain was still trying to recover from a 700 year long occupation by the Islamics, it is a little more easy to comprehend the search for and purging of “heretics”. Unfortunately, this also involved the Protetants in Central Europe in the 1500 and 1600’s. The Jesuits were a major political player in Spain and Italy during the 30 Years War and the Reformation.

They also were pretty fervent evangelists and spread the catholic faith throughout the colonies that Spain and Portugal were founding in the 1500’s. The evangelized in may other place, too (Africa, India, China). Their most positive influence was the emphasis on training priests and ministers (they started a lot of schools) and their devotion to personal piety and holiness.


96 posted on 03/13/2013 1:02:09 PM PDT by L,TOWM (No one in the US is free of the spirit of entitlement)
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To: SeekAndFind

His Father was Italian, can we assume his mother was also.

Doesn’t that make him an Italian Pope who was raised in Latin America?


97 posted on 03/13/2013 1:02:17 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: stanne

“He considers social outreach, rather than doctrinal battles, to be the essential business of the church.”

Helping the oppressed is fine. But as you say, not through gov’t. I have relatives who are catholic who justify their extreme liberal views by “social justice”. I’d like to know where he stands on socialists governments and their aiding the cause of social justice.


98 posted on 03/13/2013 1:02:26 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Business owners work harder! You have to support millions.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Well, actually, we keep electing these idiots to Congress because THEY drew the district lines in order to protect their office from contention.


99 posted on 03/13/2013 1:02:28 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad

Yes. When there is a clear lack of direction, the idea is to elect elderly chairwarmers and delay the final battle until the next conclave. The selection of Angelo Roncalli, aka John 23, is a textbook example of that.


100 posted on 03/13/2013 1:02:47 PM PDT by Publius
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