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EDITIORIAL: Did the NRA Make a Backdoor Deal to Support Universal Background Checks? (VIDEO)
Guns.Com ^ | Mar. 13, 2013 | S.H. Blannelberry

Posted on 03/13/2013 4:59:50 PM PDT by EXCH54FE

On Tuesday, NBC News alleged that the NRA would not fight a federal universal background check bill provided that the UBC bill omits language that calls for a national gun registry. Kaise Hunt, a political reporter for NBC News wrote:

Senators negotiating a bill mandating background checks for all gun buyers are privately expecting the National Rifle Association not to fight the measure — provided the legislation does not require private gun sellers to maintain records of the checks, NBC News has learned.

If that requirement is met and key Republican negotiator Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma signs on, the powerful gun lobby has signaled to lawmakers that they would not actively oppose the bill — and not count votes in favor of it as part of its highly influential NRA lawmaker ratings — according to Senate aides familiar with the stalled negotiations.

The story posted on NBCNews.com alleges that NRA will not oppose expanding the background check system to include all private firearm sales, “provided the legislation does not require private gun sellers to maintain records of the checks”.

This statement is completely untrue.

The NRA opposes criminalizing private firearms transfers between law-abiding individuals, and therefore opposes an expansion of the background check system.

The NRA supports meaningful efforts to address the problems of violent crime and mass violence in America, through swift and certain prosecution of violent criminals; securing our schools; and fixing our broken mental health system.

So, matter settled, right?

Perhaps. But, I believe the question isn’t whether the NRA would fight a UBC bill, because let’s face it, they’re the NRA, they’re going to publicly oppose anything that even vaguely resembles a gun control bill, the question is whether they would really care if it passed.

(Excerpt) Read more at guns.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; nra; oklahoma; secondamendment; tomcoburn
What are the direct consequences for those lawmakers who support and/or vote for a UBC bill that contains no mandate for a national registry?
1 posted on 03/13/2013 4:59:50 PM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

NRA bashers will be here momentarily, but I would remind them that this is NBC news, and NBC lies all the time.


2 posted on 03/13/2013 5:04:23 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

3 posted on 03/13/2013 5:11:00 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EXCH54FE
Here's the email I got today from the NRA-ILA:

An article appearing today on NBCNews.com is falsely reporting that NRA will not oppose legislation being negotiated in the U.S. Senate that would mandate background checks for all gun purchasers.

The story posted on NBCNews.com alleges that NRA will not oppose expanding the background check system to include all private firearm sales, "provided the legislation does not require private gun sellers to maintain records of the checks". This statement is completely untrue. The NRA opposes criminalizing private firearms transfers between law-abiding individuals, and therefore opposes an expansion of the background check system.

The NRA supports meaningful efforts to address the problems of violent crime and mass violence in America, through swift and certain prosecution of violent criminals; securing our schools; and fixing our broken mental health system.

A catagroical denial of the headline.

4 posted on 03/13/2013 5:15:11 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo
Yep,

Got the same one.

At times I do think GOA are a bit more Hard Core on the 2nd Amendment issue. Or does the GOA hold the NRA in line? Or does the NRA have the old “bit” between the teeth and ready to fight on this one?

5 posted on 03/13/2013 5:20:43 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416 "It’s one thing to make a law, It’s another to enforce it.")
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To: ozzymandus
NRA bashers will be here momentarily, but I would remind them that this is NBC news, and NBC lies all the time.

The NRA would never really sell out, would it?

South40
NRA Life Member

6 posted on 03/13/2013 5:24:29 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: ozzymandus

Completely false.
Twisted face Brian Williams may claim accuracy but this time, he’s caught...


7 posted on 03/13/2013 5:25:08 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: ozzymandus
print a bunch more dollars tonight and it'll go up tomorrow too...

Exactly. It's been the media pushing this story about the NRA's caving. They may even be right. But I'll wait till it happens to become outraged.

OUTRAGED, I tell you.

8 posted on 03/13/2013 5:34:43 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. -Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Olog-hai; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

See, the NRA is *even worse than Nixon*. Geez people, know your effin’ enemy. Partisan Media Shills ping. Thanks EXCH54FE.


9 posted on 03/13/2013 5:54:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: South40

Your link leads to a story plugging GOA, which raises money bashing the NRA. Sad to see people fall for this crap.


10 posted on 03/13/2013 6:03:01 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: EXCH54FE

Gun Owners of America
http://gunowners.org/

Second Amendment Foundation
http://www.saf.org/


11 posted on 03/13/2013 6:05:54 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: ozzymandus

I am well aware of the NRA’s selling out on many issues. Since you are apparently unaware, perhaps you should familiarize yourself with it so you know just who and what you are defending. Choose your own source.


12 posted on 03/13/2013 6:08:27 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: familyop

Yes they are and I am a member of the NRA and GOA. I do have the “Second Amendment Foundation” listed as one of my favorites.

Also “http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/";
Lots of good reading at the site


13 posted on 03/13/2013 6:12:59 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416 "It’s one thing to make a law, It’s another to enforce it.")
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To: EXCH54FE

Didn’t see anything from the NRA on SB197 in CO, BTW.


14 posted on 03/13/2013 6:13:21 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: South40

Hey South40, I do believe a bunch of these people weren’t around in late 70’s early 80’s.


15 posted on 03/13/2013 6:21:39 PM PDT by knife6375 (US Navy Veteran)
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To: knife6375

Yes, it would appear so.


16 posted on 03/13/2013 6:37:17 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: South40

No politicians live in fear of GOA. All they do is raise funds for themselves by bashing the NRA. Apparently it is you who is “unaware”.


17 posted on 03/13/2013 6:52:26 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

I was not promoting the GOA. I was pointing out how flawed the NRA is and how it has stabbed gun owners in the back. You’re free to continue your ignorance if you choose. I’m sure the NRA thanks you for it.


18 posted on 03/13/2013 7:30:21 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: South40

how coudl they NOT have sold out all along the way- we’ve goen fro ma coutnry where we coudl mail order from sears any gun we wanted to one where guns are absoloutely forbiddeen in soem states counties- Someione somewhere has been doiugn some selling out/compromising. ALL of this COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED A LONG TIME AGO by the NRA roganizing ALL their members to stand strong and send a VERY LOUD clear and unmistakeable message that we will NEVER surrender our second amendment rights, now ill we allow resolutions restricting our constitutional rights- But thats NOT what happened, and now were facign losing our rights all across this country

Hell- unions gather together in strength DEMANDING thsi that and the other thing, and our government cowtows to them every day and cowers to them all the time- yet GUN OWNERS can’t manage a strong enough coilition to let it be unmistakenly known that our secodn amendment rights are not to be touched? The tie4m has passed when gun iowners coudl have put out the flickr of restrictuions, and now we’re left running around filing one lawsuit after another- losing here, losing htere- compromising ALL ovber the place, trying to put out little patches of fire scattered all over the place-


19 posted on 03/13/2013 8:56:18 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: South40

Fine. I’ll support the 2nd Amendment and you can ignorantly attack the NRA and send money to GOA. You’re a dupe of the fundraisers.


20 posted on 03/13/2013 9:49:59 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: EXCH54FE

Even after this gets denied NBC will never declare it missrepresented NRA’s position and will continue to do so. The alphabet news soup has yet to be vigorously confronted until they do they’re going to continue and are getting bolder.


21 posted on 03/13/2013 10:54:41 PM PDT by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: EXCH54FE; All

The ability to “infringe” is greatly increased due to the volume of transfers that would have to be conducted by some sort of central government clearing house...

But that is almost beside the point...

This idea will not prevent one act of violence by anyone, anywhere in this country, but it will allow the government to access all sorts of data on YOU, and those YOU deal with PRIVATELY...

All in the name of what???

This baby step, in the wrong direction, is yet another example of how our right to keep and bear arms, as we see fit to do so, is constantly threatened, and for such a minor thing, it should be an easy thing for those that get a LOT OF MONEY from its membership should be screaming bloody murder about this...

Our right to keep and bear arms is NOT a political idea!!! One to be triffled with, or bartered for some political purpose...Because it may be hard, or difficult to fight for...

Criminals (and other determined individuals) will still not adhere to this provision, so why should law-abiding citizens??? Just because we are law-abiding does not mean this is a binding law, it has un-Constitutional written ALL OVER IT, and those that should know this are ignoring that fact!!!

I do not often dissagree with the NRA, but this is definitely one of those times...


22 posted on 03/14/2013 6:06:55 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: All

I should have added, “If this is true, or not...” to my previous post...


23 posted on 03/14/2013 6:08:38 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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