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2 Littleton men file proposed state ballot measure to undo ammunition magazine limits
TheDenverChannel ^ | 03/13/2013 | Lance Hernandez (thedenverchannel)

Posted on 03/13/2013 9:14:39 PM PDT by RandallFlagg

DENVER - Two Littleton men say Colorado lawmakers over-stepped their bounds when they approved a ban on high capacity gun magazines.

Now, Tim LeVier and J.T. Davis are trying to put the issue to a vote of the people.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedenverchannel.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; communism; communists; coup; guncontrol; nra; progressiveagenda; secondamendment
The reason I'm posting this is because one of the authors of this ballot seems to have posted a link to it in this news site's commentary sections:
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TimLeVier
Thank you all for your words of support. The proposal is available from the state of Colorado as public information, but I've posted it online myself to help spread the word. http://putittothepeople.blogspot.com

Additional comments and information will be available in a few weeks.
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Not sure if it's him, though.

Just thought I'd send a heads up to other Colorado FRiends.

1 posted on 03/13/2013 9:14:39 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: george76; TigersEye; Red Steel; All

PING!


2 posted on 03/13/2013 9:16:10 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg
Thanks for the ping. I'm not sure a 2nd Amendment protected natural right should rightly be put up for a referendum vote but it's one way to keep the issue alive and resist the Democrats. It shouldn't have been up for a vote by the legislature either.

If House Bill 1224 becomes law, anyone who currently possesses a magazine that holds more than 15 rounds is able to keep it, though if they transfer or sell the magazine, ...

In essence that means 15+ magazines will be around forever. No matter how many I accumulate in the future all of them will go through my time machine and come out grandfathered. If I transfer or sell them the buyer will put them through his time machine.

3 posted on 03/13/2013 9:26:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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Here’s a clickable link to the ballot:

http://putittothepeople.blogspot.com


4 posted on 03/13/2013 9:26:20 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: TigersEye
I'm not sure a 2nd Amendment protected natural right should rightly be put up for a referendum vote but it's one way to keep the issue alive and resist the Democrats.

Yeah, but we need to slap the hell out of those who would toss our rights away like they're doing. This is one front of many that we should do battle.
5 posted on 03/13/2013 9:28:48 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: TigersEye

I would have put up a vote for a law that anti-constitutional supporters either go to prison or N Korea, their choice.


6 posted on 03/13/2013 9:29:24 PM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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To: MtnClimber

By all right, they should.
A clear violation of their oaths of office.


7 posted on 03/13/2013 9:30:37 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg

I agree completely. Just stating my originalist view but I have no problem doing the same to them as they do to us.


8 posted on 03/13/2013 9:31:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: MtnClimber

A friend of mine suggested for the U.S. Congress that it should be the law that any congresscritter who proposes an un-Constitutional law should be immediately removed from congress, fined and possibly imprisoned. Just think, McCain would have been gone long before he ran in ‘08.


9 posted on 03/13/2013 9:33:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

Or...
Tattoo the word, “Traitor,” on their thick foreheads.


10 posted on 03/13/2013 9:44:13 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg

That works! Branding has always been a popular marking method in the west though.


11 posted on 03/13/2013 9:47:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

I REALLY like that idea!


12 posted on 03/13/2013 9:47:32 PM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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To: RandallFlagg

This was another case of writing liberal legislation, with no thought about implementation or enforcement.

Existing magazines would be grandfathered.
Magazines aren’t serial numbered.

It would only affect future sales.

80% of LEO’s wouldn’t investigate.
95% of DA’s wouldn’t bother trying to prosecute.

It does open the door for current owners to be harassed and having property confiscated, while they have to prove their innocence.


13 posted on 03/13/2013 9:50:17 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: MtnClimber
Another friend thinks all congresscritters should be regularly tested for drug and alcohol use and have mental fitness exams. I add to that that it should be a requirement to get on the ballot in the first place along with a stringent exam on Constitutional knowledge.

I guess I hang out with radicals.

14 posted on 03/13/2013 9:51:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: G Larry
Allow me some gentle corrections...

It would only affect future in-state sales.

80% of LEO’s wouldn’t investigate.
95% of DA’s wouldn’t bother trying to prosecute.

Because it would be useless to try to determine how long someone
owned a magazine and it would be perfectly legal to use them
as long as you claimed them to be grandfathered.

15 posted on 03/13/2013 9:56:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: RandallFlagg

My right to bear arms is not up to my neighbor to decide.

It isn’t up for discussion of any sort at all.


16 posted on 03/13/2013 10:02:13 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: TigersEye

YA THINK?

Resist the bastards on every available legal front.

They dont know it, but its for their benefit.


17 posted on 03/13/2013 10:13:13 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: One Name

OK. I don’t see the connection to my post.


18 posted on 03/13/2013 10:15:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: chris37
My right to bear arms is not up to my neighbor to decide.

It isn’t up for discussion of any sort at all.

Amen! I'd very much like to see the leftist extremists slapped back; I also fail to see how rights would still be rights if they can be voted up or down any time a bunch of communists come up with enough money and friends and publicity to cook up a fake burning issue. Even if the sheep succeed in outvoting the wolves on the issue of dinner, are we sure we believe that's a topic for endless discussion, debate, and revoting? Maybe instead of revoting, we need to revolt.

19 posted on 03/13/2013 11:18:10 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: RandallFlagg

http://putittothepeople.blogspot.com


20 posted on 03/13/2013 11:19:47 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: RandallFlagg

Whoops. I see you already made it clickable.


21 posted on 03/13/2013 11:20:16 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: TigersEye

It has nothing to do about gun control, and everything to do with writing laws so vague that they can be interpreted in any way that the enforcing regime desires, solely for their benefit.


22 posted on 03/14/2013 1:06:56 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: TigersEye

That was the point of addressing lack of serial numbers on magazines.

Will be interesting to see the timing of deliveries from Magpul’s “Boulder Airlift”, vs. the effectivity date, following the Guv’s signature.

For those who don’t know, Magpul instituted a special $5 shipping fee, for a limited # of Mag’s (up to 20), only for Colorado residents.


23 posted on 03/14/2013 4:30:27 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: TigersEye; RandallFlagg

See “Inglorious Basterds”.

Carve it on their foreheads.


24 posted on 03/14/2013 6:21:50 AM PDT by Peet (Notice: Due to the high price of ammo, there will be NO warning shots.)
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To: TigersEye

Yep, no identification numbers on magazines, so there’s no way to say they weren’t pre-ban.


25 posted on 03/14/2013 6:23:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
Yep, no identification numbers on magazines, so there’s no way to say they weren’t pre-ban.

Next Law Up: Serialize the mags...
26 posted on 03/14/2013 6:41:12 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -- Sigmund Freud)
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To: factoryrat

Who is John Galt?


27 posted on 03/14/2013 7:14:14 AM PDT by vortec94
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To: Peet

“You know how ya get to Carnagie Hall, don’t ya?

Practice.”


28 posted on 03/14/2013 7:30:49 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: TigersEye

“I’m not sure a 2nd Amendment protected natural right should rightly be put up for a referendum vote but it’s one way to keep the issue alive and resist the Democrats. It shouldn’t have been up for a vote by the legislature either.”

It may be right; it may be wrong.

But it looks to be the ONLY way you’re going to see the new Colorado gun grab laws overturned is by a vote of the ordinary citizens. I don’t expect future Colorado legislatures to do the job. Nor the courts.

After watching the way that “representative government” has gone in this country for the last 50 years, I almost wonder if we’d do better under somthing like the Swiss model — where the entire population votes on matters of governmental importance.

Brings to mind the famous quote by William F. Buckley:
“[I’d] rather be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston telephone directory than by the 2,000 members of the Harvard faculty.”

Same for the 535 members of Congress.

(Aside: my state [Connecticut] is on the verge of passing legislation more restrictive than Colorado’s — again, at the whim of an “elected legislature” that is overwhelmingly democratic and liberal. I’d rather have these laws put up for public voting, and be done with it….)


29 posted on 03/14/2013 11:01:36 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: factoryrat

OK


30 posted on 03/14/2013 1:04:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Road Glide
It may be right; it may be wrong. But it looks to be the ONLY way you’re going to see the new Colorado gun grab laws overturned is by a vote of the ordinary citizens.

Agreed.

31 posted on 03/14/2013 1:08:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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