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NM update: "Gun control [grabber] advocates are angry"
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | March 14, 2013 | Deborah Baker

Posted on 03/14/2013 8:33:56 AM PDT by CedarDave

With a requirement for background checks at gun shows bogged down in a Senate committee and the end of the legislative session looming, gun control advocates are steamed.

“I am extremely frustrated. I’m angry. I’m disappointed,” said Debbie Kuidis, a retired Albuquerque Police Department deputy chief who has been lobbying for House Bill 77. “What are they doing?”

The legislation sponsored by Rep. Miguel Garcia, D-Albuquerque, would require private sellers at gun shows to have background checks done on prospective buyers before they make a sale.

Garcia’s bill, which has had the support of Republican Gov. Susana Martinez, passed the House and one Senate committee and was sitting Wednesday on a clogged calendar in the Senate Judiciary Committee, where Chairman Richard Martinez, D-Espanola, hadn’t scheduled it to be heard.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
“I’m trying to see if I can fit it in somewhere,” Martinez told the Journal on Wednesday. “I haven’t forgotten it.”

It's not on today's lengthy committee agenda:

http://www.nmlegis.gov/lcs/agendas/revised/SJC.pdf

It's becoming increasingly likely that there will be no gun control legislation passed this session. The session ends at noon Saturday and this legislation has to first be heard in the Senate Judiciary Committee, then be passed in the full Senate, then go back to the full House for concurrence -- all within the next 48 hours! Not going to happen.

1 posted on 03/14/2013 8:33:56 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

“What are they doing?”

They are upholding our right to be a free American.


2 posted on 03/14/2013 8:36:43 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: CedarDave

“I am extremely frustrated. I’m angry. I’m disappointed,” said Debbie Kuidis, a retired Albuquerque Police Department deputy chief who has been lobbying for House Bill 77. “What are they doing?””

Calm down, lady.

They are probably finally coming to grips with the folly of this knee jerk distraction.


3 posted on 03/14/2013 8:36:58 AM PDT by mkboyce
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To: LegendHasIt; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; CougarGA7; ...

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4 posted on 03/14/2013 8:37:06 AM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio takes a drink of water while the media swallows Obama's Kool-Aid)
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To: CedarDave; Gilbo_3; NFHale

If the GOP can kill this in the Senate that will be a humiliating defeat to Obama+CO, and MSNBC too.

Maddow is on the ‘ban guns’ mission with the same enthusiasm she shows for ending DOMA. (somewhat ironically if you think about it)

Seeing that arrogant smile wiped off her smug face would be a joy.


5 posted on 03/14/2013 8:41:32 AM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: CedarDave

Interestingly enough, I just came back from Santa Fe and the place was “crawling” with State Police. DoubleTree parking lot was, at least, 25% SP-badged vehicles...lobbying on state expense accounting and using state equipment?

Being a Texan, I’m not looking into it...


6 posted on 03/14/2013 8:44:28 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: CedarDave

Add me to the ping list, please.


7 posted on 03/14/2013 8:45:03 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: CedarDave

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8 posted on 03/14/2013 8:46:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CedarDave

These background check bills seem to be sponsored by the “holier than thou” big dealer shops which do not like private sales or gifts. By crushing main street they are able to direct traffic to their government approved operations. They think they can stay in business by selling muskets.


9 posted on 03/14/2013 8:52:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Add me to the ping list, please.

Done!

(p.s. This new FR equipment is smokin' fast!)

10 posted on 03/14/2013 8:53:05 AM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio takes a drink of water while the media swallows Obama's Kool-Aid)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Training probably. The State Police headquarters is on Cerrillos Road.


11 posted on 03/14/2013 8:54:42 AM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio takes a drink of water while the media swallows Obama's Kool-Aid)
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To: sickoflibs
If the GOP can kill this in the Senate that will be a humiliating defeat to Obama+CO, and MSNBC too.

I sorely wish Republicans in Colorado had done as well.

12 posted on 03/14/2013 8:55:32 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: longtermmemmory
These background check bills seem to be sponsored by the “holier than thou” big dealer shops which do not like private sales or gifts.

They do realize that a thriving secondary market helps drive the primary market. Guns are, among other things, an investment. If the owner can't sell his investment, he's less likely to make the initial investment in the first place.

Also, people sometimes sell one firearm in order to fund buying another. That possibility goes away if there's no way to market the older one.

13 posted on 03/14/2013 9:00:03 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: Standing Wolf

yes commierado has certainly been destroyed by in influx of libtards.


14 posted on 03/14/2013 9:01:10 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”)
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To: CedarDave
“I am extremely frustrated. I’m angry. I’m disappointed,” said Debbie Kuidis...

Me too, Deb. AND, I'm armed!

15 posted on 03/14/2013 9:01:18 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: CedarDave

what constitutional authority does the govt have to impose any type of gun control whatsoever?


16 posted on 03/14/2013 9:13:17 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: CedarDave

Seems a bit “convenient” given the debate status at the capital.


17 posted on 03/14/2013 9:13:51 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: mkboyce
“I am extremely frustrated. I’m angry. I’m disappointed,” said Debbie Kuidis, a retired Albuquerque Police Department deputy chief who has been lobbying for House Bill 77. “What are they doing?”” Calm down, lady. They are probably finally coming to grips with the folly of this knee jerk distraction.

The SJC Chairman is from Espanola in northern NM where they like their guns and way of life. In some ways its like the old wild west but with Spanish the predominant language. The area can be violent, law enforcement scarce, drugs and domestic disputes common and Anglos that don't speak Spanish not welcome. Rio Arriba County is the site of the famous Tierra Amarilla Courthouse Raid. Up there many believe guns are the only thing protecting them from the government.

18 posted on 03/14/2013 9:17:34 AM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio takes a drink of water while the media swallows Obama's Kool-Aid)
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To: faithhopecharity

with so many private people working on home coil and rail guns for personal carry, there is no way to stop this.

gunpowder will go the way of the dodo bird. remember when the left panicked it would only be a matter of time before anyone could build a laser ray gun?


19 posted on 03/14/2013 9:18:14 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Seems a bit “convenient” given the debate status at the capital.

It's a relatively small issue at this point. The governor is going to veto the state budget just passed, legislators are scurrying making deals in the hopes that their pet bills which have survived the committee process get put on calendar for full passage in the House or Senate. These last 48 hours are madness with Saturday morning the worst - if one senator or representative is pissed, he can delay the whole process and legislation that seemed assured of passage dies at noon. And no second chance for two years (next years session is only 30 days and limited to fiscal matters).

20 posted on 03/14/2013 9:24:23 AM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio takes a drink of water while the media swallows Obama's Kool-Aid)
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To: CedarDave
The SJC Chairman is from Espanola in northern NM where they like their guns and way of life. In some ways its like the old wild west but with Spanish the predominant language. The area can be violent, law enforcement scarce, drugs and domestic disputes common and Anglos that don't speak Spanish not welcome. Rio Arriba County is the site of the famous Tierra Amarilla Courthouse Raid. Up there many believe guns are the only thing protecting them from the government.

Anglos should avoid buying property in northern NM for the same reasons - you run into some strange dynamics, especially with families that have "Land Grants" from the Spanish Crown that go back 400 years.

21 posted on 03/14/2013 9:27:26 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator; Tijeras_Slim

Yes, even the ABQ area, some land grant descendants have put up signs saying the land is not for sale. Buyers have to be aware of more than the fine print in the bill of sale.


22 posted on 03/14/2013 9:37:37 AM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio takes a drink of water while the media swallows Obama's Kool-Aid)
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To: Disambiguator; CedarDave

About 8 miles south of Slim's place.

Agree about Northern NM, my nephew from Long Beach Ca., got a job with the NM State Police and they assigned him to Questa. He was all excited thinking the whole place was like Taos.... Got a rude awakening.

23 posted on 03/14/2013 9:51:50 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: CedarDave

The 2ndA impact is secondary to me in NM. I am responsible for environmental issues respective of the SE corner of NM. I’ll follow along on other things regarding your PL. When ENV issues are included in your ping, I’ll be a “honey badger” hunting for good conservative POVs.

Thanks


24 posted on 03/14/2013 9:55:13 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: CedarDave
Debbie Kuidis, a retired Albuquerque Police Department deputy chief who has been lobbying for House Bill 77: “I am extremely frustrated. I’m angry."

They need to refer Debbie to mental health counseling and then confiscate her weapons.

25 posted on 03/14/2013 9:59:19 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; CedarDave

I saw a lot of “Not For Sale” signs when we went down to camp in the southern Manzanos back in 2005.

Must be all those Californians with lots of RE cash pestering them. :^)


26 posted on 03/14/2013 10:02:11 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: CedarDave

““I am extremely frustrated. I’m angry. I’m disappointed,” said Debbie Kuidis, a retired Albuquerque Police Department deputy chief who has been lobbying for House Bill 77. “What are they doing?””

A retired PIG sequels.


27 posted on 03/14/2013 10:08:10 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Standing Wolf; NFHale; Gilbo_3; Impy
GOP should propose their own 'gun safety' bill that increases penalties for those who commit crimes with guns, mandatory prison.

Oh, and take away their vote after they are released from jail, that would sting the Dems.

And funding for gun safety courses in public schools to teach kids safe handling of them.

Call it the 'National Gun Safety to protect our kids and Gabby' bill.

I should do this for a living :)

28 posted on 03/14/2013 10:08:27 AM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: Disambiguator

Californians all want to be in Sante Fe. A guy I know moved onto Chilili land and one night his house got shot at. He emptied a 30 round magazine out of three different windows in his house and has been left alone ever since.


29 posted on 03/14/2013 10:13:01 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: CedarDave

I’m not familiar with NM, but I know a guy from New Mexico who moved up here. I think his family was one of the old-timers. He’s normally a laid back guy, but he has a special dislike for Californians.


30 posted on 03/14/2013 10:25:14 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: sickoflibs; Standing Wolf; NFHale; Gilbo_3; Impy

” Call it the ‘National Gun Safety to protect our kids and Gabby’ bill.”

Perfect!!


31 posted on 03/14/2013 10:26:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
I am responsible for environmental issues respective of the SE corner of NM.

Here's a couple of things for you to chew on - anti-fracking bills submitted in the NM legislature:

Senate Bill 547 - BAN HORIZONTAL OIL & GAS FRACTURING
House Bill 136 - DISCLOSURE OF FRACTURING FLUID COMPOSITION
House Bill 335 - WATER RESOURCE TESTING & DAMAGE REMEDIES

(use this link to easily search bill content, info and progress)

These bills were submitted by legislators who have swallowed the enviro-radical Kool-aid that the sky is falling if we produce more fossil fuel energy. The state senate bill has as sponsor a school teacher from Las Cruces who was just elected last fall. He's just following the party line. The house bills are from a Santa Fe enviro-radical who believes everyone should take public transportation or ride a bicycle and live using solar energy for heat and windmills for electricity (Santa Fe is pretty much a fantasy world anyway).

All of these bills went down in flames and never made it out the committees they were assigned to. One reason is the fiscal impact reports (FIR) produced by the state agencies impacted by the legislation. They detail how much it would cost the state in either revenue or additional employees to implement the legislation. FIRs also give clues to the legislators as to agency thinking (agencies can't directly lobby for or against legislation - only the agency director can testify and answer questions from committee members). One FIR says in part the following:

ENMRD projects that impact from the bill [in] New Mexico on oil and gas development could be staggering. HB 335 would apply to all new wells in New Mexico that use hydraulic fracturing. A very high percentage of new wells incorporate the hydraulic fracturing process; last year, over 1600 new wells were completed. New wells are usually drilled at a depth between 5,000 and 15,000 feet, with many producing at 9,000 to 13,000 feetet. Many of the new wells also extend horizontally for thousands of feet. These wells often cost several million dollars to complete.

As I said, all never got beyond the starting gate but like the gun control legislation, lib/left radicals never give up and will be back again for another bite of the apple.

32 posted on 03/14/2013 10:41:45 AM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio takes a drink of water while the media swallows Obama's Kool-Aid)
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To: CedarDave

:: fossil fuel energy ::

Dave, just FYI.

That “fossil fuel” terminology is a 60s-liberal (AKA: Hippies) leftover that keeps showing up from the left. Beware when it is used.

The “super” majority of the O&G industry have since rejected the idea that we are producing the remains of pre-historical “carbon-based life”.

Rather we are near unanimous in regarding O&G as a natural product of a dynamic Earth.

That said, thanks for the links. As they appear on your ping-list, I’ll devour the comments.


33 posted on 03/14/2013 10:49:16 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: CedarDave

So much for the political fortunes of Martinez.


34 posted on 03/14/2013 10:50:25 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: CedarDave

Senate Bill 547-Ban Horizontal Oil & Gas Fracturing. Are you sure this senator is from Cruces? Sounds like he is from Saudi Arabia.

Thanks for your updates, CedarDave. I grew up in SE NM before migrating to Texas.


35 posted on 03/14/2013 11:26:29 AM PDT by texasmountainman (We might as well just give up & run, if we let them take our God & guns.)
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To: texasmountainman
Are you sure this senator is from Cruces?

Scary that he's swallowed the enviro line so completely. More scary that he's educating young folks to believe it too.

Senator William P. Soules - (D)

36 posted on 03/14/2013 11:39:58 AM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio takes a drink of water while the media swallows Obama's Kool-Aid)
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To: mkboyce

Kuidis has been non-stop on radio supporting this, she had family murdered and the murderer used a firearm. I understand her being emotional on the issue, but wish she would realize if someone wants to murder another person they don’t need a firearm. I also wish she would understand if her sister (I think it was her sister) had been armed and could have defended herself she would be alive today.


37 posted on 03/14/2013 11:48:52 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Why do they need signs? If they don’t want to sell then don’t.


38 posted on 03/14/2013 1:18:00 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CedarDave

If got a few ideas regarding where you could fit it, Governor.


39 posted on 03/14/2013 1:19:33 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Travis McGee

If you did these photomemes, they are outstanding.


40 posted on 03/14/2013 1:21:39 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: CodeToad

Without a treatise on Land Grant families in NM, some would like to sell, many don’t. It’s a bit of a overt threat to those who might want to sell, as well as to those who would buy.


41 posted on 03/14/2013 1:22:26 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; Standing Wolf; Gilbo_3; Impy

“...gun control advocates are steamed....”

Waahhh. F*** ‘em.

Molon Labe.


42 posted on 03/14/2013 2:49:25 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

” “...gun control advocates are steamed....”

Waahhh. F*** ‘em.

Molon Labe.”

Exactly.


43 posted on 03/15/2013 11:18:00 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Travis McGee

Bitter clingers? Uh-oh.


44 posted on 03/15/2013 8:11:15 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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