Skip to comments.What Japanese history lessons leave out
Posted on 03/14/2013 3:16:42 PM PDT by the scotsman
'Japanese people often fail to understand why neighbouring countries harbour a grudge over events that happened in the 1930s and 40s.
The reason, in many cases, is that they barely learned any 20th Century history.'
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
A lot of it is pretty horrific.
Or that even though invited T. Roosevelt’s Great White Fleet did not sail all their ships into Tokyo Bay because of the Japanese reputation for sneak attacks and undeclared war such as the raid on Port Arthur?
Or that from 1905 and Russo-Japanese War that nobody considered them trustworthy and many U.S. Military planners including King and Halsey were not the least bit surprised by Pearl Harbor?
One thing which interested me is that during WWI, the Japanese were on the Allied side against Germany. The German prisoners they captured were treated so well that many of them stayed in Japan after the war.
20 years later they turned into mainly monsters.
The Koreans hate em. The Japanese took young Korean ladies and forced them to be camp prostitutes. If the girls got a disease or pregnant they would put a rifle inside them and shoot.
I spoke with an old man who had been on a japanese work crew. The supervisor died from a lead infection (shot) and then replacement refused the job and died the same way. So when they asked this guy if he wanted the job he took it.
I had a Japanese friend who was here in America in 1986 for a year. He said that no one in Japan really talks about WWII and what they did (Pearl Harbor, prison camps, brutality, etc.) to the enemy.
There are no AMVETS or VFW clubs in Japan . . . their veterans are shamed . . . they don’t want to talk about the war because of the devastation that they created and the fact that they lost so unceremoniously.
I took him to our USS Cod, docked in Cleveland’s downtown Naval port. When I pointed out the numerous Japanese flags pasted on the side of the submarine, he was very quiet.
Here in Seattle the Japanese have big celebrations on Pearl Harbor Day
Pretty much the same education as an American liberal.
The islamonazi’s of their time....
Nice article but it barely scratches the surface. They need to talk about all of the horrors that regime inflicted: the atrocities against the Filipinos, the Chomorros, the Vietnamese, the Okinawans and of course, all of its prisoners. A major crime the Japanese should address was the one done against itself - what people can survive when they blindly sacrifice a huge portion of their young men to suicidal tactics? Besides the moral aspects, think of the genetic loss for all time. It’s a sort of self-genocide.
For many Japanese, World War Two began on August 6, 1945.
Before that, Japan was engaged in a Pacific-wide armed struggle to liberate their fellow Asians from British & American imperialism, and to bring to their fellow Asians all the benefits of incorporation into the “Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere”. For this, the Chinese, Koreans, Philippinos and Vietnamese have been most ungracious in their lack of gratitude for the sacrifices made by the brave soldiers of the Empire of Japan.
The reason why: the Japanese do not teach anything about the history of the run-up to WW2 and the Pacific War in their schools. Older Japanese that lived through the war do not speak of it. It is like a 20-year national collective amnesia that afflicts the country.
When Clint Eastwood filmed “Letters from Iwo Jima”, he used actors from Japan. In order to portray Imperial Army soldiers accurately, the actors had to learn history they were not taught. They were dumbfounded to learn what Japan had done. They were very sobered by it and many realized that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the only way to end the slaughter.
I know that the Japanese are very smart and hardworking. But there is a hubris at the core of their being that says that they are superior to everyone else on the planet. I do not blame them for this. It is a Shakespearean tragic flaw in their character.
My understanding is they teach their children that nothing unusual happened December 7, 1941. I’ve seen young people from Japan who could tell you the exact time “Little Boy” went off and the names of the Enola Gay’s crew, but knew nothing about that date. And we were a half-hour drive from Pearl Harbor at the time.
Chinese and North Korean atrocities have been more recent.
Most asian cultures are the same.
Here are some Japanese atrocities that not everyone might be familiar with, some only revealed fairly recently.
They whine in California about the internment camps, but leave out the German and Italian internment camps, those pesky POW camps, the Rape of Nanking as well as Kamikake pilots.
Libs love only the parts that are anti-white, Christian or American.
The Japanese have been one of the most racist races on the planet.
Yes, the Koreans hate them and the Japanese thought the Koreans and Chinese less than human and treated them that way.
The Japanese “scholar” who tries to deny the atrocities committed by the Japanese in Nanking as “Chinese propaganda” has to ignore the hundreds of reports, photos, and even movies recorded and published by western missionaries and diplomats.
Thanks the scotsman. And postwar German schoolbooks’ coverage of The Holocaust used to consist of, “anti-Jewish measures were intensified”.
The extent of the Japanese defeat at Midway wasn’t made public until the mid-1950s.
Yes, you're right... Maybe we've made a deal to let North Korea take out Japan... and this is psyops... or maybe it's just an interesting thread at an unusual time. Wednesday... right?
Everybody in Asia hates Japan as an entity, though they may have good business or personal relationships with Japanese companies or individuals. If a China-Japan war ever breaks out it doesn't matter what treaties these countries have with the USA - every one of them is going to support China.
My wife's grandmother survived the occupation of Singapore - to this day she hates everything Japanese...except sushi. :)
From your link - one of my thoughts was ‘girls as young as 13...” - by today’s standards we’d be lucky if our lowlifes only raped girls as young as 13... Thanks for sharing the link...
(December 1937) Known historically as the ‘Rape of Nanking’. In 1937 (the real start of WW11) the Chinese capital had a population of just over one million. On December 13th. the city fell to the invading Japanese troops. For the next six weeks the soldiers indulged in an orgy of indiscriminate killing and rape. They shot at everyone on sight, whether out on the streets or peeking out of windows. The streets were soon littered with corpses, on one street a survivor counted 500 bodies. Girls as young as thirteen, and women of all ages were raped by gangs of 15 or 20 soldiers who roamed the town in search of women. Over a thousand men were rounded up and marched to the banks of the Yangtze river where they were machine-gunned to death. In the following six weeks, the Nanking Red Cross units, buried around 43,000 bodies. About 20,000 women and girls had been raped, many were murdered. Department stores, shops, churches and houses were set on fire while drunken soldiers indulged in wholesale looting and bayoneting of Chinese civilians for sport. In charge of the troops during this time was General Iwane Matsui. At the Tokyo War Crimes Trial, Matsui was found guilty of a war crime unrelated to Nanking and sentenced to death. He was hanged in 1948.
I lived in Manila, makati to be precise in the late 60’s. My office was on the top floor of the Sarmiento Building on Ayala ave.
Lower down, Mitsubishi Corp had offices. The boss was an th executive in charge of administering the reparations provided via Mitsubishi
When he got on the elevator, the peope next to the awll literally got crushed as they insured no one had to touch him and recoiled backwards. most would not follow him onto the elevator.
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