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The Centennial of the worst Amendment adopted, 16th Amendment enacted March 15, 1913
Our Documents.Gov ^ | March 15, 2013 | Steelers6

Posted on 03/14/2013 11:18:52 PM PDT by Steelers6

Caesar wasn't the only one stabbed in the back on the Ides of March!!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 16th; amendment; centennial; signed
Noting History
1 posted on 03/14/2013 11:18:52 PM PDT by Steelers6
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To: Steelers6

Quickly followed by the “Revenue Act” and the worst one of all - the Federal Reserve Act.

The FED is a key pillar of progressivism. It changed the monetary system of the USA in a huge way, and without the FED today, the US Gov’t could not operate the huge, nanny-state it does.

Eliminate the FED, and you eliminate 1000 things conservatives oppose, from Planned Parenthood to PBS.


2 posted on 03/14/2013 11:37:58 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Steelers6

Worse is the 10th Amendment! Actually the open conclusions that have been determined by the Supreme Courts. More harm has been cause here than any other amendment! You’d expect that it allows anything that the Federal Government wants when you look at the Supreme Court decisions on this.

Of course the effect is that the Federal Government can do anything it wants to. Hell with States rights!


3 posted on 03/14/2013 11:59:01 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Steelers6

The 16th Amendment is the wet dream of every Free Trader Commie Globalist......when the US went from a nation that collected revenue by tariffs on foreign goods to a nation that taxes its citizens income with a progressive income tax.

The two biggest advocates of the Income Tax are Free Traders and Communists


4 posted on 03/15/2013 1:13:51 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Steelers6

I think the 17th was the worst. It defeated the whole purpose of having a bicameral legislature, and made our Congress the source of the “Bread and Circuses” demands of the citizenry.


5 posted on 03/15/2013 1:31:53 AM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: wolfpat
Consider the warning of James Madison. The following is his response on June 6th 1788 to Patrick Henry’s charge that the Constitution’s enumerated powers and our freedoms would be usurped .

“If the general government were wholly independent of the governments of the particular states, then, indeed, usurpation might be expected to the fullest extent. But, sir, on whom does this general government depend? It derives its authority from these governments, and from the same sources from which their authority is derived.”

The 17th removed State agency from the federal republic. As predicted by Montesquieu, Locke, Federalists and Anti-Federalists, we slipped into a consolidated government that rules by force and not the consent of the governed.

6 posted on 03/15/2013 2:40:16 AM PDT by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: wolfpat
"I think the 17th was the worst."

I agree. I don't think Dingey Harry would still be in.
He has done a lot of damage to our country. . . . .

7 posted on 03/15/2013 3:17:12 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I owe my life to ZERO. I am taking good care of myself so I can see the SOB marched off to JAIL)
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To: Steelers6

The one that gave chicks the vote is the worst one.

Just kidding ladies, ;).


8 posted on 03/15/2013 3:26:01 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: DeaconRed; wolfpat; BillyBoy

Guess what, the Nevada legislature is democrat. You bet your behind Reid would be there. And another commie prick in the other seat instead of a Republican.

There sure as hell would be less conservative Republicans and more establishment tools chosen by their fellow politicians. Reduce the electorate for Senators to politicians only, great idea.


9 posted on 03/15/2013 3:33:30 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: wolfpat
I think the 17th was the worst. It defeated the whole purpose of having a bicameral legislature, and made our Congress the source of the “Bread and Circuses” demands of the citizenry.

Absolutely! Repeal of the 17th is the first/best step to getting our country back.
10 posted on 03/15/2013 3:46:53 AM PDT by Deek
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To: PGR88

The 16th amendment has never been enacted into positive law.

check for yourself


11 posted on 03/15/2013 4:00:34 AM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: Steelers6
The income tax was originally sold as a "tax on the rich".

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

12 posted on 03/15/2013 4:29:21 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: wolfpat

I agree. the 17th has been the biggest disaster. We started electing senators by popular vote so they’re elected by the biggest city in a state. Now they go to Washington and completely ignore the will of the people.


13 posted on 03/15/2013 4:53:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Impy
"The one that gave chicks the vote is the worst one."

My very bright and lovely lady agrees with this. The first time she told me, I about fell over.

14 posted on 03/15/2013 5:05:22 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: phockthis

What was the Revenue Act of 1913 then?


15 posted on 03/15/2013 8:18:25 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Impy
Is this another thread where they blame the enactment of the 17th amendment for the creation of the 16th amendment?

It's all clear to me now... the 17th amendment was passed in May 1913 and the new Senators popularly elected in 1914 used in a time machine to go back in time to 1912, and then FORCED their wonderful state legislature appointed counterparts to enact an income tax. (after all, Senators appointed by politicians are statesmen who believed in STATES RIGHTS and would NEVER pass a statist federal law like the 16th amendment) Those weaselly progressives!

There's just no end to the evils caused by the 17th. I hear there's now good evidence it's directly responsible for the Black Death of the 1300's.

16 posted on 03/15/2013 9:04:36 AM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Steelers6
Not to nitpick, but my pocket copy of the Constitution indicates the 16th amendment was ratified on February 3,1913.

Agree though, 1913 was a really bad year with the ratification of both the 16th and 17th.

17 posted on 03/15/2013 9:10:58 AM PDT by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment!)
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To: Deagle

Don’t you mean the 17th Amendment?


18 posted on 03/15/2013 7:23:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Impy
The original intent of the founders was for the Senate to represent the states, that is why each state has 2 senators no matter how big or small they are. The house represents the people.
Now they both represent themselves and nobody else.
NO there is no perfect plan because man is imperfect.
I do believe that letting the state legislatures pick them would work best even if the corrupt state of Nevada gets to keep Dingy. . . . . . .
19 posted on 03/16/2013 6:18:52 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I owe my life to ZERO. I am taking good care of myself so I can see the SOB marched off to JAIL)
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To: DeaconRed

The Senate still serves it’s purpose by giving equal suffrage to states irregardless of their population. The people of the states are “the states” as far as I’m concerned. To hell with state GOVERNMENTS. The people elect the state governments but need their betters in elective office to choose the Senators? Cause as retarded as the average person is a politician would choose better? That’s rich.

The State governments are not better or more noble than the federal government. Governments at all levels suck.
An electorate of only politicians would be horrendous. You have to look at reality, not an idealized fantasy world that can’t exist. What would you say is the most conservative state? Probably Utah, were the GOP legislature would have been certain to reelect RINO Senator Bob Bennett while the people chose conservative Mike Lee. How about Texas where the people just elected conservative Ted Cruz? Almost every Republican in the legislature endorsed RINO David Dewhurst. It would lead to worse and less accountable Senators from both parties, in almost every state, period.

How wonderful the founders intended the constitution to be changed when needed.


20 posted on 03/16/2013 6:40:28 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
Is this another thread where they blame the enactment of the 17th amendment for the creation of the 16th amendment?

No, but some people chimed in that they think the 17th is worse than the income tax. And giving DC electors and prohibition and any other amendment you may not agree with. Actually by the way they talk they seem to think it's the worst thing in the history of forever, which is pretty twisted if you ask me.

21 posted on 03/16/2013 6:46:02 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No, the 10th is far worse!


22 posted on 03/17/2013 6:14:13 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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