Skip to comments.G.O.P.ís Portman, Saying Son Is Gay, Now Backs Same-Sex Marriage
Posted on 03/15/2013 3:16:40 AM PDT by OKRA2012
Senator Rob Portman, the Ohio Republican, has switched his stand on same-sex marriage, saying he now supports it after his son told him he is gay.
Mr. Portman, who had been considered one of the leading candidates to be Mitt Romneys running mate in 2012, told Ohio newspapers that his son Will told him and his wife, Jane, in 2011 of his sexual orientation.
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If I had a son who wanted to marry another man, a toaster, or a favorite novel, that wouldn’t make me willing to pretend that any of those pairings is a real marriage.
Why do these politicians think that they can change a moral fundamental just because one of their relatives has fallen to that sin? As Hillary might say, “What difference does it make?” Is marriage an agreement between a man and a woman, or not? Some would say: a man, a woman, and God. It has always been defined as such, and what Sen. Portman’s son does doesn’t change it.
My brother was gay (died of likely AIDS). My ex’s son is gay. We had very good gay friends. Our individual relations and associations do not redefine the institution of marriage.
That is so intellectually lazy. The only reason for gays to ‘get married’ is to have society accept their sexual acts as equivalent to natural copulation. They are not.
Marriage, ordained by God, is a sacred commitment to having children (naturally - not by petri dish/egg & sperm donation) to raise in love and spirituality.
Sadly, in this modern age, too many heterosexual couples have abandoned the sanctity of marriage. Since homosexuality is a sin in all religions - how can anyone find a rationale for gay marriage? Society’s acceptance is the only answer.
The human race is heading into extinction.
Unicorns are gay. Teddy bears and pink ponies are gay. Homosexuals are not gay. They are miserable, self loathing sexual perverts and a tiny fraction of the total population; a fringe group provided extra - ordinary power and protected class status by secular humanists on the left to drive a wedge against traditional Christian family values...and now the GOP wants to embrace that. To hell with them.
Very well said!
...”Marriage, ordained by God, is a sacred commitment to having children (naturally - not by petri dish/egg & sperm donation) to raise in love and spirituality”...
And, if law and order ever breaks down, political correctness will go and Mother Nature will reassert herself.
If our society could be likened to a computer hard drive, I think it is about full and the memory is overtaxed..A crash is coming.
Which means that Portman is going to support law that forces others to service and support his son’s homosexuality.
Leftists are very good at relabeling/rebranding via political correctness (aka fascism).
Communist -> Progressive -> Liberal -> Progressive
Homosexual -> Gay
NAZI (Natl Socialist Workers Party) -> Rightwing
Leftism was responsible for > 200 MILLION deaths in the 20th century = pure evil.
I think I am pretty much sick of hearing about gays. Is there such a thing as Gay Fatigue Syndrome (GFS)?
It’s all day now, 24/7 ...
GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY.
Obama loves gays, the GOP loves gays, everybody loves gays!
GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY.
The military loves gays, the gays love gays, everybody loves gays.
GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY.
Gay all day, Gay All night, Gays on the left, and gays on the right.
GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY! Horray!
And probably because he has a friend that hires a latino worker, he will now vote for the dream act amnesty bill.
I give up!
The republican party as we once knew it is dead.
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled G.O.P.s Portman, Saying Son Is Gay, Now Backs Same-Sex Marriage , TADSLOS wrote:
“Unicorns are gay. Teddy bears and pink ponies are gay. Homosexuals are not gay. They are miserable, self loathing sexual perverts and a tiny fraction of the total population”
No they’re not, they’re 10% of the population I read it in the New York Times....(I trust you understand I am being sarcastic)...But Portman’s turn around is one reason why as I’m paying attention as to who is saying what at the CPAC and why they’re not doing this..
When the democrats decided to remove God or any reference to Our Creator at their 2012 convention. They also demonstrated they are no longer the democratic party of your fathers father. They have become a hyphenated radical unit and should be known as Demo-Coms dedicated to the establishment of a collective idealism using the device of PCP to modify behavior and shed beliefs that they believe would impede remaking their concept of the perfect utopian state. That is hardly democratic because the word democrat idealizes the individual voice.
But Rove, GOPES (GOP Elite Snobs) and RINOS lack the capacity or the understanding or the courage to point to the historic radicalization that occured at that moment and use it politically. Worse yet they are unable to forthrightly defend what the demo-coms have set out to destroy and some are even comming up with their own version of PCP . Anyone preaching PCP is going down the poisonous road to oblivion . Following a policy of PCP. Politically Correct Politics which the hyphenated democrat party, the Demo-Coms,is using is flat out wrong.Worse yet moral questions such as marriage, sexual practices, family constituency and particularly beliefs those of containing Judeo Christian tenets are being assulted and not defended. That offers a majority of voters no choice in the direction this country is to take.
PCP when used by the Demo-Coms such terms as: Afro-American, Hispanic-American, Asian-American, White-American, Rich-American ,Gay-American, are more than simply nouns but vehicles used to separate US from each other. Beside separating US from our money the Demo-Coms demand we become adhearents to a system without the constituional constraints on government. Thus surrendering our protections from governmental abuses and excessive bureacracy to the will of a bureaucratic collective which is no longer answerable to the average citizen.
Sadly for the Republicans and it seems conservatives God remains in Limbo
This turnaround by a politician demonstrates how "fluid" our politicians are. They just hold their finger to the wind and adjust their positions to which way the wind is blowing today.
How many genuine Statesmen do we have in office, two? three? more? fewer?
I’m sorry, and I agree; Jesus didn’t define morality by individuals’ circumstances, but by His Father’s law.
“And, if law and order ever breaks down, political correctness will go and Mother Nature will reassert herself.”
I thought Mother Nature had asserted itself with the gay population; they have shorter lives, can’t breed, and a whole host of medical and mental issues that make it clear that it is a mental illness. Just because the government pretends that this isn’t the case doesn’t make it so.
There have ALWAYS been gays. Always will be I suppose
But it is an abberation and should be treated as such. The deal, in most major population centers was. “You don’t stick it in our faces and we leave you alone to do what you do in PRIVATE”
The closet was a good thing.
If Portman’s son was a thief, would he favor the legalization of theft?
This is all a pretext to eventually legalizing sex with children. That’s what this is all about. Incremental-ism.
What's the difference?
Who is it hurting?
When you get right down to it, this is why so many people accept faggots. They have a relative or friend who is one.
They aren’t bad people, they are just sick.
Now they want their sickness to spread like any other disease. It is a sickness of the mind, but it should not change marriage.
So will he support decriminalizing murder if his son kills someone?
"Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God," wrote Cardinal Bergoglio in a letter sent to the monasteries of Buenos Aires. "We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God." ... Pope Francis
Flavious, that's what my husband always says is the long-term goal. The other thing he always says is that at some point, it will be a high school graduation requirement to perform some type of homosexual sex.
Very simple....God’s way or man’s way.
I hate politicians whose positions change depending on how it affects them.
I’ve read reports that NAMBLA is pushing this w/APA - the psycho group that “normalized” homosexuality by removing the “mental disorder” association.
(Looks like you signed up a little before me and got BRK...I had to take BRL)
Indeed, you are correct!
> No theyre not, theyre 10% of the population I read it in the New York Times....(I trust you understand I am being sarcastic).
And they keep hoping to raise their numbers by indoctrinating (converting) them in school and on Boi Scout camping trips
Woola my son’s gay so now I back gay marriage.How dumb is that.I haven’t met one gay couple who wants to get married so why push it.Is it for the benefits .Then name it something else.Marriage is a sacrament before God.I just don’t get it.
Let God be true and every man a liar.
bail on the whole country because your son wants a special benefit?
Nice work, Portman...
What I said on an earlier thread:
The notion that we must endorse the sin of someone we love is a reversal of all morality.
Rob Portman, and indeed most of Western civilization, will continue to decline—rapidly—if the population doesn’t get this concept correct.
We can love our children, but not their behavior.
What if I were an alcoholic, or what if I were inclined to abuse someone who angers me? I was “born” that way, you know. I can’t help myself, it is just the way I am!
Well, Mr. Portman (and the rest of the West!), you are just going to have to accept me. More than that, you’re going to have to pass laws that ENDORSE my actions!
There is such a thing as “right” and “wrong”.
We are calling good “evil” and evil “good”, something the sages from Moses to Jesus to Paul to Aquinas to Calvin and Luther warned against. And we do this to our detriment.
Seems to me a parent can love a child without supporting their bad choices.
This reversal by Portman seems politically motivated to avoid tough questions from the media that Portman does not have the moral fiber to answer. Now, he is amoral - there is no right or wrong.
“For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” - 2 Timothy 3:2-5
Once again, God gets it right, Senator Portman.
(Robot voice) ... Enter Delta Quattro Sigma....... RINOIZATION COMPLETED. BEEP BEEP BEEP
So Romney had another Democrat on his short list, and a gay to boot. Think he was looking for easier hookups or something?
Men on Men is particularly offensive and downright dangerous and risky.
Its like seeing how many cheap hookers you can find for unprotected action.
That sounds like something Sen Portman would have said 5 yrs ago...
A "gay" caller asked him "what if your son was gay? What would you do?". Of course this question is the classic one designed to make you tongue-tied, if not shut you up completely.
Reggie answered "I would still love my son, but have him seek help and guidance" or words to that effect.
The most simple of answers, yet I have seldom hear anyone, at least in the public eye, respond this simply and cogently. Instead, you get responses like Portman ("you're right, now I must change my views"), or the person actually does become flummoxed and not know how to answer such a simple question.
ok second thread,
Portman knew for years.
Romney’s vp selection committee knew.
Portman is compromised and was blackmail”able”
Portman should have kicked out his son.
Portman is trying to oppose preemptivly a constitutional amendment.
Portman is playing the “chritian means you have to be a sucker” card.
Portman is deluding himself with the born that way lie.
Logic and reason dictate why homsexuality and any marriage based on the fetish is illogical and unreasonable.
Portman should resign effective immediatly.
if portman can capitulate of this direct issue of right vs wrong against hedonism.
portman is wrong man on the military.
portman is wrong man on taxation
portman is wrong man on ecconomy
portman is just wrong.
Why is this story comming to us via england? are the british mucking around our elections again? is the msm tryg to suck air from CPAC?
A woman has the right to do what she wants when it comes to her body. She is allowed to murder any life forms that invade her space and she is allowed to have sex whenever with whomever she wishes.
However she is not allowed to marry a man who is already married even if the other woman is agreeable to the marriage.
Common sense (sarc)
More than that, you're going to have to PAY for my actions!
More than that, your health plans will have to COVER my actions!
And finally, more than that, we will pass laws that will put you in prison if you don't ENDORSE, PAY and COVER my actions!
A close parallel is the evolution of marijuana laws.
When the kids of influential people started getting popped for possession back in the hippie days, and faced the harsh prison sentences routinely handed out to the underclass, the law quickly moderated and sentences became relaxed for the little darlings.
Possession is no longer even a “crime” in most states.
Some animals are more equal that others ~ Orwell.