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G.O.P.ís Portman, Saying Son Is Gay, Now Backs Same-Sex Marriage
NYT ^ | 3/16/13 | GERRY MULLANY

Posted on 03/15/2013 3:16:40 AM PDT by OKRA2012

Senator Rob Portman, the Ohio Republican, has switched his stand on same-sex marriage, saying he now supports it after his son told him he is gay.

Mr. Portman, who had been considered one of the leading candidates to be Mitt Romney’s running mate in 2012, told Ohio newspapers that his son Will told him and his wife, Jane, in 2011 of his sexual orientation.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; marriage; portman

1 posted on 03/15/2013 3:16:40 AM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: OKRA2012

If I had a son who wanted to marry another man, a toaster, or a favorite novel, that wouldn’t make me willing to pretend that any of those pairings is a real marriage.


2 posted on 03/15/2013 3:21:44 AM PDT by Pollster1
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To: OKRA2012

Why do these politicians think that they can change a moral fundamental just because one of their relatives has fallen to that sin? As Hillary might say, “What difference does it make?” Is marriage an agreement between a man and a woman, or not? Some would say: a man, a woman, and God. It has always been defined as such, and what Sen. Portman’s son does doesn’t change it.


3 posted on 03/15/2013 3:24:19 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: OKRA2012
This proves that Mr. Portman had positions on various topics that were not backed up by principles, in the same way that Senator Feinstein has a position on the 2nd Amendment that is not backed up by principles.
4 posted on 03/15/2013 3:25:06 AM PDT by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: OKRA2012

My brother was gay (died of likely AIDS). My ex’s son is gay. We had very good gay friends. Our individual relations and associations do not redefine the institution of marriage.


5 posted on 03/15/2013 3:26:29 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: OKRA2012

That is so intellectually lazy. The only reason for gays to ‘get married’ is to have society accept their sexual acts as equivalent to natural copulation. They are not.

Marriage, ordained by God, is a sacred commitment to having children (naturally - not by petri dish/egg & sperm donation) to raise in love and spirituality.

Sadly, in this modern age, too many heterosexual couples have abandoned the sanctity of marriage. Since homosexuality is a sin in all religions - how can anyone find a rationale for gay marriage? Society’s acceptance is the only answer.

The human race is heading into extinction.


6 posted on 03/15/2013 3:28:48 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: OKRA2012

Unicorns are gay. Teddy bears and pink ponies are gay. Homosexuals are not gay. They are miserable, self loathing sexual perverts and a tiny fraction of the total population; a fringe group provided extra - ordinary power and protected class status by secular humanists on the left to drive a wedge against traditional Christian family values...and now the GOP wants to embrace that. To hell with them.


7 posted on 03/15/2013 3:32:07 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: sodpoodle

Very well said!


8 posted on 03/15/2013 3:43:24 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: sodpoodle

...”Marriage, ordained by God, is a sacred commitment to having children (naturally - not by petri dish/egg & sperm donation) to raise in love and spirituality”...

And, if law and order ever breaks down, political correctness will go and Mother Nature will reassert herself.
If our society could be likened to a computer hard drive, I think it is about full and the memory is overtaxed..A crash is coming.


9 posted on 03/15/2013 3:45:24 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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Which means that Portman is going to support law that forces others to service and support his son’s homosexuality.

Dick.


10 posted on 03/15/2013 3:46:54 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: TADSLOS
Unicorns are gay. Teddy bears and pink ponies are gay. Homosexuals are not gay. They are miserable, self loathing sexual perverts and a tiny fraction of the total population;

Absolutely true!

Leftists are very good at relabeling/rebranding via political correctness (aka fascism).

Communist -> Progressive -> Liberal -> Progressive

Homosexual -> Gay

NAZI (Natl Socialist Workers Party) -> Rightwing

Leftism was responsible for > 200 MILLION deaths in the 20th century = pure evil.

11 posted on 03/15/2013 3:53:29 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: OKRA2012

I think I am pretty much sick of hearing about gays. Is there such a thing as Gay Fatigue Syndrome (GFS)?
It’s all day now, 24/7 ...

GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY.
Obama loves gays, the GOP loves gays, everybody loves gays!
GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY.
The military loves gays, the gays love gays, everybody loves gays.
GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY.
Gay all day, Gay All night, Gays on the left, and gays on the right.
GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY! Horray!


12 posted on 03/15/2013 3:54:05 AM PDT by BRK
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To: OKRA2012

And probably because he has a friend that hires a latino worker, he will now vote for the dream act amnesty bill.

I give up!

The republican party as we once knew it is dead.


13 posted on 03/15/2013 3:57:03 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: TADSLOS

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled G.O.P.’s Portman, Saying Son Is Gay, Now Backs Same-Sex Marriage , TADSLOS wrote:
“Unicorns are gay. Teddy bears and pink ponies are gay. Homosexuals are not gay. They are miserable, self loathing sexual perverts and a tiny fraction of the total population”

No they’re not, they’re 10% of the population I read it in the New York Times....(I trust you understand I am being sarcastic)...But Portman’s turn around is one reason why as I’m paying attention as to who is saying what at the CPAC and why they’re not doing this..

When the democrats decided to remove God or any reference to Our Creator at their 2012 convention. They also demonstrated they are no longer the democratic party of your father’s father. They have become a hyphenated radical unit and should be known as Demo-Coms dedicated to the establishment of a collective idealism using the device of PCP to modify behavior and shed beliefs that they believe would impede remaking their concept of the perfect utopian state. That is hardly democratic because the word democrat idealizes the individual voice.

But Rove, GOPES (GOP Elite Snobs) and RINOS lack the capacity or the understanding or the courage to point to the historic radicalization that occured at that moment and use it politically. Worse yet they are unable to forthrightly defend what the demo-coms have set out to destroy and some are even comming up with their own version of PCP . Anyone preaching PCP is going down the poisonous road to oblivion . Following a policy of PCP. Politically Correct Politics which the hyphenated democrat party, the Demo-Coms,is using is flat out wrong.Worse yet moral questions such as marriage, sexual practices, family constituency and particularly beliefs those of containing Judeo Christian tenets are being assulted and not defended. That offers a majority of voters no choice in the direction this country is to take.

PCP when used by the Demo-Coms such terms as: Afro-American, Hispanic-American, Asian-American, White-American, Rich-American ,Gay-American, are more than simply nouns but vehicles used to separate US from each other. Beside separating US from our money the Demo-Coms demand we become adhearents to a system without the constituional constraints on government. Thus surrendering our protections from governmental abuses and excessive bureacracy to the will of a bureaucratic collective which is no longer answerable to the average citizen.

Sadly for the Republicans and it seems conservatives God remains in Limbo


14 posted on 03/15/2013 3:58:35 AM PDT by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: OKRA2012
Senator Rob Portman, the Ohio Republican, has switched his stand on same-sex marriage, saying he now supports it after his son told him he is gay.

This turnaround by a politician demonstrates how "fluid" our politicians are. They just hold their finger to the wind and adjust their positions to which way the wind is blowing today.

How many genuine Statesmen do we have in office, two? three? more? fewer?

15 posted on 03/15/2013 4:03:51 AM PDT by olezip
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To: jimfree

I’m sorry, and I agree; Jesus didn’t define morality by individuals’ circumstances, but by His Father’s law.


16 posted on 03/15/2013 4:06:09 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: jazzlite

“And, if law and order ever breaks down, political correctness will go and Mother Nature will reassert herself.”

I thought Mother Nature had asserted itself with the gay population; they have shorter lives, can’t breed, and a whole host of medical and mental issues that make it clear that it is a mental illness. Just because the government pretends that this isn’t the case doesn’t make it so.


17 posted on 03/15/2013 4:08:26 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: OKRA2012

There have ALWAYS been gays. Always will be I suppose

But it is an abberation and should be treated as such. The deal, in most major population centers was. “You don’t stick it in our faces and we leave you alone to do what you do in PRIVATE”

The closet was a good thing.


18 posted on 03/15/2013 4:10:38 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: OKRA2012

If Portman’s son was a thief, would he favor the legalization of theft?


19 posted on 03/15/2013 4:12:08 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: OKRA2012

This is all a pretext to eventually legalizing sex with children. That’s what this is all about. Incremental-ism.


20 posted on 03/15/2013 4:13:06 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: OKRA2012
My son came out and said he loves 2 women, therefore I'm in favor of polygamy.

What's the difference?
Who is it hurting?

21 posted on 03/15/2013 4:20:34 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: OKRA2012

When you get right down to it, this is why so many people accept faggots. They have a relative or friend who is one.

They aren’t bad people, they are just sick.

Now they want their sickness to spread like any other disease. It is a sickness of the mind, but it should not change marriage.


22 posted on 03/15/2013 4:21:38 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: OKRA2012

So will he support decriminalizing murder if his son kills someone?


23 posted on 03/15/2013 4:21:47 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: OKRA2012
Mr. Portman has reached this conclusion based upon feelings and emotions. Here's a different conclusion, based upon faith and reason ....

"Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God," wrote Cardinal Bergoglio in a letter sent to the monasteries of Buenos Aires. "We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God." ... Pope Francis

24 posted on 03/15/2013 4:23:47 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
This is all a pretext to eventually legalizing sex with children. That’s what this is all about. Incremental-ism.

Flavious, that's what my husband always says is the long-term goal. The other thing he always says is that at some point, it will be a high school graduation requirement to perform some type of homosexual sex.

25 posted on 03/15/2013 4:29:40 AM PDT by Old_Grouch (65 and AARP-free. Monthly FR contributor.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Very simple....God’s way or man’s way.


26 posted on 03/15/2013 4:30:09 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: OKRA2012

I hate politicians whose positions change depending on how it affects them.


27 posted on 03/15/2013 4:30:51 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I’ve read reports that NAMBLA is pushing this w/APA - the psycho group that “normalized” homosexuality by removing the “mental disorder” association.


28 posted on 03/15/2013 4:34:33 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: BRK
To think Portman was Romney's right hand man.... Sometimes I am not all that bothered that Romney lost.

(Looks like you signed up a little before me and got BRK...I had to take BRL)

29 posted on 03/15/2013 4:35:12 AM PDT by BRL
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To: FES0844
Very simple....God’s way or man's satan’s way.
30 posted on 03/15/2013 4:35:31 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: newfreep

Indeed, you are correct!


31 posted on 03/15/2013 4:37:22 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: mosesdapoet

> No they’re not, they’re 10% of the population I read it in the New York Times....(I trust you understand I am being sarcastic).

And they keep hoping to raise their numbers by indoctrinating (converting) them in school and on Boi Scout camping trips


32 posted on 03/15/2013 4:37:30 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: OKRA2012

Woola my son’s gay so now I back gay marriage.How dumb is that.I haven’t met one gay couple who wants to get married so why push it.Is it for the benefits .Then name it something else.Marriage is a sacrament before God.I just don’t get it.


33 posted on 03/15/2013 4:49:53 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: OKRA2012

Let God be true and every man a liar.


34 posted on 03/15/2013 4:59:13 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: OKRA2012

bail on the whole country because your son wants a special benefit?

Nice work, Portman...


35 posted on 03/15/2013 5:03:42 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: OKRA2012

What I said on an earlier thread:

The notion that we must endorse the sin of someone we love is a reversal of all morality.

Rob Portman, and indeed most of Western civilization, will continue to decline—rapidly—if the population doesn’t get this concept correct.

We can love our children, but not their behavior.

What if I were an alcoholic, or what if I were inclined to abuse someone who angers me? I was “born” that way, you know. I can’t help myself, it is just the way I am!

Well, Mr. Portman (and the rest of the West!), you are just going to have to accept me. More than that, you’re going to have to pass laws that ENDORSE my actions!

There is such a thing as “right” and “wrong”.

We are calling good “evil” and evil “good”, something the sages from Moses to Jesus to Paul to Aquinas to Calvin and Luther warned against. And we do this to our detriment.


36 posted on 03/15/2013 5:07:33 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: OKRA2012
I suppose of Portman’s son had announced he preferred sex with young boys, Portman would now support pedophilia; or if his son wanted a sex change operation, he would support that, too. For, if you embrace the (G)ays, the you must embrace the BLT, too, plus another alphabet soup of perversions.

Seems to me a parent can love a child without supporting their bad choices.

This reversal by Portman seems politically motivated to avoid tough questions from the media that Portman does not have the moral fiber to answer. Now, he is amoral - there is no right or wrong.

37 posted on 03/15/2013 5:14:34 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: OKRA2012

“For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” - 2 Timothy 3:2-5

Once again, God gets it right, Senator Portman.


38 posted on 03/15/2013 5:16:01 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mister Da

(Robot voice) ... Enter Delta Quattro Sigma....... RINOIZATION COMPLETED. BEEP BEEP BEEP


39 posted on 03/15/2013 5:18:30 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Democrats, in fact, do that ~ they have relatives who are criminals so they seek to pass laws that justify the crimes.

So Romney had another Democrat on his short list, and a gay to boot. Think he was looking for easier hookups or something?

40 posted on 03/15/2013 5:19:37 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TADSLOS

Amen Bro.


41 posted on 03/15/2013 5:32:43 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: OKRA2012

Men on Men is particularly offensive and downright dangerous and risky.

Its like seeing how many cheap hookers you can find for unprotected action.


42 posted on 03/15/2013 5:50:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: TADSLOS

That sounds like something Sen Portman would have said 5 yrs ago...


43 posted on 03/15/2013 6:08:58 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: OKRA2012
I remember when the late Reggie White was on the Sean Hannity show.

A "gay" caller asked him "what if your son was gay? What would you do?". Of course this question is the classic one designed to make you tongue-tied, if not shut you up completely.

Reggie answered "I would still love my son, but have him seek help and guidance" or words to that effect.

The most simple of answers, yet I have seldom hear anyone, at least in the public eye, respond this simply and cogently. Instead, you get responses like Portman ("you're right, now I must change my views"), or the person actually does become flummoxed and not know how to answer such a simple question.

44 posted on 03/15/2013 6:11:25 AM PDT by PallMal
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To: OKRA2012; All

ok second thread,

Portman knew for years.

Romney’s vp selection committee knew.

Portman is compromised and was blackmail”able”

Portman should have kicked out his son.

Portman is trying to oppose preemptivly a constitutional amendment.

Portman is playing the “chritian means you have to be a sucker” card.

Portman is deluding himself with the born that way lie.

Logic and reason dictate why homsexuality and any marriage based on the fetish is illogical and unreasonable.

Portman should resign effective immediatly.


45 posted on 03/15/2013 6:21:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: PallMal

if portman can capitulate of this direct issue of right vs wrong against hedonism.

portman is wrong man on the military.

portman is wrong man on taxation

portman is wrong man on ecconomy

portman is just wrong.

Why is this story comming to us via england? are the british mucking around our elections again? is the msm tryg to suck air from CPAC?


46 posted on 03/15/2013 6:24:14 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: YankeeReb

A woman has the right to do what she wants when it comes to her body. She is allowed to murder any life forms that invade her space and she is allowed to have sex whenever with whomever she wishes.
However she is not allowed to marry a man who is already married even if the other woman is agreeable to the marriage.

Common sense (sarc)


47 posted on 03/15/2013 6:28:53 AM PDT by winodog
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To: SoFloFreeper
More than that, you’re going to have to pass laws that ENDORSE my actions!

More than that, you're going to have to PAY for my actions!

More than that, your health plans will have to COVER my actions!

And finally, more than that, we will pass laws that will put you in prison if you don't ENDORSE, PAY and COVER my actions!

48 posted on 03/15/2013 10:22:27 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Joe 6-pack

A close parallel is the evolution of marijuana laws.

When the kids of influential people started getting popped for possession back in the hippie days, and faced the harsh prison sentences routinely handed out to the underclass, the law quickly moderated and sentences became relaxed for the little darlings.

Possession is no longer even a “crime” in most states.

Some animals are more equal that others ~ Orwell.


49 posted on 03/16/2013 5:30:31 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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