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Tyranny: The Founding Fathers Took A Stand Against It. Now It Is Our Turn
Freedom Outpost ^ | Mar. 15, 2013 | Jim Stachowiak

Posted on 03/15/2013 3:15:35 PM PDT by EXCH54FE

The Department of Homeland Security and police forces label anyone who they disagree with or who disagrees with government policies as terrorists.We have already seen how FEMA refers to the Founding Fathers as terrorists.

In the early years leading up to the first American Revolution our founding fathers were demonized by the majority of their fellow citizens. In fact the media of their day (newspapers) even went so far as to label them as kooks, wack jobs and people who needed to be institutionalized. This was an ad hominem attack in an attempt to destroy their creditably and turn their fellow citizens against them. Sounds like what we have been hearing from the TRAITORS in D.C. for years from members of both parties.

Patrick Henry in his historic speech Give me liberty or give me death said:

Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

Unfortunately, many who call themselves PATRIOTS are, in fact, not our fellow countrymen, but should be considered TRAITORS as they are afraid to speak out and criticize government policies out of fear of what may happen if they do. Many who do speak out are being politically correct when they do, and tout the fact they have not been labeled wack jobs by the media and fellow Americans. This clearly shows they are not doing enough to shake up the tyrants, based upon historic precedents.

One opposes tyranny, or one enables it. There is no middle ground and time is not an ally. Wrapping tyranny in the flag and calling it security makes it no less evil.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
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Anyone who disagrees with the acceptable way of looking at things is a terrorist.

How is this different from Stalin or Mau’s use of labels such as “enemy of the state?

1 posted on 03/15/2013 3:15:35 PM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”

Ayn Rand


2 posted on 03/15/2013 3:19:24 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Establishment Republicans don't like that totalitarian thing unless it is THEIR totalitarian thing!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Never Happen,we are too far gone to ever stand now.


3 posted on 03/15/2013 3:21:06 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: EXCH54FE

“Tyranny: The Founding Fathers Took A Stand Against It. Now It Is Our Turn”

Can’t disagree. Now let’s see if conservatives can organize enough to attend a local town council meeting to oppose a property tax and vote in a constitutional sheriff in their local counties. From my experience, most conservatives are still organized around remodeling their kitchens, barbecuing ribs and worshipping the false god mammon.


4 posted on 03/15/2013 3:25:55 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave
You may be correct, however a constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much in the minority.

If I were the only person in America who believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. Some would think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.

I can only say, “MOLON LABE”. For me, that will be my cry as I fight and fall if I must. I will not live without our GOD given rights!.

It will all be talk, until someone comes to take our Guns, then what will you do?

5 posted on 03/15/2013 3:40:57 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416 "It’s one thing to make a law, It’s another to enforce it.")
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To: EXCH54FE
It is a righteous thing to put on the mantle of Ronald Reagan and wear it proudly.

People complain - where is Reagan when we need him?

Well, folks WE have to be Ronald Reagan.

The progressives could not stand him while he was alive.

Can you imagine their utter dismay if they were faced with a nation of red-blooded Ronald Reagans?


6 posted on 03/15/2013 3:47:36 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Slyfox
The progressives could not stand him while he was alive.

Neither could the Rockefeller Republicans, well of course, they did like him when they could ride his coattails.

7 posted on 03/15/2013 3:51:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: EXCH54FE
If I am doing nothing wrong and they label me a terrorist
what motivation do I have to behave myself?


8 posted on 03/15/2013 3:57:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: EasySt

Put it together. All the pieces are already there. They don’t ADD A NEW PIECE every day.


9 posted on 03/15/2013 4:00:02 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: freedumb2003

Bookmark forlater


10 posted on 03/15/2013 4:03:30 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: freedumb2003

Bookmark forlater


11 posted on 03/15/2013 4:03:35 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: EXCH54FE
Unfortunately, many who call themselves PATRIOTS are, in fact, not our fellow countrymen, but should be considered TRAITORS as they are afraid to speak out and criticize government policies out of fear of what may happen if they do.

When they do, they stand alone.

"Bill Whatcott asking Supreme Court to reconsider hate speech ruling"
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-bill-whatcott-asking-supreme-court-to-reconsider-hate-speech-rulin/

12 posted on 03/15/2013 4:10:17 PM PDT by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: EXCH54FE

13 posted on 03/15/2013 4:14:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Craftmore
Never Happen,we are too far gone to ever stand now.

I have to grudgingly agree. These changes have taken place so incrementally that those with the gumption to fix things are far too few in number.

This doesn't mean that we can't know freedom .. it's just that we're going to have to look outside the borders of the US and take a little more risk than we're accustomed to.

14 posted on 03/15/2013 4:21:03 PM PDT by The Duke (We don't rent pigs, but apparently we *do* ELECT them.)
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To: freedumb2003

When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you - you know your nation is doomed.

-Ayn Rand


15 posted on 03/15/2013 4:21:27 PM PDT by laplata
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To: EXCH54FE
The fact that we have come to this discussion about defending Our Constitutional rights means it may already be too late. Marx, hitler, mao, and all of the empirical megalomaniac despots throughout history were masters at manipulating the emotions of the populace, and bending them to their will to achieve their own ends. Logic and reason need not apply. To those that say it could never happen here: maybe the followers of the despots will put that epitaph on your headstone, assuming you don't end up in a mass grave, or a pile of ashes in a furnace along with all of the other naive ones.
16 posted on 03/15/2013 4:27:35 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

Throughout my adult life, California has always been a bellwether culturally and politically for the US as a whole, typically 10 or 15 years ahead.

I think we can look at California today and see where the US is headed. Dem control, supermajority legislatures, gun control, green hysteria, mega taxation, etc.


17 posted on 03/15/2013 4:31:45 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: The Duke; Craftmore

A Christian restoration of holiness can fix this.

Check out some of the links in the first paragraph at the following link:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2997340/posts


18 posted on 03/15/2013 4:40:36 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: EXCH54FE

The writer is wrong.

Civil War will invite invasion. It signs the death certificate of this country.

Don’t do it.

A restoration of Christian holiness is the only way out.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2997340/posts


19 posted on 03/15/2013 4:41:55 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: The Duke

Don’t quit. Freedom hates a quitter.


20 posted on 03/15/2013 4:49:28 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: EXCH54FE

” For me, that will be my cry as I fight and fall if I must.”

That statement is the problem. You’re willing to die on a hilltop, alone, with nobody protecting your flank.

Seriously, I hate this lone-wolf crap from survivalists. If you haven’t learned how to join up with like-minded patriots in a community, you’re nothing more than a canary in the coal mine.


21 posted on 03/15/2013 4:51:21 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

“I hate this lone-wolf crap from survivalists”

I never said that I would be or wanted to be any sort of a “lone-wolf” I would hope that if it comes, I would be a part of a large group of like minded people in support of our 2nd Amendment rights.

If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our country was built on.

We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770s and we will not be ruled in 2013 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.


22 posted on 03/15/2013 5:04:19 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416 "It’s one thing to make a law, It’s another to enforce it.")
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To: The Duke; Craftmore
Revolution(s) always started with just a few men, who set an example.
There are plenty of those out there who would follow,
things just have to get bad enough that those who would set an example, and decide that enough is enough,
step up and do what such men always do...
say 'Follow me' to those that would.
23 posted on 03/15/2013 5:16:19 PM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: Craftmore

I think it will eventually when enough us of are successfully evading the oppressive law and defending ourselfs out of nessitiy we will find that we have the means and will to overthrow the corrupt mess that remains of the occupying force that is Washington’s.

All Empires fall, this one is no different, we simply have to learn to play the game to hasten that fall and see to it that we are not crushed under it.

No conservative should condemn any fellow conservative for evading taxes or unjust laws, we should simply quietly ignore it if we cannot give them silent encouragement.

Do however in the strongest of terms condemn liberals for that action for theirs is an act of oppressive hypocracy.


24 posted on 03/15/2013 5:29:04 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: EXCH54FE
I will not live without our GOD given rights!

We need to ensure that those who claim unalienable rights recognized by the Constitution are also faithful in their allegiance and deportment to The God Who created us to obey His laws.

25 posted on 03/15/2013 5:35:51 PM PDT by imardmd1
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To: EXCH54FE

“I would hope that if it comes, I would be a part of a large group of like minded people in support of our 2nd Amendment rights.”

I’m inviting you to check out our patriot community, EXCH54FE. We have a need to recruit more vets like you into our active state-sponsored battalions and reserve divisions.

Semper fi, buddy.


26 posted on 03/15/2013 5:44:29 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: imardmd1

If we are going to have any hope of doing that it is indispensable that we organised ourselves in a new group.

The Sons Of Liberty. Someone must found and expand this group with limited and agreeable goals of defending our rights, and our neighborhoods.

We must expect and deflect the charge that liberty is racist, and instead point out to the media that racism is tyranny.


27 posted on 03/15/2013 5:49:03 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: factoryrat

“To those that say it could never happen here: maybe the followers of the despots will put that epitaph on your headstone, assuming you don’t end up in a mass grave, or a pile of ashes in a furnace along with all of the other naive ones.”

1930s Germany was full of basically good people infected with normalcy bias. The holocaust started with demonizing the innocent and euthanizing the unwanted.

The euthanizing in America started with Roe v Wade, and will continue with death panels. Nowadays, leftist leaders demonize innocents like the TEA party, gun owners, and Christians with impunity. It’s clear where this country is headed.


28 posted on 03/15/2013 5:49:09 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: EXCH54FE

“We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770s and we will not be ruled in 2013 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.”

True.

Absolute freedom in this country lasted from April 19th, 1775 until April 19th, 1993. Both incidents started with a government gun grab.


29 posted on 03/15/2013 5:53:48 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: ROTB

Secession is the way to go. The whole nation cannot be saved. A divorce is necessary to relieve the present situation. Things are irreconcilable. We need to carve off a big chunk of the South and Mid West and start over again. If that leads to Civil War, so be it. Bring. I relish the thought. Nay, dare I say hope for it.


30 posted on 03/15/2013 5:56:25 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: EXCH54FE
I am not any more bold that most Americans here on FR, but, I will tell you this much, the government will come, I will resist with my life if necessary. I could never look my wife or my children in the face if I let the government drag them out of my house and confiscate my firearms simply because some bed-wetters in Washington thought I was a threat to them and this imperial president!

I have planned for this day for several years now, I won't go down without a fight. I go to all my county and township meetings, I have filed Racketeering charges against those who were supposed to be representing the people's interest locally and only voted to give themselves our hard earned tax dollars!

I am certain to be on the governments list and understood many years now that I will be a target of this government. While I pray a civil war does not happen, that blood if innocents is not shed, that time has passed. This out of control government is pushing the American people into a civil war so they can pick up the pieces. History has taught us that those in charge of the government always under estimate the peoples’ will to fight for their freedoms and when push comes to shove, this government is going to find out what it means when Americans say “the home of the brave!”

Again, I am not any more braver that most Americans, but, I have reconciled myself to dying if necessary to protect mine.

God bless everyone and please stay safe!

31 posted on 03/15/2013 6:59:57 PM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: PotatoChop

I understand where you are coming from, but please ask the question in a slightly different form:

“For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.”

“Are you willing to die to take my guns?”

Sometimes it is the way you form the question that changes the outcome!

MOLON LABE


32 posted on 03/15/2013 7:27:39 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416 "It’s one thing to make a law, It’s another to enforce it.")
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To: central_va

If that leads to Civil War, so be it. Bring. I relish the thought. Nay, dare I say hope for it.

***

China / Russia / North Korea / Venezuela / Cuba will all invade during the chaos CW2 will create. They will EMP and nuke us when we’re all caught up in ourselves, and then they’ll stream in the troops.

I SAMUEL 15:23
23 For rebellion [is as] the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness [is as] iniquity and idolatry ...

You wouldn’t think of picking up a “book of spells” and thus giving yourself to Satan, but you’d pick up arms and fight the government?

a. which says, “Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, [but] gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.”
b. which says, “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.”
c. which says, “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resists the power, resists the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.”

Even if you can secede without a fight, California Democrats will bankrupt the state, and invite China in for “progressivism”.

A restoration of holiness to American Christianity is the only way out.


33 posted on 03/15/2013 7:29:20 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: ROTB
A Christian restoration of holiness can fix this.

Now *that* I can agree with. :)

I've been saying in recent weeks that what this country needs is a movement that is not unlike "Promise Keepers".

34 posted on 03/15/2013 7:32:32 PM PDT by The Duke (We don't rent pigs, but apparently we *do* ELECT them.)
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To: central_va

c. Titus 3:1-2 which says, “Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, [but] gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.”
d. 1 Peter 2:13-14 which says, “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.”
e. Romans 13:1-2 which says, “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resists the power, resists the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.”


35 posted on 03/15/2013 7:32:39 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: EXCH54FE

“Sometimes it is the way you form the question that changes the outcome!”

Very true! Thanks


36 posted on 03/15/2013 7:32:53 PM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: sergeantdave; EXCH54FE
My husband and I are all alone in our neighborhood. We have been looking for, and may have found, like-minded folks in another neighborhood, but it may come down to us standing for ourselves.

If we must do so, it would be nice to think we were brave canaries.

37 posted on 03/15/2013 8:51:21 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: ROTB
China / Russia / North Korea / Venezuela / Cuba

So who invaded the US/CS during the last Civil War? You are insane.

38 posted on 03/16/2013 4:53:07 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ROTB

George Washington prayed a lot and led This Nation,,,,
Jesus drove the Money Changers from the Temple,,,

lots of Wiggle room here FRiend.


39 posted on 03/16/2013 6:16:40 AM PDT by Big Red Badger
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To: Big Red Badger

1) We do holiness
2) God does healing

Politics ain’t cutting it. God can.

Signed,
Freeper ROTB
**Please let me know if I can add you to the “Holiness Restoration” ping list.**
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - JAMES 1:22


40 posted on 03/16/2013 11:21:05 AM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: central_va

China / Russia / North Korea / Venezuela / Cuba

So who invaded the US/CS during the last Civil War? You are insane.

***

No man.

1) nuclear submarines parked off the coast can insta-nuke any coastal cities
2) nuclear submarines can also launch EMP blasts
3) suitcase nukes

Civil War 2 will provide all the distraction our enemies need.

CW2 = suicide. It will bring the end.

Our soldiers won’t be ready to fly/fight when they can’t reach their families during the height of CW2.

“Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand”
Matthew 12:25


41 posted on 03/16/2013 11:32:49 AM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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