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G&A Ranks the Best States for Gun Owners in 2013
Guns & Ammo ^ | 3/14/13 | James Tarr

Posted on 03/15/2013 3:31:38 PM PDT by LibWhacker

These days, it’s becoming more difficult for gun owners across the country to find safe haven, as the powers that be on both federal and state levels begin introducing a quagmire of anti-gun legislation hindering the rights of law-abiding citizens. States like Illinois are notorious for their anti-gun agendas, while states like Texas are viewed as a sort of shooters’ paradise.

But just how true are those reputations? To provide you, dear reader, with a primer of gun-friendly regions of the United States, we’ve analyzed all 50 states—and Washington, D.C.—and ranked them to find out which are the most pro-gun.

States can score a maximum 10 points per category, with a perfect score of 50. Full disclosure, though: No state attained that perfect score, though two states came awfully close. As was expected, Washington, D.C., kicked off our list with a whopping zero points, and other anti-gun Meccas such as New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts and California weren’t far behind. Topping our list of pro-gun states were Arizona, Vermont, Alaska, Utah and Kentucky. Click through the gallery below to see where your state ranked.

States were measured on gun rights/friendliness to gun owners by the following criteria:

50. New York

CCW/Open Carry: 3
MSRs: 1
Class 3/NFA: 0
Castle Doctrine: 3
Miscellaneous: 0
TOTAL: 7

With its new state law, New York has become the most restrictive state in the nation on magazine capacity. Possession of MSRs is prohibited except for those grandfathered in. New York is a May-Issue CCW state; generally speaking, the closer you are to New York City, the less chance you have of getting one. Also, New York now has a weapons seizure law, just in case the cops think you might be up to something. 18 percent of New Yorkers are gun owners, ranking the state 45th in the nation.

49. New Jersey

CCW/Open Carry: 2
MSRs: 1
Class 3/NFA: 2
Castle Doctrine: 2
Miscellaneous: 0
TOTAL: 7

Don’t move to New Jersey if you like guns, or want to own/buy one. The state requires a Firearms Purchasers Identification Card for any firearm purchase, with a separate permit required for handguns. Magazines are limited to under 15 rounds, with only one handgun purchase allowed per permit. New Jersey is a May-Issue CCW state, but rarely issues them. MSRs could be grandfathered in, provided they were purchased before May 1, 1990, and registered before May 1 1991. Any MSR not owned before May 1, 1990, must be registered in the same manner as machine guns, and similar semi-auto rifles are not available today. Residents need a permit to buy ammo. NFA guns require a state license—good luck with that. For self-defense, retreat is required in many situations. For everybody who loves Repbulican Gov. Chris Christie, he has not even mentioned relaxing any of New Jersey’s gun laws. The state has the second lowest percentage of gun owners—12 percent—in the Union.

48. Massachusetts

CCW/Open Carry: 3
MSRs: 0
Class 3/NFA: 0
Castle Doctrine: 5
Miscellaneous: 0
TOTAL: 8

Massachusetts is no friend to gun owners. It is a May-Issue CCW state, and a state license is required for buying guns or ammunition. According to the NRA-ILA, "It is unlawful to sell, transfer, or possess 'any assault weapon or a large capacity ammunition feeding device that was not otherwise lawfully possessed on September 13, 1994.'" All guns stored in the home have to be locked up. It has the third lowest percentage of gun owners of all 50 states; just 12.6 percent of residents own guns.

47. California

CCW/Open Carry: 2
MSRs: 1
Class 3/NFA: 0
Castle Doctrine: 6
Miscellaneous: 0
TOTAL: 9

Where do I begin? The subjects of California are restricted to one handgun purchase per 30 days, have to live with magazine capacity restrictions and only handguns on the “approved” list are legal for sale in the state. While CCWs are technically legal, good luck trying getting one. There are so many restrictions on MSRs that their appearance is butchered. The state has a Castle Doctrine law, but it doesn’t apply to cars or at work.

46. Hawaii

CCW/Open Carry: 2
MSRs: 2
Class 3/NFA: 0
Castle Doctrine: 4
Miscellaneous: 2
TOTAL: 10

Hawaii is technically a May-Issue CCW state, but good luck trying to get one. A state permit to purchase is required to buy a handgun—some of which are prohibited. There are restrictions on assault weapons and any magazine that holds more than 10 rounds, and no Class 3/NFA weapons are allowed. The state has a Castle Doctrine law, but retreat is required outside the home. Hawaii has the lowest percentage of gun owners—6.7 percent—of all the states.

45. Connecticut

CCW/Open Carry: 6
MSRs: 2
Class 3/NFA: 2
Castle Doctrine: 7
Miscellaneous: 3
TOTAL: 20

While officially a May-Issue CCW state, Connecticut is a Shall-Issue state in practice—with a lot of requirements. An eligibility certificate is required to purchase a pistol. There are a number of restrictions on MSRs based on features—MSRs may be possessed provided they were purchased before Oct. 1, 1993, and the owner received a certificate of possession from the Connecticut State Police before July 1994, according to the NRA-ILA. As far as machine guns are concerned, the NRA writes, "It is lawful to possess a machine gun in compliance with federal law, provided annual registration takes place with the state police." The state has a Castle Doctrine law that applies to residences. Connecticut is one of only a few states that has a law allowing for seizure of your weapons if the police just think you’re a danger to yourself or others, and may keep the gun for up to a year. There are also plenty of laws circulating in local and state legislatures about guns due to the Sandy Hook shooting.

44. Illinois

CCW/Open Carry: 0
MSRs: 8
Class 3/NFA: 2
Castle Doctrine: 9
Miscellaneous: 2
TOTAL: 21

As bad a reputation Illinois gets from gun owners—mostly due to Chicago—there are a lot of states that are worse. A FOID (Firearm Owner Identification) card is required to buy and/or own a gun. MSRs and standard capacity magazines are legal as long as you’re not in Chicago or Cook County. As far as Class 3/NFA weapons are concerned, AOWs are allowed, but no other NFA/Class 3 items. Illinois is currently the only state in the Union with no provision for concealed carry, though a recent court decision could change that this summer. Illinois has a Castle Doctrine with specific laws that prevent lawsuits being filed against a defender of dwelling, and no requirement for retreat.

43. Maryland

CCW/Open Carry: 4
MSRs: 3
Class 3/NFA: 8
Castle Doctrine: 5
Miscellaneous: 1
TOTAL: 21

Maryland is a May-Issue CCW state and has banned certain “assault pistols.” Magazines that hold more than 20 rounds can’t be manufactured or sold, but they can be possessed. Only handguns on the official register can be sold in the state, residents can only buy one gun a month, and Prince George County just banned gun shows. The state has a Castle Doctrine law, but invitees or guests may have a duty to retreat.

42. Rhode Island

CCW/Open Carry: 3
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 0
Castle Doctrine: 6
Miscellaneous: 3
TOTAL: 22

Rhode Island is (in effect) a May-Issue CCW state, but most jurisdictions won’t issue them without a specific “need.” All buyers must first pass a state safety exam. Rhode Island’s Castle Doctrine is limited to the inside of a dwelling or a chicken coop, with no duty to retreat. NFA weapons not allowed, but there are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. In addition, 12.8 percent of residents are gun owners, placing Rhode Island 47th in the nation in gun ownership.

41. Delaware

CCW/Open Carry: 5
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 1
Castle Doctrine: 8
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 34

Delaware is a May-Issue CCW state, but open carry is generally legal. Civilian ownership of Class 3 weapons allowed for “research purposes” only; otherwise, it's a felony. Delaware has no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. There are no restrictions on defense of home, self, etc.

40. Washington

CCW/Open Carry: 6
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 3
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 5
TOTAL: 34

Washington is a Shall-Issue CCW state, with a long list of places where possession or storage of ammunition and firearms is prohibited. According to the NRA-ILA, "A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless he has a license to carry a concealed weapon and the pistol is on his person, or the person with the concealed carrying license is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or the person with the concealed carrying license is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle."

Washington has CCW reciprocity with 12 states, but only recognizes Class 1 permits from North Dakota. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. For Class 3 weapons, suppressors are legal, and machine guns are allowed for anyone who possesses a National Firearms Tax Stamp and who produce, manufacture or test machine guns. Washington has a Stand Your Ground law. A restrictive MSR bill was recently introduced into the state legislature, but then withdrawn after complaints—it allowed for police searches of homes to verify compliance. In addition, 33.1 percent of residents are gun owners.

39. Minnesota

CCW/Open Carry: 6
MSRs: 7
Class 3/NFA: 3
Castle Doctrine: 8
Miscellaneous:10
TOTAL: 34

Minnesota is a Shall-Issue CCW state, and a permit is required for carry. A permit is also required to purchase handguns or MSRs, but there are no magazine capacity restrictions. According to the NRA-ILA, "A person owning or possessing a machine gun or short-barreled shotgun shall, within ten (10) days after acquiring ownership or possession, file a written report with the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension showing his name, address, official title and position, if any, a full description of the arm, the purpose for which it is owned or possessed, and such further information as the Bureau may reasonably require."

The state has a Castle Doctrine with no listed duty to retreat, though certain court rulings have said otherwise. Statewide, 41.7 percent of the population owns guns, ranking Minnesota 21st in gun ownership.

38. Iowa

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 0
Castle Doctrine: 8
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 35

Iowa is a Shall-Issue CCW state that allows concealed carry with a permit, for which training is required. Residents need a permit to purchase a pistol. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity, but no NFA guns are allowed. The state boasts strong self-defense laws, with no duty to retreat in your home or business plus immunity from civil prosecution. Iowa ranks 16th in the nation in terms of ownership; 43 percent of residents are gun owners.

37. Colorado

CCW/Open Carry: 8
MSRs: 9
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 6
Miscellaneous: 5
TOTAL: 38

Colorado is a Shall-Issue CCW state. There is a bill in the Colorado legislature to limit magazines to 15 rounds—among other things—so Magpul may be looking for a new home. Denver has an assault weapons law, but otherwise citizens are unfettered. They have a Castle Doctrine law, allowing defense of home. In addition, 35 percent of residents are gun owners, placing Colorado 33rd in the nation.

36. New Mexico

CCW/Open Carry: 5
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 5
Miscellaneous: 9
TOTAL: 39

While it is a Shall-Issue state, New Mexico requires completion of a 15-hour course and other strict licensing requirements before you can get a CCW. MSRs and Class 3 weapons that have been legally registered are legal. In regards to self-defense, the law is weak, with no protection from lawsuits.

35. Ohio

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 7
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 7
Miscellaneous: 9
TOTAL: 40

Ohio is a Shall-Issue CCW state that requires 12 hours of training before a CCW can be obtained. Open carry is legal except in a vehicle. Ohio has reciprocity with at least 23 other states. There are no other restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. Ohio’s Castle Doctrine law extends to vehicles of self and immediate family.

34. Nebraska

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 5
Miscellaneous: 8
TOTAL: 40

A Shall-Issue CCW state, Nebraska requires a permit to purchase a handgun. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity, but they have very weak law regarding self-defense in the home. Nebraska places 28th in the nation with 38.6 percent of residents listed as gun owners.

33. Michigan

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 6
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 7
TOTAL: 40

Michigan is a Shall-Issue CCW state, and open carry is legal without a permit. As of December 2012, the state no longer requires a permit to purchase a handgun, according to the NRA-ILA. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. Machine guns and suppressors are (newly) legal, but short-barreled rifles are not.

32. Idaho

CCW/Open Carry: 8
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 2
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 40

A Shall-Issue CCW state that recognizes CCWs from all other states—except Illinois, which does not issue. In Idaho, shootings may be justified if defending your home against “tumultuous entry,” and whether or not you have a duty to retreat is vague. Idaho has no restrictions on MSRs or mag capacity.

31. Arkansas

CCW/Open Carry: 6
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 5
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 41

While generally pro-gun and a Shall-Issue CCW state, open carry is not allowed. As far as self-defense/Castle Doctrine, the defender may have to retreat in some situations. The state has no restrictions on mag capacity or types of guns that are legal.

30. Oklahoma

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 4
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 41

Oklahoma is a Shall-Issue CCW state with training requirements. The state has reciprocity with just about every state that issues CCWs. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. According to the NRA-ILA, "It is unlawful to possess, purchase, or sell a machine gun, except in compliance with all federal laws and regulations. It is unlawful to possess a sawed-off shotgun or rifle without a federal license."

Oklahoma has a Stand Your Ground law. In addition, 43 percent of the population owns guns, placing Oklahoma 16th in the nation.

29. Maine

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 5
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 42

Maine is a Shall-Issue CCW state, and open carry is permitted in a vehicle only with a license. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. However, there are a lot of legal restrictions on the use of force inside one’s home, and the law is vague as to whether you have a duty to retreat. With 40.5 percent of the population in possession of firearms, Maine ranks 24th in gun ownership.

28. Oregon

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 8
Miscellaneous: 7
TOTAL: 42

Oregon is a Shall-Issue CCW state with very few restrictions on where guns can be carried, but with no reciprocity. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. In addition, 40 percent of residents are gun owners, placing Oregon 26th in the nation in gun ownership.

27. South Dakota

CCW/Open Carry: 8
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 4
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 42

South Dakota is a Shall-Issue state with very few restrictions. South Dakota recognizes valid CCWs from every state. Laws have been passed ensuring firearms makers, distributors and sellers are not liable for any injury caused by the use of firearms. The state have no specific Castle Doctrine. In addition, 56.6 percent of residents are gun owners, placing South Dakota fourth in the nation.

26. North Dakota

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 8
Castle Doctrine: 8
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 43

North Dakota is a Shall-Issue CCW state with some minor restrictions. Open carry is legal only with a CCW. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. NFA firearms must be registered with the state Bureau of Criminal Investigation. North Dakota has laws in place protecting firearms manufacturers from suits in which an injury was suffered, unless there was a defect. 50.7 percent of residents are gun owners, ranking North Dakota 10th in the nation.

25. Wisconsin

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 8
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 7
TOTAL: 44

In Wisconsin, there is a 48-hour waiting period on handgun purchases. As of 2011, the state has concealed carry with no duty to inform, but no carry on some city buses. Machine guns are not legal to own. The NRA-ILA describes the legality of short-barreled rifles and suppressors as "a state of flux and clarification," adding legislators are seeking reform. Wisconsin has a Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground law with immunity from prosecution. Gov. Scott Walker has been fighting an uphill battle for gun rights in the state for the last few years.

24. Virginia

CCW/Open Carry: 8
MSRs: 8
Class 3/NFA: 8
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 44

A Shall-Issue CCW state, Virginia has reciprocity or agreements to honor CCWs of 27 states. There is no requirement to notify law enforcement you’re carrying, and open carry is generally legal. Semi-automatic shotguns with folding stocks and 12-round magazines are prohibited, but there are no other restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. NFA firearms must be registered with the State Police. Virginia is a Stand Your Ground state.

23. Tennessee

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 7
TOTAL: 44

Tennessee is a Shall-Issue CCW state with a number of restrictions on where you can’t carry. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. Residents have no duty to retreat before using deadly force—as long as they’re acting lawfully and allowed to be where they are. Some cities with existing laws can preempt state law.

22. Nevada

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 8
Miscellaneous: 9
TOTAL: 44

Nevada is a Shall-Issue CCW state, and requirements for CCW include shooting (qualifying). It has CCW reciprocity with 15 states, and open carry is generally legal. Nevada has laws protecting the confidentiality of CCW holders’ info, and there are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity.

21. West Virginia

CCW/Open Carry: 8
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 8
Miscellaneous: 9
TOTAL: 45

A Shall-Issue CCW state, West Virginia requires no permit to purchase, and private sales are legal. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. West Virginia’s Castle Doctrine law was enacted in 2008. In addition, 55 percent of residents are gun owners, placing West Virginia fifth in the nation in gun ownership.

20. Pennsylvania

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 8
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 45

Pennsylvania is a Shall-Issue state for LTF (License to Carry) firearms, which is also available for non-residents. Pennsylvania has CCW reciprocity with 27 states, and there are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. In addition, 34.7 percent of residents are gun owners, placing Pennsylvania 33rd in the nation in gun ownership.

19. North Carolina

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 9
Miscellaneous: 9
TOTAL: 45

North Carolina is a Shall-Issue CCW state. A state permit or CCW is required to purchase a handgun. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. North Carolina’s Castle Doctrine includes dwelling, workplace and vehicle.

18. Mississippi

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 8
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 45

Mississippi is a Shall-Issue state CCW state. The state has no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. About 55 percent of the population owns guns, ranking Mississippi sixth in the nation in gun ownership.

17. Louisiana

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 8
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 45

Louisiana is a Shall-Issue state for CCWs, and open carry is generally permitted. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacities. Residents have to get an NFA trust to obtain Class 3 weapons. Louisiana also has a Stand Your Ground law, and with 44 percent of the population in possession of firearms, the state ranks 13th in the nation in gun ownership.

16. Indiana

CCW/Open Carry: 8
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 8
Miscellaneous: 9
TOTAL: 45

Indiana is a Shall-Issue CCW state. Class 3 weapons are legal in accordance with federal regulations, and there are no restrictions on MSRs or magazines. Indiana has a Castle Doctrine law with no duty to retreat, but it only covers private property. In terms of ownership, 39 percent of Indiana residents are gun owners, placing the state 27th in the nation.

15. Texas

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 9
Miscellaneous: 9
TOTAL: 45

A Shall-Issue CCW state, Texas recognizes permits from 41 states. No open carry is allowed. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. Texas has a Stand Your Ground law for vehicles or workplaces with no duty to retreat, and immunity from civil lawsuits. Texas is known as a very pro-gun state, but only ranked 30th in the nation with gun owners making up 36 percent of the population.

14. South Carolina

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 9
TOTAL: 46

South Carolina is a Shall-Issue CCW state. South Carolina has no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. The state’s Stand Your Ground law was recently enacted. In addition, 42 percent of residents are gun owners, ranking South Carolina 18th in the nation.

13. Georgia

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 9
TOTAL: 46

Georgia is a Shall-Issue CCW state, and allows concealed or open carry with a permit on your person or in your car. Georgia has a Stand Your Ground law. 40.3 percent of residents own guns, placing Georgia 25th in terms of gun ownership.

12. Florida

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 9
TOTAL: 46

Florida is a Shall-Issue CCW state and leader of the modern CCW movement; no disclosure to LE required. No open carry is allowed except when hunting/fishing. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. Florida has a Stand Your Ground law made famous in the Trayvon Martin case. Only 25 percent of Florida residents are gun owners.

11. Montana

CCW/Open Carry: 8
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 8
TOTAL: 46

Montana is a Shall-Issue CCW state and recognizes CCWs from most other states. Open carry is legal. Montana has a Stand Your Ground law. In 2009, Montana lawmakers signed the Montana Firearms Freedom Act, which says that certain firearms and accessories made and sold within Montana are exempt from federal regulations, as they cannot be called interstate commerce. Montana has the third highest percentage of gun owners—57 percent—of any state in the Union. The Democratic governor just vetoed a bill that would have allowed for permit-less carry, similar to Arizona and Vermont.

10. New Hampshire

CCW/Open Carry: 8
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 9
TOTAL: 47

New Hampshire is a Shall-Issue CCW state. Open carry is legal without a permit—except in a vehicle—and the state has a new Stand Your Ground law, which was enacted in 2011. State legislators have spoken out against the president’s anti-gun proposals. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. New Hampshire ranks 39th in the nation in gun ownership with 30 percent of the population listed as gun owners.

9. Missouri

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 47

Missouri is a Shall-Issue CCW state. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. Missouri has no specific Stand Your Ground law, but the right of self-defense extends pretty much to all buildings and cars—even tents—and there is immunity from civil suits. A new bill was just introduced in the Missouri state legislature that would send lawmakers who introduce anti-gun legislation to prison, a week after a group of Democrats from St. Louis introduced an Assault Weapons Ban—which will get nowhere in the Republican-controlled state house.

8. Kansas

CCW/Open Carry: 8
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 9
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 47

Kansas enacted a Shall-Issue CCW law just a few years ago. Open carry is legal. The state’s Castle Doctrine covers defense of home, business or occupied vehicle. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity.

7. Alabama

CCW/Open Carry: 7
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 47

Alabama is not officially a Shall-Issue CCW state, but citizens are rarely turned down. Open carry is legal with some exceptions. There are no restrictions on MSRs or standard capacity magazines. Alabama has a Stand Your Ground law with no duty to retreat.

6. Wyoming

CCW/Open Carry: 10
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 7
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 47

Wyoming residents can carry concealed or open, and Wyoming recognizes CCWs from 33 states. The state has Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws for inside the home, but the law does not excuse you from a duty to retreat outside the home. Wyoming has the highest percentage of gun owners per capita—60 percent—of any state.

5. Kentucky

CCW/Open Carry: 8
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 48

Kentucky is a Shall-Issue CCW state with no permit needed for open carry, and its CCW law covers all deadly weapons—not just handguns. Kentucky has a Stand Your Ground law with no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity.

4. Utah

CCW/Open Carry: 8
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 48

Utah is very quietly a very pro-gun state. It is a Shall-Issue CCW state. Utah honors all CCW permits except Vermont, and you can get a non-resident CCW. Utah CCWs are recognized in 34 states. Utah is also a Stand Your Ground state with no restriction on location. Private sales are legal. In addition, 44 percent of residents are gun owners, placing Utah 14th in the nation in gun ownership.

3. Alaska

CCW/Open Carry: 10
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 8
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 48

Alaska is one of only a handful of states that do not require a permit to carry a handgun concealed. It has the second highest percentage of gun owners per capita—58 percent—of any state in the Union, and has no other restrictions on gun owners or ownership. Alaska has no specific Castle Doctrine law, which is the only reason it didn’t score a perfect 50.

2. Vermont

CCW/Open Carry: 10
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 9
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 49

Residents or visitors may carry open or concealed without a permit—the Vermont Constitution predates the U.S. Bill of Rights. There are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. Vermont has no specific laws about Castle Doctrine, which is the only reason Vermont didn’t score a perfect 50.

1. Arizona

CCW/Open Carry: 9
MSRs: 10
Class 3/NFA: 10
Castle Doctrine: 10
Miscellaneous: 10
TOTAL: 49

Arizona is the most recent “Constitutional Carry” state where no permit is required to carry a pistol openly or concealed. Anyone carrying concealed must inform law enforcement—the only reason for a less than perfect score—and has no restrictions on MSRs or Class 3/NFA weapon ownership beyond the federal laws. Arizona has a Stand Your Ground law.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; guncontrol; ownership; rankings; secondamendment; state

1 posted on 03/15/2013 3:31:38 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Interesting information. Thanks for posting.

It looks as thought the ammunition shortage is easing up a bit in WA State, still restricted to two boxes, but at least that is something.


2 posted on 03/15/2013 3:37:48 PM PDT by Eva
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To: LibWhacker

Vt and Pa are a surprise.


3 posted on 03/15/2013 3:43:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LibWhacker; humblegunner; Salamander; TheOldLady

(Ahem!)

Lookie where this plain ole flat state of Indiana places.

It may be “corny” in some respects, but if you’re away from the major urban areas (Gary/Hammond & Marion County/Indy) it does have some advantages.


4 posted on 03/15/2013 3:50:04 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Salamander

And! We don’t have one of those silly “helmet laws” either.


5 posted on 03/15/2013 3:51:58 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: LibWhacker
Very informative compilation. I’ll take these statistics into consideration when I decide on which state to move to next, although I’m limited to where my employer has a presence.
6 posted on 03/15/2013 3:53:04 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: LibWhacker

I live in MA. What can I say? It’s insane.


7 posted on 03/15/2013 3:53:18 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Eva

#7. Not bad. “May issue” is a concern, there was, I thought, legislation to enact “shall issue”. Need to do away with permits altogether. I don’t need a permit to exercise my Rights. Carrying concealed without permit is misdemeanor tho, so that’s cool. Screw ‘em really. Just pay the fine.

My absolute biggest concern, and this affects all States, is Gun Free School Zone. You’re carrying a firearm, any firearm, in your vehicle and pass within 1000 feet of school property, then you are a felon.

I had a conversation with the City prosecutor about this and he said I don’t know what I’m talking about. Well, I do. I told him I didn’t appreciate being a felon everytime I leave the house.


8 posted on 03/15/2013 3:54:14 PM PDT by saleman
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To: LibWhacker

“...Virginia is a Stand Your Ground state.”

I believe Va is NOT considered a ‘Stand Your Ground state’ but maybe it depends on definitions.


9 posted on 03/15/2013 3:54:52 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: LibWhacker

Don’t feel bad Californians.

The Brady Bunch still thinks you’re #1

http://www.bradycampaign.org/stategunlaws/


10 posted on 03/15/2013 3:54:57 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: trisham
I live in MA. What can I say? It’s insane.

You do know my heart goes out to you, right? ☺

11 posted on 03/15/2013 4:06:15 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: LibWhacker

Mississippi might move up after july 1st


12 posted on 03/15/2013 4:07:05 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

LOL! Hi, deo! So nice to see you. :)


13 posted on 03/15/2013 4:07:21 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nascarnation

Lol, God, I hate this state.


14 posted on 03/15/2013 4:09:41 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

PA is a surprise, as I believe we have more NRA members than any other state by far, and also believe that the number of gun owners here is extremely high, and higher than the article says. The Hamburg Cabela’s is the largest gun store in the entire world....that alone speaks volumes IMO. PA is a guns state. 20th? Hard to believe.


15 posted on 03/15/2013 4:10:04 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: LibWhacker

The criteria used to evaluate the States as far as friendly to gun ownership are absurd.

I simply do not see their correlation.


16 posted on 03/15/2013 4:11:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: LibWhacker

The sad part is that in the 60s and the early 70s, it truly was a wonderful place.

California (at least in my lifetime) has always been a bellwether for the US as a whole.

We’re just a decade or two behind ya.


17 posted on 03/15/2013 4:13:25 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: trisham

We ranked 23rd by these criteria, and I’d say that’s probably about right. Lot of good gun-rights laws, but still a long way to go. The fight for freedom is never-ending.


18 posted on 03/15/2013 4:15:12 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: saleman

The Democrats in WA love to pass unenforceable acts. They dont’ allow the sale of drugs near a school, either, but it is seldom enforced. They raided a house right across from a grade school a few years back, when they were confiscating houses and cars, and left the house because it was in the guy’s mother’s name.


19 posted on 03/15/2013 4:16:57 PM PDT by Eva
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To: LibWhacker

I looked at the writer’s bio and he is an expert pistol marksman. I am sure he knows that well.

He must be only talking about handguns. I still do not think the listings sounc credible.


20 posted on 03/15/2013 4:20:16 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: LibWhacker
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21 posted on 03/15/2013 4:23:52 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: mrsmith
I believe Va is NOT considered a ‘Stand Your Ground state’ but maybe it depends on definitions.

Yes, I think you are right. I don't know where Guns and Ammo got their info. I am a member of the Virginia Citizens Defense League and it is my understanding from them that they are working on a bill to have provisions for Stand Your Ground (Castle Doctrine, too) that is satisfactory to them.

22 posted on 03/15/2013 4:26:55 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: LibWhacker

I’m not sure I trust this listing. Arkansas is listed as worse than Missouri, yet Arkansans do NOT have to get a sheriff’s permission to buy a handgun as you do in MO.


23 posted on 03/15/2013 4:34:42 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: LibWhacker

Good Old Florida, at number 12. We have over a million Concealed Carry Permits issued at this time. No restrictions on Evil Black Rifles. The only problem is finding a place to shoot.


24 posted on 03/15/2013 4:36:23 PM PDT by EricT. (The Republican Party is a friend to conservatives the way Pakistan is an ally in the War On Terror.)
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To: shibumi

Indiana is a very nice state. I live in NE Illinois (not in Chicago or Cook County, but I work there), and if I were younger (I’m 62) I’d move to Indiana and accept the longer commute to work.

The ONLY reason I am in NE Illinois is because of my job.
In 3 years, though, we’ll be out of here and back in Louisiana.


25 posted on 03/15/2013 4:41:49 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: LibWhacker

In Arizona, as far as I know, one is not required to volunteer the information to law enforcement that one is carrying concealed. This was the case when I got my CCW permit quite a few years ago, but might have changed since then.

If asked by a police officer in the course of an official interaction, though, I would answer truthfully.


26 posted on 03/15/2013 4:51:04 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Texas Fossil
The criteria used to evaluate the States as far as friendly to gun ownership are absurd.

I simply do not see their correlation.

I agree. Oklahoma at #30 is outrageous.

27 posted on 03/15/2013 4:52:11 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: LibWhacker
Thank you for the very interesting information.

One criteria/element I would like to single out as arbitrary and probably wholly fictitious is “the percentage of gun owners” in each state.

Why would a gun owner or non-gun owner for that matter, freely volunteer their weapon status in any manner?
Inch, meet mile.

It has, can, and will certainly in the future - be used against them.

Assume 99% of the law abiding citizenry is armed with multiple weapons.
What is our elected government and their appointed minions going to do?
(Or is the better question - What will an unelected UN or NGO do?)
Initiate searches in all of our homes and properties without first obtaining a court ordered warrant based on probable crimes?

28 posted on 03/15/2013 4:54:19 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: SVTCobra03

Yep, OK is even ahead of Texas.

I think he is focused on Concealed Carry and Open Carry and handguns.

But if you look at the states who are the most free of government interference in their lives, this list makes no sense.

I spent 7 years in OK and loved it. Under the right circumstance would move back in a heartbeat. But Texas is home for my family. One of my ancestors was born in Texas during The Republic. More went GTT from AL during Reconstruction because they were burned out there for resisting the Carpet Bagger occupation. That left and indellible mark for 125 years. Until the 1970’s there was really no Republican Party in Texas. Now the GOP controls it, because Texas is not leftist.


29 posted on 03/15/2013 5:00:21 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Stillwaters

FYI ping


30 posted on 03/15/2013 5:02:40 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: LibWhacker

Isn’t there a problem with Vermont?

There is no permit required for concealed or open carry for residents, but this translates into the fact that a Vermont resident, who concealed carries, cannot do so in any other state since he does not possess a permit. No other state has reciprocity with Vermont.


31 posted on 03/15/2013 5:03:40 PM PDT by JohnG45
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To: LibWhacker
"For everybody who loves Repbulican Gov. Chris Christie, he has not even mentioned relaxing any of New Jersey’s gun laws."

He can't. The 'rats have the state Assembly and Senate. The only thing he can possibly do, which is unique among the big blue states right now, is (maybe) stop them from getting even worse. The 'rats don't have enough votes to override a veto.

32 posted on 03/15/2013 5:07:16 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: mylife

Yeah, PA is a very good gun state which you would not realize since Philly is in it.

I did have a few objections to the ratings. NV for example has an unpleasant CCW course and lousy reciprocity. AL doesn’t even have non discretionary CCW, but they gave it a pass anyway (with some rationalization).


33 posted on 03/15/2013 5:12:22 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: LibWhacker

You guys ever watch the show ‘Alaska State Troopers’? I see it once in a while when I can’t sleep...its hilarious that just about everyone that gets pulled over by the cops has multiple weapons on them and/or in their vehicle...

The other nite in particular a guy was drunk (not over the limit though), riding his ATV down a highway where its not allowed and the cops pull him over - ‘you got any weapons on you’ and the guys pulls out an enormous loaded 45 magnum from his pocket...the cop eventually lets him go, with his weapon and ammo, no ticket and just tells him ‘keep off of the road on your ATV’....pretty darn funny. What would have happened in your state with the exact same scenario?

I’d fit in in Alaska I think, but I can’t take the cold.


34 posted on 03/15/2013 5:17:18 PM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: LibWhacker

Let me give you a rating that is even more important; its called the Roofgoat Gun Rating.

This rating is based on how often you hear men and women training with their guns. I’m not talking about redneck shooting at all hours or shooting near homes to close.

I love the sound of gunfire from a distance during the day knowing all the guys around here on their ranches/land are honing their skills.

My little girl use to go to a private christian school which is out in the country. Picked her up one late spring day and before going in the school I heard auto fire. It was far away (sound travels in the country). What was funny was one of the teachers, an older women said “sounds like an automatic” as if she said she heard an owl. No fear or terror, just an accurate observation.


35 posted on 03/15/2013 5:29:52 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: Texas Fossil; All

I would certainly have rated them differently.

We could have made our own lists.

I think Arizona in #1 place is about right, but others could be moved about. Full disclosure: I live in Arizona.


36 posted on 03/15/2013 5:38:07 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: LibWhacker

I would rate Georgia quite a bit ahead of Florida and Alabama.

I am a native of Florida and have lived in Alabama and Georgia. It is far less trouble (and expense) to get your concealed carry in Georgia plus Florida has a really annoying 3 day wait to pick up your handgun.

I have never been denied a concealed permit in Alabama and it is inexpensive but it is totally up to the sheriff’s whim. When I got my first permit in Alabama the sheriff had been routinely denying them until the Sportsman’s Association told him they were going to get him defeated if he didn’t start issuing them. He then started issuing them.


37 posted on 03/15/2013 5:43:30 PM PDT by yarddog (Per Ardua Ad Alta.)
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To: yarddog

I might mention that I do not have a Florida CCW. I believe I would easily qualify but just do not want to pay the money. I do have one for Alabama but am not sure if it would be recognized by Florida or not.


38 posted on 03/15/2013 5:54:54 PM PDT by yarddog (Per Ardua Ad Alta.)
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To: LibWhacker
"Colorado is a Shall-Issue CCW state."

Some sheriffs exercise quite a bit of discretion concerning that. For example, have you ever seen any kind of therapist or counselor for any reason?

"There is a bill in the Colorado legislature to limit magazines to 15 rounds—among other things—so Magpul may be looking for a new home."

Other gun control bills are gone to the Governor's office for signing. He might be waiting for others before signing them all, including the bill for universal background checks amounting to forced registration of firearms. Ever been accused in writing of domestic violence?

"Denver has an assault weapons law, but otherwise citizens are unfettered."

Incorrect both ways.

"They have a Castle Doctrine law, allowing defense of home. In addition, 35 percent of residents are gun owners, placing Colorado 33rd in the nation."

Sure. A Coloradan can theoretically defend the inside of his or her dwelling. Have fun. Enjoy the cheerleading for tourism.


39 posted on 03/15/2013 5:58:58 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: LibWhacker

Colorado is tied with DC or worse, now


40 posted on 03/15/2013 6:03:49 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: marktwain

I traveled NM and AZ for many years. 14 years in NM, probably 9-10 years through South Eastern AZ (every other week).

I like the people in AZ. And the openess.

At one point I taveled 11 states and like all of them. West & Mid-West. God’s Country. And his people in most of the rural areas.

I carried a handgun in the car most of the time for 30 years. Never thought about it. Would not do that now, unless I had a valid CCW permit. I have been reluctant to put my name in that database. Not traveling now, so think invisibility makes more sense for me. The local police would give me not trouble anyways.


41 posted on 03/15/2013 6:40:55 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: LibWhacker

Compare Guns & Ammo to Duh Brady bunch scores.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/stateleg/scorecard/2011/2011_Brady_Campaign_State_Scorecard_Rankings.pdf

1 - UTAH 0
2 - ARIZONA 0
3 - ALASKA 0
4 - OKLAHOMA 2
5 - NORTH DAKOTA 2
6 - MONTANA 2
7 - LOUISIANA 2
8 - KENTUCKY 2
9 - IDAHO 2
10 - WISCONSIN 3
11 - FLORIDA 3
12 - WYOMING 4
13 - WEST VIRGINIA 4
14 - TEXAS 4
15 - SOUTH DAKOTA 4
16 - NEW MEXICO 4
17 - MISSOURI 4
18 - MISSISSIPPI 4
19 - KANSAS 4
20 - INDIANA 4
21 - ARKANSAS 4
22 - NEVADA 5
23 - NEBRASKA 5
24 - VERMONT 6
25 - NEW HAMPSHIRE 6
26 - OHIO 7
27 - MAINE 7
28 - IOWA 7
29 - TENNESSEE 8
30 - SOUTH CAROLINA 8
31 - GEORGIA 8
32 - VIRGINIA 12
33 - DELAWARE 13
34 - MINNESOTA 14
35 - ALABAMA 14
36 - WASHINGTON 15
37 - OREGON 15
38 - COLORADO 15
39 - NORTH CAROLINA 16
40 - MICHIGAN 25
41 - PENNSYLVANIA 26
42 - ILLINOIS 35
43 - RHODE ISLAND 44
44 - MARYLAND 45
45 - HAWAII 50
46 - CONNECTICUT 58
47 - NEW YORK 62
48 - MASSACHUSETTS 65
49 - NEW JERSEY 72
50 - CALIFORNIA 81


42 posted on 03/15/2013 7:00:20 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Arkansas is listed as worse than Missouri, yet Arkansans do NOT have to get a sheriff’s permission to buy a handgun as you do in MO.

Missouri did away with the Sheriff's Permit to purchase a hand gun about 10 years ago.

43 posted on 03/15/2013 7:01:42 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: LibWhacker

Two nights ago, I awoke with a vision. I took off my tin foil sleeping cap, and started thinking.

Most here know that back before the [first] Civil War, there was passed something called the “Fugitive Slave Act” that could be used to force the return of slaves from the “free states” to the “slave states”.

And in 1857, there was a famous Supreme Court case — the Dred Scott decision, in which Scott, a fugitive slave, was declared to have no rights under the Constitution [as were afforded to ordinary non-slave citizens], and was to be returned to his owner.

We know how the Dred Scott decision became one of the final “fuses” that triggered secession and what followed.

Told you that to tell you this:

Just as we saw the nation “divide” once before, we are again seeing a new divide. Of course, one of the most important issues is the Second Amendment. We are seeing some states — the blue, “new-slave” states — rush to abrogate the Second Amendment rights of those within. Most recent examples are New York and now Colorado. In at least some states, what was previously legal will become quite illegal. Perhaps some states will creep towards confiscation, certainly registration (in the sense that all AR-15 owners in NY state will now be required to either register or turn in their weapons).

On the other hand, we have “the free states” — the red states in which gun ownership (along with other traditional values) remain revered and protected. We’re even seeing moves in some states that would seek to nullify any new federal laws that attack the Second Amendment.

Well….
At some point, we are going to see an accused gun-law violater in a “new-slave” state flee across state lines into a “free state”, perhaps after an arrest and release on bail. This is almost certainly going to happen.

What will the “free state” law officials do then? Will they return the “fugitive gun owner”? Or, will they take him in and protect him, as they would do with their own citizens, maybe offer him “sanctuary” against the unconsitutional laws of the “new slave” state that is trying to persecute him?

I foresee at least one or two legal contests here.

But let me continue further:
If the Republicans lose the House in 2014, giving the democrats full control of the federal government, and if we continue to see “fugitive gun owners” crossing state lines to escape prosecution and persecution in the new-slave states, I expect that there will be a move in Congress to pass something called a “Fugitive Gun Owner Act”. This will mandate that the free states return all “fugitive gun owners” to their states of origin, so that they may be prosecuted under their home-state’s laws.

When this happens, I expect to see at least one fugitive gun owner raise a constitutional challenge — just as Dred Scott did back in 1857.

And I predict that the decision the Supreme Court hands down will become as monumental in our century, as was the Scott decision in his.

Should I put my tin foil hat back on, and go back to sleep?


44 posted on 03/15/2013 8:10:38 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: LibWhacker

Well done. Thanks for posting this info.


45 posted on 03/15/2013 9:38:06 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: EricT.
Good Old Florida, at number 12. We have over a million Concealed Carry Permits issued at this time. No restrictions on Evil Black Rifles. The only problem is finding a place to shoot.

We could probably move up a notch or two once we get rid of Janet Reno's ban on open carry.

46 posted on 03/15/2013 9:56:01 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: LibWhacker
No. 1 on the G&A list and a 0 rating from the Brady people. We still have room to improve by allowing guns on college campuses and a provision for arms at public assemblies but it doesn't get much better than this.

I hope that one of the things G&A considered under "Miscellaneous" was Arizona's great local preemption law. Localities here are not free to pass their own restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms. We're free everywhere.

47 posted on 03/16/2013 2:40:15 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: LibWhacker

I can make my own suppressor for my firearm in Alaska but it has to be stamped “Made in Alaska” and I cannot sell it outside the state. Very few people bother with registrations and there is a very lively private sales market everywhere, many people just set up a sign on a vacant lot or at a garage sale.

obama truly hates Alaska, and Sarah Palin obviously.

She is the baking soda to his battery acid.


48 posted on 03/16/2013 3:17:12 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: LibWhacker

Proud to see Kentucky ranked in the top 5 which is mostly the reason I quit trying to relocate to deeper southern states, one of which is way below mine in the rankings of freedom, ironically. Our taxes suck, but firearms freedoms reign. I once posted here not long ago....Kentuckians want guns and food stamps. Go figure.


49 posted on 03/16/2013 5:14:41 AM PDT by MachIV
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