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Rabid organ transplant kills Maryland man
bbc.co.uk ^ | 15 March 2013 | BBC

Posted on 03/16/2013 1:57:23 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

A man in the US state of Maryland has died of rabies, which he contracted from an infected kidney transplant more than a year ago, health officials say.

The early March death has led officials to treat three other patients who received organs from the same donor.

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) say doctors did not suspect rabies as the cause of death in the donor and did not test for it.

Typically no more than three cases of rabies are diagnosed in the US yearly.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: organtransplant; rabies

1 posted on 03/16/2013 1:57:23 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"Typically no more than three cases of rabies are diagnosed in the US yearly."

Does this mean rabies is rare or massively misdiagnosed?
2 posted on 03/16/2013 2:02:42 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Berlin_Freeper

OMG!


3 posted on 03/16/2013 2:35:13 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: clearcarbon
Does this mean rabies is rare or massively misdiagnosed?

Yes.

It does indeed mean that it is either 1) rare; or 2) massively misdiagnosed.

Regards,

4 posted on 03/16/2013 2:51:12 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I hope this doesn’t lead to a frivolous lawsuit. There is a limit to how much a physician can test transplant organs before the organs become unusable due to age and the cost becomes prohibitive. A lawsuit will simply make transplants harder to get and more expensive.


5 posted on 03/16/2013 3:16:12 AM PDT by Pollster1
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To: Pollster1

yes but with rabies they could have done the transplant before getting the test results, and treated them afterwards successfully if the tests came back positive.


6 posted on 03/16/2013 3:23:58 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Uh, Mr. Vice-President. Seems like there's uh, this teeny-weeny problem...


7 posted on 03/16/2013 3:30:51 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Secret Agent Man

And how many hundreds of other things are we going to test for?


8 posted on 03/16/2013 3:33:06 AM PDT by Pollster1
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To: clearcarbon
Does this mean rabies is rare or massively misdiagnosed?

It means the people we most often harvest organs from have facial tattoos, heroin addictions, and co-reside with rats.

9 posted on 03/16/2013 5:05:30 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

I would bet the donor came from Prince Georges County.


10 posted on 03/16/2013 5:19:23 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The article states it was over a year after the transplant.
I thought that rabies was curable only for the first 28 days, and after that it was irreversible.


11 posted on 03/16/2013 6:09:39 AM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: Verbosus
I would look at the supply chain...probably not a good idea to get your organs from homeless bums.....IMHO
12 posted on 03/16/2013 6:21:19 AM PDT by Youngman542012
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To: Venturer

It wasn’t me!


13 posted on 03/16/2013 6:23:09 AM PDT by NotSoFreeStater (If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice)
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To: NotSoFreeStater

Twenty years ago, I was temporarily working at our Consulate in Guadalajara. A woman in the office fell ill and after visiting several local doctors, nobody could identify her sickness. She was medevaced to Mexico City to see the Regional Medical Officer who was similarly stumped. She was then medevaced to an Army hospital in DC, even though she was a State Department civilian. She underwent an exhaustive series of tests there. Finally, she was diagnosed with typhoid fever. Nobody recognized it because none of the doctors had ever seen it. Once identified, they were able to cure her and then return her to duty, thank God.


14 posted on 03/16/2013 6:41:05 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Reeses

“It means the people we most often harvest organs from have facial tattoos, heroin addictions, and co-reside with rats.” Any link for that?


15 posted on 03/16/2013 6:48:10 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Pollster1

I have an even dumber question...

Why are we using organs from people who died of “unknown causes?”


16 posted on 03/16/2013 6:53:20 AM PDT by EBH ( American citizens do not negotiate with political terrorists.)
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To: Rannug
Any link for that?

Will Any Organ Do?

"What people have to understand is that donors now, except for the 75-year-olds who die of intracranial bleeds, are not part of the church choir."

17 posted on 03/16/2013 7:15:08 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

Again, “we most often harvest organs from have facial tattoos, heroin addictions, and co-reside with rats.” it is your statement. I just wonder how you can justify it.


18 posted on 03/16/2013 7:24:41 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Rannug

Alright, it was a bit of exaggeration but not too much. A heroine user with face tats is not long for this world and sick people facing death aren’t too picky, and neither are the people living off transplant work.


19 posted on 03/16/2013 7:38:18 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

I understand what you are saying, and you do make some good comments.


20 posted on 03/16/2013 7:44:08 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Pollster1

I agree with all that you said, but I am left wondering why they would even use organs from a person who had died of rabies.

Perhaps it would not be so confusing if such articles were not so poorly written.


21 posted on 03/16/2013 7:48:54 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Venturer

Actually, I think it says that the donor lived in Florida after moving from North Carolina.

Or were you making reference to the large ‘Rat population in PG?


22 posted on 03/16/2013 7:51:08 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Reeses

I signed up for organ donation to be shown on my license many, many years ago. Now, in my golden years, I have often wondered if there are any organs they would want. Can you tell me what the usual policy is?


23 posted on 03/16/2013 7:54:57 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Was the donor a Democrat?


24 posted on 03/16/2013 7:56:35 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: Bigg Red
From the article:

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) say doctors did not suspect rabies as the cause of death in the donor and did not test for it.

25 posted on 03/16/2013 7:59:30 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Reeses
Thanks for the link to that very eye-opening article. It seems many doctors choose not to inform their patients that the organ being offered to them is 'marginal' or 'extended criteria'. And then there is this "ethicist".

Her attitude worries Zink, the ethicist. ''I would question anyone's motivation in refusing an organ from a drug user,'' she told me. ''They aren't responding to clinical information, because the available clinical data'' -- the anecdotal reports from doctors -- ''indicates that organs from crack-cocaine users are fine, in general. So they must be responding to preconceptions about that person's lifestyle. That's only one small step from declining an organ because the donor is black or Hispanic.''
26 posted on 03/16/2013 8:11:16 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Bigg Red

In the article, they cited an organ donation from a 93 year old. So...


27 posted on 03/16/2013 8:58:31 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: Bigg Red

Or were you making reference to the large ‘Rat population in PG?

Exactly


28 posted on 03/16/2013 9:29:46 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Marie Antoinette

Okay, thanks. Skimmed too fast again, I suppose....


29 posted on 03/16/2013 10:02:06 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Squawk 8888

From the article:

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) say doctors did not suspect rabies as the cause of death in the donor and did not test for it.

&&&
I must not skim.
I must not skim.
I must not skim.


30 posted on 03/16/2013 10:04:03 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Ax

The husband of my physical therapist died of rabies.


31 posted on 03/16/2013 10:09:46 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The donor was in the U.S. Army. He died of from an undiagnosed condition.


32 posted on 03/16/2013 10:10:26 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: wintertime

I’ve heard that is very painful way to go. I was bitten by a dog while jogging in Buenos Aires. Since we couldn’t catch the hound, I had to undergo the anti rabies treatment. In 1988 one didn’t have to get the 14 injections in the stomach. I had to have ten injections, five in each hip. Thank God for injection ports.


33 posted on 03/16/2013 10:25:08 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Pollster1

I’m not advocating for hundreds of other things. And neither is anyone else here. You can over-exaggerate if you want, though.


34 posted on 03/16/2013 11:53:44 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


35 posted on 03/16/2013 8:27:29 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Ax

Imagine how stumped they will be if smallpox makes a comeback.

Does anybody seriously believe that we can eradicate a tiny virus from the whole great, worldwide world outside the various labs that have specimens?


36 posted on 03/16/2013 8:30:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Pollster1
Frivolous?

They knew the donor was being treated for rabies and they still used his organs? The morbidity/mortality committee must have been on vacation. It is insane to consider to use organs from someone who has been bitten by a rabid coon, is being treated for prevention. Res ipsi locitur.

37 posted on 03/16/2013 8:40:12 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (THA)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Frivolous? They knew the donor was being treated for rabies and they still used his organs? The morbidity/mortality committee must have been on vacation. It is insane to consider to use organs from someone who has been bitten by a rabid coon, is being treated for prevention. Res ipsi locitur.

Frivolous? Yes. According to CDC, "At the time of the donor’s death, rabies was not suspected as the cause and testing for rabies was not performed. Rabies was only recently confirmed as the cause of death after the current investigation began in Maryland."

Furandi est iniuriam, etiam cum legis peritis furetur.

38 posted on 03/17/2013 3:28:09 AM PDT by Pollster1
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To: Reeses

Wow scary article.


39 posted on 03/17/2013 3:37:31 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Did they say whose transplant program performed the procedure?


40 posted on 03/17/2013 3:43:57 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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