Skip to comments.Richard Dawkins tweets on abortion: ‘any fetus is less human than an adult pig’
Posted on 03/16/2013 3:59:36 AM PDT by IbJensen
March 15, 2013 (LiveActionNews.org) - It would seem the pro-life movement has acquired an unlikely supporter. On Wednesday, Richard Dawkins, a vocal proponent of atheism and the author of The God Delusion, posted a provocative tweet about abortion:
With respect to those meanings of "human" that are relevant to the morality of abortion, any fetus is less human than an adult pig.
Now, when Dawkins typed any fetus, he did not mean it. He was not thinking of dolphin fetuses or dog fetuses. What he really meant to say was this:
With respect to those meanings of human that are relevant to the morality of abortion, any human fetus is less human than an adult pig.
Of course, this is manifest nonsense. A human fetus is a human. A pig is not a human.
In the English language, the word human is a scientific term designating the species Homo sapiens. A human fetus is a member of the species Homo sapiens. A pig is not. Perhaps Dawkins has some private definition for the word human, but I am not privy to such information. Therefore, unless he reveals his secret dialect, I will have to assume he is merely speaking English and thus speaking nonsense.
In further tweets, he tried to explain what he really meant:
Human features relevant to the morality of abortion include ability to feel pain
The most important moral question in abortion debate is Can it feel pain?
Now, why would Dawkins identify the ability to feel pain as a human feature? The ability to feel pain is hardly unique to the species Homo sapiens.
Nevertheless, his view is clear: the morality of abortion is dependent upon the ability of the fetus to feel pain. This really is a strange argument. Is Dawkins suggesting that if one were to give a newborn baby anesthetics, thus removing her ability to feel pain, infanticide would be morally acceptable?
Ironically, Dawkins goes on to complain:
In the tweets following my pig / abortion opener, Im depressed by how many people jump clean over logic straight to gut emotion.
But this is precisely what Dawkins has done in identifying pain as the most important question in the abortion debate! The pain experienced by the victim rightly tugs at our heartstrings, but surely on any logical analysis, the murder of a conscious pig is less problematic than the murder of a sleeping human.
Furthermore, in many late-term abortions, the fetus does of course feel tremendous pain! Dawkins recognizes this:
Womans rights over her own body are extremely important. So is pain.
Unlike many pro-choice friends, I think fetal pain could outweigh womans right to control her own body.
So there you have it. The great champion of pop atheism is now publicly against late-term abortions. This puts him at odds with the pro-choice movement in general and the Obama administration in particular.
Unfortunately, Dr. Dawkins does not yet seem to realize his own pro-life leanings. He concluded his series of tweets with this confused message:
Bizarre responses to my tweets today. I clearly expressed my strong pro-abortion views & many people decided that I must be anti-abortion!
So it would seem that Dawkins is still rather deluded when it comes to the issue of abortion.
He sides with the flawed and phony philosopher, Peter Singer. Singer, an animal lover, claims that because human reason doesn't begin until about the age 6 or 7, that a child is not a human person. He made this argument to protect animals from slaughter, as they had no reasoning intellect. He believed that if we can kill pigs, then we can kill children before the age of 6.
The atheists have become tired of being ignored and are becoming more militant and they see the trouble that the militant homosexuals and their sycophants (chief sycophant being the phony, unqualified marxist president) are causing.
Amazing, rejecting science for a moral argument, when he claims to have based all on science. Same twisting of logic for homosexual marriage supporters.
Had Dawkins mother know her childs disabiliteys she would have aborted him.
How human is Dawkins vis-a-vis an adult pig and of what greater utility is he, in his own estimation?
I guess Dawkins is the practitioner of some weird, Eastern religion? One that doesn’t believe in concepts like DNA?
The religion of Darwinism teaches the belief that pigs and humans are relatives which share a common ancestor.
There is no religion of Darwinism. Your statement is ludicrous.
Darwinism is a religious belief that cannot be proved scientifically. Dawkins thinks that because human fetuses look kind of like pig fetuses, that proves that humans are related to pigs. It’s a primitive and fanatical belief system which does not tolerate any criticism of its dogma.
Is an adult dog or an adult pig more human?
Obvious to me that folks like Dawkins don’t feel pain ~
Alexander Tsiaras vs. Richard Dawkins. Who's the dumb one?
Dawkins aside, your Darwin statement is absolute balderdash. Drivelous nonsense
So a baby being carried by a black woman is less human than a pig, Richard?
That was so cool!
A basic course in Aristotelian logic wouldn't hurt.
I am not familiar with Dawkins, or what he is alledged to be a doctor of.
I have a problem with so many people actually listening to the ramblings of a fool.
This man obviously has the intelligence of a Oragutan, and probably the good looks.
Dawkins is evil. It is not enough for him to believe what he wants to believe, he has to be a rude, mean, bully to everyone else.
Dawkins is a microbiologist by trade...and was heralded as one of the great minds of microbiology with one of his publications early in his career. He is most famous now for his proselytizing of atheism.
An interesting note is that both he and Christopher Hitchens “reasoned” that abortion is the destruction of a human life.
One other point on Darwin: He developed his theory on the origin of species in a direct attempt to eliminate God from the equation of creation. He could not accept that his beloved father, who was an atheist, would be condemned to hell for eternity. In essence, Darwinism, as a theory, has a specific theological agenda which is to remove the possibility of a Creator of the universe.
Dawkins can’t get over the fact that Dr Who used his sonic screwdriver on his wife. (Lalla Ward was married to Tom Baker.)
Dawkin’s arrogance far outweighs his intelligence, and in his field, he is very bright. Unfortunately for him, his field is not philosophy! His arrogance was beyond measure, when explaining his declining of an invitation to debate William Lane Craig on the existence of God. The epitome of the stereotypical British ‘twit’!
There is a medical condition in which an individual lacks the ability to feel pain.
All that education - and not a lick of sense.
“Richard Dawkins tweets on abortion: any fetus is less human than an adult pig”
Any pig is more human than Richard Dawkins.
Who in the heck is Richard Dawkins? (Seriously, I have no idea.) And why is this writer giving him the attention he apparently craves by going into such a hissy fit?
He's quite a hero to the libertarian left because "he be talkin' some twoof to power". The fact that he is a moron isn't an issue.
It’s always fun when a jerk like this gets cancer and NO ONE gives such a dweeb any sympathy. They usually say, “Well, that’s the physical world we live in. You’re born then you die. See ya.”
I had the pleasure of doing that to a guy that was as bad as this jerk and when he went around telling people of his cancer in a vain attempt to get sympathy he got none. Zero. Zip. Nada. One person told him, “Well, I guess you’ll just be joining the rocks and dirt you claim we come from. He died without a soul next to him in the hospital. The funny thing, yes, cancer for that kind of lousy human is funny to me, I’m mean like that, was that his cancer was treatable. Ironically, he also denounced medical science as “witchcraft and voodoo”.
Human to them means self-awareness. But from an early age, the unborn human child is aware of his host, and iac, is profoundy affected by the environment she provides.
And wrong. A pigs dna produces a pig.
To Dawkins and his death cult, adult humans are no more than apes and human babies are pigs.
This is the root of socialized medicine in the West and Obamacare’s death panel which measures human life in terms of material value and uses that to justify harming the “valueless.”
The atheists have spread their “bio-ethics” to all of Western science.
Richard Dawkins is less than a tuberculosis bacterium and should be treated as such.