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Richard Dawkins tweets on abortion: ‘any fetus is less human than an adult pig’
Life Site News ^ | 3/15/2013 | Murray Vasser

Posted on 03/16/2013 3:59:36 AM PDT by IbJensen

March 15, 2013 (LiveActionNews.org) - It would seem the pro-life movement has acquired an unlikely supporter. On Wednesday, Richard Dawkins, a vocal proponent of atheism and the author of The God Delusion, posted a provocative tweet about abortion:

With respect to those meanings of "human" that are relevant to the morality of abortion, any fetus is less human than an adult pig.

Now, when Dawkins typed “any fetus,” he did not mean it. He was not thinking of dolphin fetuses or dog fetuses. What he really meant to say was this:

With respect to those meanings of “human” that are relevant to the morality of abortion, any human fetus is less human than an adult pig.

Of course, this is manifest nonsense. A human fetus is a human. A pig is not a human.

In the English language, the word “human” is a scientific term designating the species Homo sapiens. A human fetus is a member of the species Homo sapiens. A pig is not. Perhaps Dawkins has some private definition for the word “human,” but I am not privy to such information. Therefore, unless he reveals his secret dialect, I will have to assume he is merely speaking English – and thus speaking nonsense.

In further tweets, he tried to explain what he really meant:

“Human” features relevant to the morality of abortion include ability to feel pain…

The most important moral question in abortion debate is “Can it feel pain?”

Now, why would Dawkins identify the ability to feel pain as a “human” feature? The ability to feel pain is hardly unique to the species Homo sapiens.

Nevertheless, his view is clear: the morality of abortion is dependent upon the ability of the fetus to feel pain. This really is a strange argument. Is Dawkins suggesting that if one were to give a newborn baby anesthetics, thus removing her ability to feel pain, infanticide would be morally acceptable?

Ironically, Dawkins goes on to complain:

In the tweets following my pig / abortion opener, I’m depressed by how many people jump clean over logic straight to gut emotion.

But this is precisely what Dawkins has done in identifying pain as the “most important question in the abortion debate”! The pain experienced by the victim rightly tugs at our heartstrings, but surely on any logical analysis, the murder of a conscious pig is less problematic than the murder of a sleeping human.

Furthermore, in many late-term abortions, the fetus does of course feel tremendous pain! Dawkins recognizes this:

Woman’s rights over her own body are extremely important. So is pain.

Unlike many pro-choice friends, I think fetal pain could outweigh woman’s right to control her own body.

So there you have it. The great champion of pop atheism is now publicly against late-term abortions. This puts him at odds with the pro-choice movement in general and the Obama administration in particular.

Unfortunately, Dr. Dawkins does not yet seem to realize his own pro-life leanings. He concluded his series of tweets with this confused message:

Bizarre responses to my tweets today. I clearly expressed my strong pro-abortion views & many people decided that I must be anti-abortion!

So it would seem that Dawkins is still rather deluded when it comes to the issue of abortion.


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Dawkins is a cold chill across the nature of man who will never recognize the Soul is a gift from God & it separates us from pigs while we are still in the womb.

He sides with the flawed and phony philosopher, Peter Singer. Singer, an animal lover, claims that because human reason doesn't begin until about the age 6 or 7, that a child is not a human person. He made this argument to protect animals from slaughter, as they had no reasoning intellect. He believed that if we can kill pigs, then we can kill children before the age of 6.

The atheists have become tired of being ignored and are becoming more militant and they see the trouble that the militant homosexuals and their sycophants (chief sycophant being the phony, unqualified marxist president) are causing.

1 posted on 03/16/2013 3:59:36 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Amazing, rejecting science for a moral argument, when he claims to have based all on science. Same twisting of logic for homosexual marriage supporters.


2 posted on 03/16/2013 4:07:10 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: IbJensen

Had Dawkins mother know her childs disabiliteys she would have aborted him.


3 posted on 03/16/2013 4:12:18 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: IbJensen

How human is Dawkins vis-a-vis an adult pig and of what greater utility is he, in his own estimation?


4 posted on 03/16/2013 4:14:32 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: IbJensen

I guess Dawkins is the practitioner of some weird, Eastern religion? One that doesn’t believe in concepts like DNA?


5 posted on 03/16/2013 4:22:46 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: IbJensen
Obviously he needed some attention. He is trying to be provocative and feels left out so he wrote a stupid tweet and now people are paying attention to him. Reminds me of North Korea...anytime they are ignored, they make stupid comments and are talked about for weeks.
6 posted on 03/16/2013 4:23:52 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: IbJensen
No different than a pig? That would explain a lot, actually.


7 posted on 03/16/2013 4:24:08 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: IbJensen

The religion of Darwinism teaches the belief that pigs and humans are relatives which share a common ancestor.


8 posted on 03/16/2013 4:34:24 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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There is no religion of Darwinism. Your statement is ludicrous.


9 posted on 03/16/2013 4:39:38 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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Darwinism is a religious belief that cannot be proved scientifically. Dawkins thinks that because human fetuses look kind of like pig fetuses, that proves that humans are related to pigs. It’s a primitive and fanatical belief system which does not tolerate any criticism of its dogma.


10 posted on 03/16/2013 4:42:13 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: IbJensen

Is an adult dog or an adult pig more human?


11 posted on 03/16/2013 4:46:17 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: IbJensen

Obvious to me that folks like Dawkins don’t feel pain ~


12 posted on 03/16/2013 4:47:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: IbJensen
Conception to Birth: Visualized

Alexander Tsiaras vs. Richard Dawkins. Who's the dumb one?

13 posted on 03/16/2013 4:48:36 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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Dawkins aside, your Darwin statement is absolute balderdash. Drivelous nonsense


14 posted on 03/16/2013 4:50:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: IbJensen

So a baby being carried by a black woman is less human than a pig, Richard?


15 posted on 03/16/2013 4:50:55 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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Really? Which part is nonsense? That fact that Darwinists teach that pigs are related to human being, or the fact that it can't be proved scientifically?
16 posted on 03/16/2013 4:54:24 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Servant of the Cross

That was so cool!


17 posted on 03/16/2013 5:02:38 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: IbJensen
How can a pig be more human than a human, at any stage of development?

A basic course in Aristotelian logic wouldn't hurt.

18 posted on 03/16/2013 5:05:28 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: IbJensen

I am not familiar with Dawkins, or what he is alledged to be a doctor of.

I have a problem with so many people actually listening to the ramblings of a fool.

This man obviously has the intelligence of a Oragutan, and probably the good looks.


19 posted on 03/16/2013 5:08:58 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: IbJensen

Dawkins is evil. It is not enough for him to believe what he wants to believe, he has to be a rude, mean, bully to everyone else.


20 posted on 03/16/2013 5:36:20 AM PDT by magellan
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