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(Sheriff John) Cooke won’t enforce new state gun laws
Greeley Tribune ^ | 116 Mar 13 | Whitney Phillips

Posted on 03/16/2013 7:55:57 AM PDT by real saxophonist

Cooke won’t enforce new state gun laws

Weld County Sheriff John Cooke said he won’t enforce either gun-control measure waiting to be signed into law by Gov. John Hickenlooper, saying the laws are “unenforceable” and would “give a false sense of security.”

One bill passed Friday would expand requirements to have background checks for firearm purchases. Hickenlooper is expected to sign it into law within two weeks.

Earlier this week, Colorado lawmakers approved a 15-round limit on ammunition magazines. It also is awaiting the expected approval of the governor.

Cooke said Democratic lawmakers are uninformed but are scrambling in reaction to recent tragedies in the nation.

“They’re feel-good, knee-jerk reactions that are unenforceable,” he said.

Cooke said the bill requiring a $10 background check to legally transfer a gun would not keep firearms out of the hands of those who use them for violence.

“Criminals are still going to get their guns,” he said.

Cooke said the other bill would also technically ban all magazines because of a provision that outlaws any magazine that can be altered. He said all magazines can be altered to a higher capacity.

Cooke said he, like other county sheriffs, “won’t bother enforcing” the laws because it will be impossible for them to keep track of how the requirements are being met by gun owners. He said he and other sheriffs are considering a lawsuit against the state to block the measures if they are signed into law.

The vice president praised passage of the background check bill.

“Congrats to Colorado House and Senate for passing universal background checks,” read a tweet sent by the office of Vice President Joe Biden from his official @VP account.

It was followed by another tweet referring to the theater shooting that read, “The families of Aurora deserved a vote and got one. Now U.S. Congress must act too.”

Congress also is considering a number of new firearm restrictions.

Colorado is the first state outside the East Coast to significantly ratchet back gun rights after the theater and school shootings. Colorado’s gun debate was being watched closely because it’s considered a swing state with both a gun-loving frontier past and an unfortunate history of mass shootings, including the 1999 Columbine High School attack.

“Are we going to stop all criminals from getting guns? No,” said Democratic Rep. Beth McCann, a sponsor of the background checks bill. “But are we are going to put a barrier there, make it more difficult for them? Yes.”

The move to expand background checks would be one of the most sweeping responses by Colorado to the shootings last year in Aurora and at the elementary school in Newtown, Conn.

In Colorado, expanded checks have been a top priority for Hickenlooper, who called for the proposal during his State of the State address in January.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; communism; communists; coup; guncontrol; progressiveagenda; secondamendment

1 posted on 03/16/2013 7:55:57 AM PDT by real saxophonist
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To: real saxophonist
It feels more and more like 1860 in America. With touches of 1917 in Russia.


2 posted on 03/16/2013 8:02:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: real saxophonist

This reminds me of boot camp. One person screws up and everyone else must suffer along. Why? Well the theory was that the rest of the company would “take care” of the screw-up and get him to reform his ways. The end result of course is that your military units all learn to follow their instructions and orders to the letter.

Civilians on the other hand? Most are like cats; have you ever tried to herd cats?

End result Chaos and the blatant disregard for these laws and any others that are found to be non-nonsensical at best and Arbitrary and malicious at worse.


3 posted on 03/16/2013 8:05:11 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: real saxophonist

what is the state going to do, have a police man present at ever gun sale?

That is no more possible than having a police man present at the seen of every crime.


4 posted on 03/16/2013 8:07:02 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: real saxophonist

That’s all fine and dandy but where in the state...or Weld County...is a person supposed to buy a 30 round magazine? The dealers holding FFLs won’t stock or sell them. County Sheriff Cooke’s gesture would only affect person’s who already own them.


5 posted on 03/16/2013 8:07:10 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: The Working Man
"blatant disregard for these laws and any others that are found to be non-nonsensical at best and Arbitrary and malicious at worse"

Bammy doesn't follow the Constitution, no one else pays attention to that which they don't like or infringes.

6 posted on 03/16/2013 8:07:22 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: real saxophonist

Kind of like a staged opera. Everyone is taking a break at some point, to drink what they think is $10 a glass of fancy wine, but it’s just some watered down $2 mixer drink with a lot of sugar.

The curious point is this $10 background check. Who pays for the poor? You’d think the minorities would be the first out of the house to cry over the inhumanity of taking their precious dollars away. The comical side is that if you were buying some really cheap used gun from the gun shop for $50....you’d have to pay $10 just to complete universal background check.


7 posted on 03/16/2013 8:08:09 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: real saxophonist

Thisis the funnyiest line:

““Are we going to stop all criminals from getting guns? No,” said Democratic Rep. Beth McCann, a sponsor of the background checks bill. “But are we are going to put a barrier there, make it more difficult for them? Yes.””

Beth McCann is an idiot, criminals don’t get their guns from legal sales because legal sales can be traced to them. So no Beth your not making it 1 tiny bit harder for criminals to get guns.

Your just making it harder for law abiding citizens to get guns with-which to defend themselves from criminals.


8 posted on 03/16/2013 8:10:56 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: real saxophonist

***Earlier this week, Colorado lawmakers approved a 15-round limit on ammunition magazines.***

The hope is someone will rush a shooter when he changes magazines.

What if the shooter fires 14 rounds, drops the magazine and replaces it. If someone rushes the shooter there is still a round in the chamber that can be fired.

As for semi auto pistols, the same can be done with those without magazine disconnects, and disconnects on others can be removed.

Or they can use the old method of the Border Ruffians during the Civil War era, and that is to carry four or five pistols.

Gun control is not about SAFETY, it is about CONTROL.


9 posted on 03/16/2013 8:11:23 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for that, Matt. I dug the Culpepper Minutemen reference.


10 posted on 03/16/2013 8:12:40 AM PDT by real saxophonist (You can't take the sky from me)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Like a dry county, you head for the border! I’m sure Wyoming, Utah and Kansas will have signs going into Colorado,

LAST CHANCE! GUN MAGAZINES for SALE! 30 ROUNDS! 40 ROUNDS! CASH AND CARRY!


11 posted on 03/16/2013 8:16:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: real saxophonist
There can not be “universal background checks” without registration.

I will pass on registering anything.

12 posted on 03/16/2013 8:16:42 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Monorprise

Those two events are about to merge.


13 posted on 03/16/2013 8:16:52 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

“Bammy doesn’t follow the Constitution, no one else pays attention to that which they don’t like or infringes.”

I’m starting to wonder why should we? The left are quite astute as breaking and/or ignoring the laws they fight to pass & impose upon the rest of us.

Why should we be any different? To live in civil socisity? We already live in an increasingly uncivil-socisity thanks to the left. Maybe we should look into how we can safely take a page form their own book.


14 posted on 03/16/2013 8:17:18 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Travis McGee

Ping


15 posted on 03/16/2013 8:17:34 AM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: The Working Man
Very good post. Thanks.

Parris Island, Class of '89.

16 posted on 03/16/2013 8:19:03 AM PDT by real saxophonist (You can't take the sky from me)
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To: Monorprise

****““Are we going to stop all criminals from getting guns? No,” ...... “But are we are going to put a barrier there, make it more difficult for them? Yes.””****

But, that was done back in 1968!

“Today we begin to disarm the criminal and the careless and the insane. All of our people who are deeply concerned in this country about law and order should hail this day.

- Lyndon Johnson when he signed the 1968 GCA into law.


17 posted on 03/16/2013 8:19:16 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: The Working Man
Well the theory was that the rest of the company would “take care” of the screw-up and get him to reform his ways.

The end result is that if anything happens to him, everyone gets punished again. Yet the group punishment practice continues anyway out of habit, I assume.

18 posted on 03/16/2013 8:20:47 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Monorprise

-——Beth McCann is an idiot-——

Yes, but she is making a difference. That is all that matters. /s


19 posted on 03/16/2013 8:21:30 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

20 posted on 03/16/2013 8:22:58 AM PDT by real saxophonist (You can't take the sky from me)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I guess those that don’t learn from history are dammed to repeat it.

She make me making a difference but those that fight her should never let anyone particularly her constitutions know that the difference she makes is not against but in support of criminals.

Criminals are not hindered by the requirement of a background check.


21 posted on 03/16/2013 8:26:35 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: real saxophonist

love it!


22 posted on 03/16/2013 8:27:39 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: Monorprise

Exactly. If I go up to C Street here in Greality, find Javier, show him a $50 bill and say ‘Yo Quiero Fuego’, Do you really think he’s gonna say, ‘Oh, no, no, not without a background check.’


23 posted on 03/16/2013 8:33:54 AM PDT by real saxophonist (You can't take the sky from me)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

People who already own them aren’t affected by the law. The Sheriff is basically saying that he won’t bring charges against those who sell banned items (such as against that NY soldier). Though, I agree with you in rather doubting that a gun store in Weld county could get inventory and go right ahead and sell them.


24 posted on 03/16/2013 8:39:39 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

Hey Dr. Dan. Been a long time since the TRT days...


25 posted on 03/16/2013 8:43:13 AM PDT by real saxophonist (You can't take the sky from me)
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To: real saxophonist
Cooke said the bill requiring a $10 background check to legally transfer a gun would not keep firearms out of the hands of those who use them for violence.

I wonder how the leftist extremists would react to a $10 tax on every abortion.

26 posted on 03/16/2013 8:44:28 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Standing Wolf

That’s a good point.


27 posted on 03/16/2013 8:47:01 AM PDT by real saxophonist (You can't take the sky from me)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

BTW, those are really nice paintings. I’ve been a pen-and-ink guy, probably from doodling in school.


28 posted on 03/16/2013 9:11:23 AM PDT by real saxophonist (You can't take the sky from me)
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To: real saxophonist

Yes indeed. They might be again getting necessary.


29 posted on 03/16/2013 9:54:54 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

Methinks it might be so...


30 posted on 03/16/2013 9:59:25 AM PDT by real saxophonist (You can't take the sky from me)
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To: real saxophonist

Buying a gun should be as easy as voting. The same people who want no ID requirements to vote and even allow convicted felons to vote also want to restrict gun sales to law abiding citizens.


31 posted on 03/16/2013 10:18:15 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Monorprise
The Constitution represents the terms of our "consent to be governed." If it no longer binds the government, it no longer binds us. The Constitution has a two-fold purpose: to protect us against a tyrannical government, and to protect a legitimate government against us. If it's no longer in effect . . .
32 posted on 03/16/2013 10:52:33 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: The Working Man
The end result of course is that your military units all learn to follow their instructions and orders to the letter.

Well, that's the theory, anyway.

More often they learn how to cover up their screw ups until something really bad happens.

33 posted on 03/16/2013 10:52:39 AM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: JoeFromSidney

I agree but before you go to take on the usurper think first about how to do it successfully.

Without legitimate government there is but the realm of force and the appeals to the hearts of men. It is not enough to simply declare our allegiance the cause of liberty & constitutional law. We must work to find a way to restore and defend these critical objects of free civilization.

Until we have such a plan it would be wise not to throw out the advantages of subterfuge, infiltration, and surprise. It is more than likely if we are to bring this monster down we shall have to do so from with in.


34 posted on 03/16/2013 1:35:21 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: real saxophonist; Red Steel; RandallFlagg
Cooke said he, like other county sheriffs, “won’t bother enforcing” the laws because it will be impossible for them to keep track of how the requirements are being met by gun owners. He said he and other sheriffs are considering a lawsuit against the state to block the measures if they are signed into law.

Backlash is a comin'!

Sheriff Maketa releases statement regarding gun control stance

Historically, any citizen would be allowed to speak if they arrived at the Capitol early and signed up on testimony records. Although sign up sheets were in place and citizens including myself signed up, we were completely disregarded. Minutes after I signed up to testify, I learned a different process would be utilized and testimony was based on three categories: experts, preferred witnesses, and public witnesses. No explanation was provided to define expert or preferred witness. I was told this decision was made by the senate president and the chairperson of the hearing committee. Additionally, experts would have no time constraints and all others would be restricted to three minutes.

As I made my way out of the Capitol, I was shocked at the number of people who attended these hearings. It's estimated the number of people in attendance reached 1,000. I spoke to several and was told they just wanted their voice to be heard.

I am not sharing this because of the outcome of the hearings that day; rather I am sharing this because of the process implemented and the faces of all those citizens that were never permitted to participate in the process. Government is supposed to be by the people, for the people and on this day, they were crushed and kicked to the side. Special interest coalitions and hand picked experts with no relevant expertise trumped our citizens.

Shocking email: Dems threaten Colo. sheriffs’ salaries over gun control

Sheriff Terry Maketa to file charges against Colorado Democrat leadership

Recall effort begins; Petition aims to oust McLachlan (Anti-Gun Colorado Dem State Rep.)

coloradoaccountability.com Three recall efforts underway for Rep. McLachlan, Sen. Morse and Sen. Hudak.

Poll at the Denver Post on the proposed Magazine Ban.
Vast majority support repeal of mag ban.


35 posted on 03/16/2013 3:40:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye
Yep.

BTW, a very cute FedEx driver just brought me a package from Magpul.

This is my PMag. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

36 posted on 03/16/2013 4:05:39 PM PDT by real saxophonist (You can't take the sky from me)
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To: real saxophonist

LOL I’d be happy if my ugly ole UPS guy delivered me some SKS mags, but alas, there are nearly none to be had. At this time.


37 posted on 03/16/2013 4:28:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

The CO Dems have underestimated the resistance to their anti-constitutional laws. Now they are going to face the whirlwind of defeat in 2014 and recall elections.


38 posted on 03/16/2013 10:35:18 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Monorprise
I agree. But we need to recognize that we are without a Constitution, even if not yet "without rule of law." restoring the Constitution must be our lodestar, not revolution for the sake of revolution.
39 posted on 03/17/2013 4:29:42 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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