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Shock in Cyprus as bailout brings bank account haircut
ekathimerini.com ^ | Saturday March 16, 2013 (11:28)

Posted on 03/16/2013 8:04:24 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

The Eurogroup reached on Friday night an unprecedented decision for bailing out Cyprus that dictates a haircut on all bank accounts on the island’s banks with immediate effect, while cash withdrawals are not allowed for the time being, generating unrest.

Along with loans adding up to 10 billion euros from the European Support Mechanism, Cyprus will have to find another 7-7.5 billion euros from privatizations and from a 6.75 percent one-off haircut on all bank accounts with a balance up to 100,000 euros, rising to 9.9 percent on accounts exceeding 100,000 euros.

Already bank customers are gathering outside major and cooperative banks, Skai television reported on Saturday morning, as angry depositors demand their money.

Depositors will get shares of the banks they are clients of in return for the capital lost, of the same value as the haircut their accounts have suffered.

This is estimated to fetch some 6 billion euros to the state, bridging most of the gap between the 10 billion euros the ESM is offering to Cyprus and Nicosia’s requirements of an estimated 17 billion.

This is the first time in the eurozone that a levy has been imposed not on the interest of bank accounts but on the capital itself. In addition to that there is a levy on interest, too, and an increase in the 10 percent corporate tax that has been one of the main driving forces behind Cyprus’s financial progress after the 1974 Turkish invasion, generating growth by attracting foreign direct investment.

Notably, the account haircut does not affect bank accounts in Cypriot bank branches based in Greece, according to sources from the Greek Finance Ministry.

Tax on interest will amount to between 20 and 25 percent.

Changes will have to be ratified by the House of Representatives, the republic’s parliament within the weekend, while an emergency cabinet meeting is taking place on Saturday morning in Nicosia to assess the situation.

Finance Minister Michalis Sarris has postponed his official visit by two days and will now go to Moscow on Wednesday.

Cyprus state broadcaster CyBC reported on Saturday that German Finance Minister actually entered the Eurogroup meeting on Friday proposing a 40 percent haircut on Cypriot bank accounts. Sarris stated on Saturday that this had also been the proposal of the International Monetary Fund.

Sarris stated in Brussels that in view of the threat from the European Central Bank for banks in Cyprus to shut down and chaos to ensue, the increase in interest taxation and the haircut to bank accounts became necessary. “A disorderly default, that was a genuine possibility, has been averted,” he said.

“It allows our economy to proceed decisively to a new beginning.”

He also noted that after the dramatic meeting of the eurozone ministers a further slashing of salaries and pensions has been avoided and confidence in Cypriot economy is restored. He qualified the bailout funds loaned to Cyprus as sustainable and manageable and will not constitute an unbearable weight on the next generations. “It spreads the load on this and on the following generations,” he said.

IMF head Christine Lagarde said "the Fund has always said it would support a solution that is viable, and this agreement fulfills this condition, so my recommendation to our board will be for contributing in the funding of the package."

Opposition leader Antros Kyprianou, the General Secretary of leftist AKEL, accused the government of not consulting the other parties, saying that "the government bears full responsibility for developments in the economy as instead of choosing the road of consensus it has decided to go it alone."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; Israel; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: akel; antroskyprianou; christinelagarde; cyprus; cypruschaos; cyprusconfiscation; europeanunion; germany; greece; israel; michalissarris; russia; syria; turkey; unitedkingdom; waronterror

1 posted on 03/16/2013 8:04:24 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I’m remembering when the Hildebeeste suggested the gov’t take over personal 401(k) funds ...


2 posted on 03/16/2013 8:08:27 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
“A disorderly default, that was a genuine possibility, has been averted,”

For now.

3 posted on 03/16/2013 8:09:36 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Coming soon to the US.


4 posted on 03/16/2013 8:10:14 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: DeaconBenjamin

What is the response of depositors in Greece, Spain, and Italy?


5 posted on 03/16/2013 8:16:20 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: fatnotlazy

yep, saw this and was not surprised ... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2996500/posts


6 posted on 03/16/2013 8:30:13 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: proxy_user
What is the response of depositors in Greece, Spain, and Italy?

Heh. I expect they've already moved their deposits to Finland [at least, I would have].

7 posted on 03/16/2013 8:31:07 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. -Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Olog-hai; blam; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks DeaconBenjamin.
...cash withdrawals are not allowed for the time being... Along with loans adding up to 10 billion euros from the European Support Mechanism, Cyprus will have to find another 7-7.5 billion euros from privatizations and from a 6.75 percent one-off haircut on all bank accounts with a balance up to 100,000 euros, rising to 9.9 percent on accounts exceeding 100,000 euros... Depositors will get shares of the banks... in return for the capital lost... there is a levy on interest, too, and an increase in the 10 percent corporate tax... Tax on interest will amount to between 20 and 25 percent.
The writer split up these ideas instead of presenting them in a coherent manner.


8 posted on 03/16/2013 8:35:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Joseph Stalin did this too.

The government was short on money, and Uncle Joe called in the head of the national bank. “How much money is in all your accounts?” he asked. When he was told the answer, he said “OK, hand over one-third of it to the government by the end of the day.” Simple. Every depositor in the land lost 1/3 of his savings instantly.

I don’t think the Russian banking system has recovered to this day.


9 posted on 03/16/2013 8:45:23 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Creative approach. We could do away with the FDIC, and when a bank fails, just give the depositors shares of stock in exchange for the money that they had on deposit. Wonder how many shares of WaMu it would have taken to buy a loaf of bread.


10 posted on 03/16/2013 9:03:19 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Steely Tom

“...The government was short on money, and Uncle Joe called in the head of the national bank. “How much money is in all your accounts?” he asked. When he was told the answer, he said “OK, hand over one-third of it to the government by the end of the day.” Simple. Every depositor in the land lost 1/3 of his savings instantly....”

Communists disregard individual liberties and earned assets when it comes to their collective utopia as your post shows.
Communists are also all alike. The communists here in the USSA will do the same thing shortly. They will confiscate all private wealth to support the collective. Now you know why they want the guns. It’s not a criminal thing, it’s a control thing. They drape themselves in our flag while they stab us in the back every chance they get.


11 posted on 03/16/2013 9:08:25 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I love how the NYT characterizes it as a tax on the accounts, even though depositors are 'paid' in likely useless bank stock for the money. If that is a tax, it is a very interesting method of taxation, but then again, the NYT does have a very very hard time recognizing what a tax is.

As for depositors in Greece, Italy, Ireland, and Spain, might be an opportune moment to find alternative arrangements starting this instant for their finances that exclude any bank based in their nation. To me, this seems like a test run. Though...

European Union Economic and Monetary Commissioner Olli Rehn said there won’t be a repeat of the tax on bank deposits that was imposed as part of Cyprus’s aid program.

Asked whether a future EU-mandated bank levy can be categorically ruled out, Rehn said that “it can and there is no concrete case where it should be considered.” -- ekathimerini.com

The statement had to be said, of course, that this is a unique and special seizure of private funds for government public employee benefits debt. Just to prevent a run on the banks in other countries. I'd believe him, he is, of course, the same person who has said that haircuts on private deposits in banks will never happen. And that haircuts on government debt would set dangerous precedents that would be repeated.

12 posted on 03/16/2013 9:09:40 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin; All

I’m just curious as to whether anyone knows - is this affecting only the Greek part of the island or both parts?

Theoretically, Cyprus is united, but practically, there’s still a Greek half and a Turkish half. I was wondering as to whether this is affecting the folks on the Greek part of the island only, or both sectors?


13 posted on 03/16/2013 9:24:14 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Is this just cash deposits ?
What of brokerage accounts?
Privately held stock, bonds,,,
Gold coins buried in the back yard?
All the ships the Greeks own?


14 posted on 03/16/2013 9:49:46 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

wow


15 posted on 03/16/2013 10:09:09 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

Coming soon to America - all those mutual funds and 401Ks are going to be “adjusted”.


16 posted on 03/16/2013 10:12:05 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Steely Tom
Joseph Stalin did this too.

He did much worse - 100% haircut. The scenario was: he told every farmer to hand over all his land and lifestock to a cooperative in exchange for a job there or go to a penal servitude camp (without the belongings, of course).

17 posted on 03/16/2013 10:18:49 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: kingu
it is a very interesting method of taxation

The method has a long-known name - 'confiscation'. There is an item on the theme, which uses a proper vocabulary.

18 posted on 03/16/2013 10:28:57 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: kingu

“I love how the NYT characterizes it as a tax on the accounts”

Sound familiar everyone? Calling it a “Roberts.”

The 2014 coming as I have called it for years, begins the overt Extortion-Care, with global tapping in confiscation of the con recovery propaganda, by the MBS and global bond con securities,

CONs, all Anti-GlassSteagal CONS
CON-securities by cons.


19 posted on 03/16/2013 10:39:34 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: lgjhn23
Communists disregard individual liberties and earned assets when it comes to their collective utopia...

Since most of the depositors are probably communists too, and don't mind taking their "fair share" from the other guy, this is at least one way to make sure everyone has some skin in the game.

20 posted on 03/16/2013 10:46:35 AM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: seowulf

“Since most of the depositors are probably communists too, and don’t mind taking their “fair share” from the other guy, this is at least one way to make sure everyone has some skin in the game.”

Only if they’re 1. first in line with 2. already insulated assets.


21 posted on 03/16/2013 10:51:33 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Steely Tom
I don’t think the Russian banking system has recovered to this day.

Silly Russians. They deposit their money in Cyprus expecting the rule of law to govern the EU.

22 posted on 03/16/2013 10:51:51 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

This is going to have much bigger effect than people think.

Shake the confidence of depositors across europe, maybe take down the Euro itself.

And is Russia going to do nothing with the seizure of their huge oligarch money in this bank, I doubt it. This is not so different from Chavez “nationalizing” and seizing foreign investor money without compensation.

Guess the bond holders didn’t lose anything, they just went after the depositors


23 posted on 03/16/2013 10:53:37 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

“Guess the bond holders didnt lose anything, they just went after the depositors”

Right out of the former Gov. of N.J. playbook, and calling it a “Roberts.”

All con-securities, in a priced up communist protection global protection recovery propaganda con.


24 posted on 03/16/2013 11:02:01 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Depositors fear a default because they might lose their money.

How does the government removing all doubt help allay that fear?

They’re going to be happy that they theoretically didn’t lose as much as they would have lost otherwise? Complete conjecture.

Something tells me that there will be a next time, too, and far sooner having permitted this legalized theft than ever would be the case with the booms and busts of the business cycle.


25 posted on 03/16/2013 11:04:39 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: DeaconBenjamin
REPORT: Germany Told Cyprus They Could Tax Their Depositors, Or Leave The Eurozone
26 posted on 03/16/2013 11:06:51 AM PDT by blam
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Popcorn in the microwave. This will be fun. There will be a lot of PO’ed Russians.


27 posted on 03/16/2013 11:20:11 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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BTTT

FReepers aren’t paying enough attention to this.

Bankers and German politicians just stole 10% of your bank account balance.


28 posted on 03/16/2013 1:18:19 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: steve86

I guess they don’t think it could ever happen here.

IRAs, 401Ks, Cds, bank and savings accounts... MINUS TEN PERCENT In THE COVER OF NIGHT


29 posted on 03/16/2013 1:31:47 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: steve86

ATMs “out of order” for the weekend and holiday Monday.

Going to be a joyous holiday...if you’re a Euro banker.


30 posted on 03/16/2013 1:35:15 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: steve86

“...IRAs, 401Ks, Cds, bank and savings accounts... MINUS TEN PERCENT In THE COVER OF NIGHT...”

Stoke of a pen and it’s gone....just like that! It’s only a matter of time before they do it. They cannot sustain “their communist utopia” without it. And once they do it, the trust and integrity of the system will instantly vaporize, both domestically and internationally. The collapse will undoubtedly follow, especially when the Chinese call for their money.


31 posted on 03/16/2013 1:38:54 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: lgjhn23

The comments...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-16/europe-does-it-again-cyprus-depositor-haircut-bailout-turns-saver-panic-bank-runs-br


32 posted on 03/16/2013 1:42:18 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: steve86

As numerous comments allege...you know the cronies snuck their money out ahead of this.

If you’re an 81 year old grandmother with €371 in the bank...not so much.


33 posted on 03/16/2013 1:44:52 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Seems to me the best precaution to this would have been to never put your money in a bank, but to keep it in your mattress? Serious!


34 posted on 03/16/2013 1:49:00 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: steve86

Russians with substantial deposits in Cyprus — even if the money was there as some kind of evasion or safe harbor — aren’t going to take this lying down (unless shooting in the prone position).


35 posted on 03/16/2013 1:49:39 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: rawhide

Well, until the FBI burns your house down, yes.


36 posted on 03/16/2013 1:51:01 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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“Tax on interest will amount to between 20 and 25 percent.”


37 posted on 03/16/2013 2:00:08 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: steve86

“...As numerous comments allege...you know the cronies snuck their money out ahead of this....”

Rest assured, the commies definitely stick together. I suspect a lot of Russian money, along with the domestic elites’ money, was moved out the last couple of days before they did this. This is the kind of stuff that starts riots and revolutions. Doing it by inflation is sneakier, but outright theft like this has the potential to really enrage the “unwashed masses”.


38 posted on 03/16/2013 2:01:02 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: lgjhn23
Communists disregard individual liberties and earned assets when it comes to their collective utopia as your post shows.

"To each according to his needs....and you obviously don't need all that money."

39 posted on 03/16/2013 2:02:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: steve86

Maybe they think that because we have a two party system — Marxists and Socialists — this could never happen here LOL


40 posted on 03/16/2013 2:02:45 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: SkyDancer

“Already bank customers are gathering outside major and cooperative banks, Skai television reported on Saturday morning, as angry depositors demand their money.”

And with what? Disarmed 2nd. Amendment groups, at digital keystroke stations?

This confiscation will not end until the con-securities MBS and con-bond con-issuers, are faced direct in the full light of day.

Con-men


41 posted on 03/16/2013 2:25:44 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
As others on this thread have already pointed out, this will be coming to the US, too, particularly all those fat balances in 401k and other retirement accounts. For those that can, time is growing shorter to move their balances out of the US, and even then, the IRS will make your life miserable and pursue your accounts if they are sizable.
42 posted on 03/16/2013 3:07:39 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Cyprus and it’s government owned by Russian mob the way pre-Castro Cuba was owned by American organized crime.
Let them solve the problem.


43 posted on 03/16/2013 7:02:05 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: DeaconBenjamin

LOL, the scumbag Euro-socialists know no bounds!
(And coming soon, to Ubama’s America.)

The stock market should be interesting to follow on Monday.


44 posted on 03/16/2013 7:04:43 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Truth29
For those that can, time is growing shorter to move their balances out of the US, and even then, the IRS will make your life miserable and pursue your accounts if they are sizable.

The wise course would be to trickle it out in amounts less than $5,000(? - whatever is just below the IRS "flag" threshhold) and buy physical gold and fertile land.

45 posted on 03/16/2013 7:08:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: DeaconBenjamin

BTTT


46 posted on 03/17/2013 10:11:38 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I love it when spell check selects every single word in my post.)
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