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Russian Fundamentalists Sue US, Want Alaska Back
RIA Novosti ^ | Saturday, March 16, 2013 | RIA Novosti

Posted on 03/16/2013 11:06:46 PM PDT by Jyotishi

Moscow, March 16 (RIA Novosti) – US President Barack Obama must have known that his support of gay marriage would bring him trouble. But of all possible repercussions, a demand to roll back Alaska’s 1867 sale to the United States was one he was unlikely to have seen coming.

And yet that was the very claim that an ultraconservative religious group made in a Moscow arbitrage court, citing the need to protect fellow Christians from sin.

Obama’s alleged plans to legalize the “so-called same-sex marriage” threaten the freedom of religion of Alaska’s Orthodox Christians, who “would never accept sin for normal behavior,” the nongovernmental group Pchyolki (“Bees”) said.

“We see it as our duty to protect their right to freely practice their religion, which allows no tolerance to sin,” the group said in a statement on their website.

The Pchyolki also cited technical violations of the terms of the 1867 deal that saw Russia sell Alaska to the US government for $7.2 million, or 2 cents per acre. Payment was made by check and not golden coin as specified in the contract, the group said.

The lawsuit, filed in January but not reported by media until this week, was not processed because the Pchyolki failed to include a handful of mandatory papers, including documents to justify their claims, according to Moscow arbitrage court’s website. The group had until last week to provide the required paperwork, but failed to do so for reasons left unspecified.

Among the papers the group failed to file was also a notification to the defendant, the US government, which may account for it not having commented on the lawsuit so far.

The Pchyolki are a relatively obscure group created in 2008 to protect orphans’ rights in Russia, which it did by campaigning against sexual education in schools, among other things.

Their biggest claim to fame, until the Alaska lawsuit, was last year’s instruction for believers published after punk band Pussy Riot’s notorious performance in a Moscow church. The instruction on protecting places of worship from “blasphemers” advised to distract the offenders by spitting in their faces, ruin their recording equipment – if they have any – with holy water and detain them, with “bloodshed” deemed acceptable as long as it happens outside the church grounds.

The Russian Orthodox Church estimated its flock in Alaska at about 50,000 of the state’s total population of 730,000, the BBC said in 2010, adding that the faith was the main legacy of Russia’s 68-year-long rule over the northern territory.

Obama has often spoken in support of LGBT rights, including in his 2012 presidential address. But though he criticized bans on gay marriage imposed in various US states, he never voiced plans for a federal bill to legalize same-sex marriage.

Tags: gay marriage, Pchyolki (“Bees”), LGBT, Barack Obama, Alaska


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: alaska; gay; marriage; obama; russia

1 posted on 03/16/2013 11:06:46 PM PDT by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

Any chance we could give them California instead?


2 posted on 03/16/2013 11:08:44 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Jyotishi

This is known as the Moscow flim-flam.


3 posted on 03/16/2013 11:11:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: shibumi

He’ll give it back to them, no charge. Oh, and every citizen within its borders, too. And the oil.


4 posted on 03/16/2013 11:12:36 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: shibumi

Let them have Hawaii.


5 posted on 03/16/2013 11:17:16 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: wastedyears

“This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.” - Barack Hussein Obama to Dmitry Medvedev.


6 posted on 03/16/2013 11:17:31 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: shibumi

I would give them everything West of Arizona and South of Montaina.


7 posted on 03/16/2013 11:19:26 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Jyotishi

I’m just glad that I didn’t pursue that degree in Soviet studies that I was so hot to trot about in the 1980s.

Actually, I guess I would be pretty much where I am anyway.


8 posted on 03/16/2013 11:23:30 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Enterprise

Or rather Kenya


9 posted on 03/16/2013 11:28:34 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Jyotishi
Are you sure this isn't a Russian version of the Onion?
10 posted on 03/16/2013 11:37:00 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Robert357

I was curious myself so checked:

Russian International News Agency (RIA Novosti) is a state-owned and one of the largest news agencies in Russia.[1] RIA Novosti is headquartered in Moscow and operates about 80 bureaus internationally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIA_Novosti


11 posted on 03/16/2013 11:43:56 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

If I were a Russian ‘fundamentalist’, that’s what I’d be doing. But as an American ‘fundamentalist’ I say to hell with their plan, we already paid for Alaska.

Of course, 0bama is going to be head over heels in love with the plan of giving it back, so he can feel like he was a better international ‘fundamentalist’ than Jimmah Carter who gave over the Panama canal.


12 posted on 03/17/2013 12:03:44 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Jyotishi
"But of all possible repercussions, a demand to roll back Alaska’s 1867 sale to the United States was one he was unlikely to have seen coming."

Unless he suggested it himself. I wonder what he'll do with the refund money.
13 posted on 03/17/2013 12:04:23 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Jyotishi

If things get any worse under this president, Alaskans may just give themselves to Russia.


14 posted on 03/17/2013 12:14:05 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

> If things get any worse under this president, Alaskans may just give themselves to Russia.

“As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where - where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border.” — Governor Sarah Palin, September 24, 2008.


15 posted on 03/17/2013 12:22:16 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi; All
Too bad...we still got the cancelled check:


16 posted on 03/17/2013 3:45:50 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

I wonder what the current day market value for all of Alaska is if you account for all of it’s land, resources and GDP?
Any guesses?


17 posted on 03/17/2013 5:39:25 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: miliantnutcase

Back in the 80s, the Crimson Twins had a sum total in this GI Joe episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDaJTtBWalc


18 posted on 03/17/2013 5:43:09 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Jyotishi

A couple more years of Obama and the democRAT Senate, and Alaska might want Russia back!


19 posted on 03/17/2013 5:47:27 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: Jyotishi

Russian lawyers have to eat too

If there are no ambulances to chase in Siberia, let them go to Alaska


20 posted on 03/17/2013 5:48:13 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Kevmo

——we already paid———

However, the suit alleges the payment was not in gold and not as stipulated in the contract.

Payment is in question


21 posted on 03/17/2013 5:50:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: wally_bert

I loved that show as a kid!


22 posted on 03/17/2013 6:08:46 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: bert

Payment is in question
***Took them long enough to notice...


23 posted on 03/17/2013 6:11:16 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: ansel12

“I’m just glad that I didn’t pursue that degree in Soviet studies that I was so hot to trot about in the 1980s.”

If you had you most certainly would have been an expert in our current United States government.....


24 posted on 03/17/2013 6:26:39 AM PDT by kneehurts
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To: Jyotishi

“...golden coin as specified in the contract...”

Think they would accept a palladium trillion dollar coin?


25 posted on 03/17/2013 6:41:13 AM PDT by moovova
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To: kneehurts

if Russia purchased Alaska their tax rate would decrease. Would have never

As of 2012 tax in Russia is payable at the rate of 13% for an individual on most income. (non-residents 30%). Russian residents pay 9% on dividend income. (Deduction at source).
Non-residents pay 15% on dividend income.
Exemptions are granted to certain income earners.
The standard rate of Russia corporate profit tax in 2012 is 20%


26 posted on 03/17/2013 6:43:24 AM PDT by caltaxed
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To: Jyotishi

Nyet.


27 posted on 03/17/2013 7:18:07 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Jyotishi

It’s the agency Yuri Bezmenov worked for.


28 posted on 03/17/2013 7:47:39 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Jyotishi

Crazy nutters, them Russians.


29 posted on 03/17/2013 10:12:35 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Viennacon

Look at it this way....now everybody in Alaska will be able to see Russia from their house.


30 posted on 03/17/2013 10:14:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Timber Rattler

According to the article they wanted payment in golden coin, not check. (For everything else, there’s...).


31 posted on 03/17/2013 10:37:06 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Jyotishi.
...[Zero's] plans to legalize the "so-called same-sex marriage” threaten the freedom of religion of Alaska’s Orthodox Christians, who "would never accept sin for normal behavior,” the nongovernmental group Pchyolki (“Bees”) said.

32 posted on 03/17/2013 10:56:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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