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Obama phone advocates fight back, but call drops (rife with fraud?)
Bizpacreview ^ | 3/16/13 | Michael Dorstewitz

Posted on 03/17/2013 4:41:27 AM PDT by Libloather

After the Federal Communication Commission reported this week that 41 percent of those receiving free mobile phones don’t meet the requirements — some because they’re dead — the proponents of the so-called “Obama phone” program are firing back. But they still miss the point.

Ever since GOP Rep. Tim Griffin of Arkansas announced early this week that Lifeline, a free phone service for low-income families that costs taxpayers $2 billion a year, was rife with fraud, conservative lawmakers and pundits alike have jumped on the bandwagon to bash it.

The program’s supporters are now fighting back.

“Allow me to set the record straight,” said Mignon Clyburn, a Democratic member of the Federal Communications Commission according to The Hill. “Without this program, 15 million low-income families would literally be choosing between feeding their children or going without a dial tone that potentially could save their lives and put them on a better economic path.”

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KEYWORDS: bribe; fraud; obama; phone
a Democratic member of the Federal Communications Commission

Are there elections for those spots?

1 posted on 03/17/2013 4:41:27 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

15 million low-income families would literally be choosing between feeding their children or going without a dial tone that potentially could save their lives and put them on a better economic path.” crock of sh##


2 posted on 03/17/2013 4:46:49 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Libloather
“Without this program, 15 million low-income families would literally be choosing between feeding their children or going without a dial tone that potentially could save their lives and put them on a better economic path.”

We all make economic choices.

Perhaps some could choose between buying pot and buying a phone.

Perhaps some could choose between buying a 52 inch TV and buying a phone.

Perhaps some could choose between buying $500 tennis shoes and buying a phone.

Perhaps some could choose between having another illegitimate child and buying a phone.

I am sure that there are out there some people that literally can not afford a phone but I doubt that there are 15 million that could in no way pay for there own phone.

3 posted on 03/17/2013 4:54:40 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Libloather
“Without this program, 15 million low-income families would literally be choosing between feeding their children or going without a dial tone that potentially could save their lives and put them on a better economic path.”

ROFLMAO!

This idjit acts as if the $11 per month per phone is a make-it-or-break-it proposition for these people!

Does he NOT look at the pictures where they decorate themselves with expensive items such as tattoos, 'grilles' and false fingernails?

Oh.....I forgot-

they're Democrat, so common sense need not apply.

4 posted on 03/17/2013 4:56:44 AM PDT by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of Secession)
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To: Libloather

Whenever you hear, read “Allow me to set the record straight” or “Let me be clear” it is the obsufucation of the truth - in plain English it is a lead into another lie.


5 posted on 03/17/2013 4:58:13 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Pontiac

Time and economics have raced ahead leaving the Democrat largess peddlers in the dirt. You can buy serviceable cellphones for $5.00 AND buy call cards for $100 good for a year of service. If you don’t make any calls, and just keep them charged, your security is assured.


6 posted on 03/17/2013 4:58:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Libloather

why the hell should I have to pay for some leaches phone?


7 posted on 03/17/2013 4:59:15 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Pontiac

Or choosing between body piercing, tatoos, cigarettes....


8 posted on 03/17/2013 4:59:56 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Libloather

“Without this program, 15 million low-income families would literally be choosing between feeding their children or going without a dial tone that potentially could save their lives and put them on a better economic path.”

Meant to say, “WITH this program, 15 million low-income families are literally choosing TO SIT ON THEIR BUTT INSTEAD OF BEING RESPONSIBLE AND GETTING A JOB ON THEIR OWN WHILE NOT feeding their children FOR USING THE EXCUSE THAT going without a dial tone CAN potentially save their lives and put them on a better economic path.”

EXCUSE TO STAY LAZY!


9 posted on 03/17/2013 5:00:19 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Libloather
41 percent of those receiving free mobile phones don’t meet the requirements — some because they’re dead

IF dead doesn't prevent them from voting, why should it prevent them from having an OmabaPhone?

10 posted on 03/17/2013 5:11:14 AM PDT by Pollster1
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To: Libloather
Mignon Clyburn, a Democratic member of the Federal Communications Commission according to The Hill. “Without this program, 15 million low-income families would literally be choosing between feeding their children or going without a dial tone

Grammar isn't all that hard. The phrase would properly be "choosing between feeding their children and having a dial tone". The author was really saying that if they fed their children, they would go without a dial tone.

More seriously, they already have a free landline program, and most poor people live in the inner city where landlines are easy and cheap. SO they'd only be choosing convenience.

And most poor people don't feed their kids. They get free breakfast and lunch at school, and food stamps for dinner.

And my cell phone costs me $7.33 a month. It would be fifty cents cheaper if not for federal taxes. $20 every three months, if I limit my use to 73 minutes or less a month. No kid is starving because of $8 a month. I bet these people have TV sets that use almost that much in power a month. Which maybe they aren't paying for either.

And the funniest thing is a democrat would probably be happy that the government manages to only waste half the money -- for government, that is probably better than usual.

11 posted on 03/17/2013 5:13:11 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Libloather
“Allow me to set the record straight,” said Mignon Clyburn, a Democratic member of the Federal Communications Commission according to The Hill. “Without this program, 15 million low-income families would literally be choosing between feeding their children or going without a dial tone that potentially could save their lives and put them on a better economic path.”

Horse manure!!!!!

But if the socialists insist on giving free phones away, make sure that the phones can only dial 911..............

12 posted on 03/17/2013 5:18:40 AM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: Libloather
Are there elections for those spots?

Elections are superfluous, as James Clyburn's daughter is entitled to that spot.

13 posted on 03/17/2013 5:22:44 AM PDT by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: MamaTexan

What the proponents are really arguing for is cell phone provider / carrier’s best interests not the recipients.


14 posted on 03/17/2013 5:26:22 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: ronnie raygun

That is why there are Food Stamps or WIC or whatever. It is a LIE from the Democrats.


15 posted on 03/17/2013 5:28:27 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: ronnie raygun

Hard to deal drugs without a phone...Wonder if St. Trayvon’s phone was an Obama Phone.


16 posted on 03/17/2013 5:31:39 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: niteowl77

Here is an interesting fact. All cellphones will successfully dial 911 even if not registered to any carrier. It’s requried by law for the carrier to put those calls through. An old used cell phone is all these people truly.


17 posted on 03/17/2013 5:31:55 AM PDT by SoCal_Republican
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To: eeriegeno
make sure that the phones can only dial 911..............

And if its dialed because their Mcfries are cold, charge 'em for that.

18 posted on 03/17/2013 5:32:12 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: jsanders2001
What the proponents are really arguing for is cell phone provider / carrier’s best interests not the recipients.

Exactly. Phone contracts, defense contracts, carbon credits.......none of these are for anything other than enriching the Washington insiders and their political cronies.

19 posted on 03/17/2013 5:32:52 AM PDT by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of Secession)
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To: Libloather
What happens with the free phones is the service time gets used up and now that's all those phones can call UNLESS the user buys a new card, or signs a contract for service.

This is just a subsidized cell phone serice advertisement ploy for the cell service providers.

I can get better at Wal-Mart for less.

20 posted on 03/17/2013 5:43:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Joe Boucher
why the hell should I have to pay for some leaches phone?

Because some dirtbag POS socialist politicians and their perverted party has deemed it to be "fair".

21 posted on 03/17/2013 5:49:45 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Libloather

She is the daughter of United States Representative Jim Clyburn.

Thus,no elections are necessary. No non-relatives of Jim Clyburn need apply. A new AA dynasty takes shape!


22 posted on 03/17/2013 5:53:09 AM PDT by Postman (........................................................Flies get too little credit.)
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To: Pollster1
41 percent of those receiving free mobile phones don’t meet the requirements — some because they’re dead

If the dead make call on their Obamaphone, do roaming charges apply?

23 posted on 03/17/2013 5:53:39 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: ronnie raygun
15 million low-income families would literally be choosing between feeding their children or going without a dial tone

Or worse, their cigarettes.

24 posted on 03/17/2013 5:54:05 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Libloather

Yes, the General Election for President of the United States. Elections have consequences. Some elections have greater consequences than others.

Sure doesn’t look like much emergency safety net for nobamaphone users to be non-stop walking around Walmart on the phone just chatin “what yo doin gul? Ah nutin, just chillin in Walmarts”

If any common sense were at play in this nobamaphone thing, to give those 15 million “dialtone safety net”, why entitle them to 250 minutes a month? What about an Emergency Phone, that would only call 911 if the ComeYet actually had an emergency? The problem with an Emergency Phone is that some cell phone company big fat nobama supporter won’t be able to scam Billions of nobama’s stash.


25 posted on 03/17/2013 6:02:57 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: Joe Boucher

why the hell should I have to pay for some leaches phone?

Because they vote DEM!


26 posted on 03/17/2013 6:05:59 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: Libloather
A post of mine on this subject from a week ago:FWIW, the woman I wrote about is 27 years old. She had her first kid at age 12. And she's not one of Holder's people. She's the pluperfect example of a taker.
27 posted on 03/17/2013 6:08:14 AM PDT by upchuck (Free Republic: faster than a speeding bullet!)
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To: Joe Boucher
Re post 7: Because the leach has the same number of votes that you do, maybe even more.

The leach voted themselves some of your money. Isn't democracy great?

28 posted on 03/17/2013 6:10:25 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Libloather
a Democratic member of the Federal Communications Commission

Are there elections for those spots?

No, they (political class) appoint cronies and relatives to the FCC.

I.E. Mignon Clyburn, who followed her father (Congressman James Clyburn) to a State of South Carolina lucrative state government position when her father was Human Affairs Commisioner, was appointed FCC Commisioner @ $170k per year. Colon Powell's son "served" as commisioner when he was in Bush administration. Appointments are political and are not based on merit. Stinks to high heaven.

29 posted on 03/17/2013 6:18:04 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Libloather

:: Mignon Clyburn, a Democratic member of the Federal Communications Commission ::

Heh, heh, heh. Her momma named her have a slab of beef tenderloin!


30 posted on 03/17/2013 6:31:02 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Libloather
choosing between feeding their children or going without a dial tone

They feed their children with food stamps that we also pay for. One has nothing to do with the other.

31 posted on 03/17/2013 7:05:29 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: Libloather

1) I guess the parents gambled successfully that a kid named Filet Mignon would eat well at the public trough.
2) Filet is too (willfully) dense to understand that when 41% of a welfare program’s resources are stolen, the intended beneficiaries lose. The cheats are stealing from “the hungry children”, not just those taxed to pay for the handouts. Apparently he has an interest in continuing the fraud.
3) Without free cell phones, how could the Obama Campaign/Organizing for America coordinate voter fraud and gin up fake support for deficit spending?
4) Please write your Congressional reps today, to ask what they will do to stop this entire corrupt, off-the-books, redistribution-of-income program.


32 posted on 03/17/2013 7:22:01 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Libloather

1) I guess the parents gambled successfully that a kid named Filet Mignon would eat well at the public trough.
2) Filet is too (willfully) dense to understand that when 41% of a welfare program’s resources are stolen, the intended beneficiaries lose. The cheats are stealing from “the hungry children”, not just those taxed to pay for the handouts. Apparently he has an interest in continuing the fraud.
3) Without free cell phones, how could the Obama Campaign/Organizing for America coordinate voter fraud and gin up fake support for deficit spending?
4) Please write your Congressional reps today, to ask what they will do to stop this entire corrupt, off-the-books, redistribution-of-income program.


33 posted on 03/17/2013 7:26:04 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: ronnie raygun

From 1901 until 1956 our families did without a phone. We made it ok.

Now it is an “essential” like air and TV?


34 posted on 03/17/2013 7:34:16 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: Libloather
“Without this program, 15 million low-income families would literally be choosing between feeding their children or going without a dial tone that potentially could save their lives and put them on a better economic path.”

The same old liberal argument. "Without this property tax increase, the town would literally be choosing between having a fire department or going without teachers at the middle school."

Because there's never anywhere else to cut, don'tcha know. It is a perpetual "crisis point".
35 posted on 03/17/2013 7:42:01 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: jsanders2001

“What the proponents are really arguing for is cell phone provider / carrier’s best interests not the recipients.”

Absolutely spot on. The real proponents of these plans are the cell phone providers. They get more customers and everyone else pays.

So, blame the cell phone providers. They lobbied congress to get this passed.


36 posted on 03/17/2013 7:42:11 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Joe Boucher
why the hell should I have to pay for some leaches phone?

Think of them as parole tracking devices. Many a crime has been brought to justice because the Obama voter carried a cell phone.

37 posted on 03/17/2013 7:42:33 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

Any cell phone with a charged battery will connect to 911!
Service does not have to be iniated!


38 posted on 03/17/2013 7:55:38 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Mignon means “cute”


39 posted on 03/17/2013 8:14:39 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: MamaTexan
This idjit acts as if the $11 per month per phone is a make-it-or-break-it proposition for these people!

It's amazing how we all survived when phones were tied to walls and we had to use other means to make a call when not next to the wall. I'd wager that more of them use the phones to call their drug dealer than to save their life or better their economic status (unless they deal drugs too...).

40 posted on 03/17/2013 9:11:06 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: hondact200
"Whenever you hear, read “Allow me to set the record straight” or “Let me be clear” it is the obsufucation of the truth - in plain English it is a lead into another lie."

I surely hope you don't mean that comprehensively. Watch the following video from youtube from 24:34 on and tell me if you still agree with your assertion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY

41 posted on 03/17/2013 9:40:51 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly (Dim Logic: "Let me vote Democrat. Hey, I got screwed! Let me vote Democrat. Hey, I got screwed!")
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