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Washington Post blasts Dems Budget (Hell Freezes Over)
Townhall.com ^ | March 17, 2013 | Bob Beauprez

Posted on 03/17/2013 11:32:26 AM PDT by Kaslin

"In short, this document gives voters no reason to believe that Democrats have a viable plan for — or even a responsible public assessment of — the country’s long-term fiscal predicament."

Washington Post Editorial, March 14, 2013

Somebody must have realigned the planets.  That's the only explanation I can fathom for the harsh criticism the editors of the Washington Post unloaded on the Senate Democrats newly released budget.  The first budget Harry Reid & Co. has even bothered to introduce in four years, in case anyone is still keeping score.

The WaPo editors took some jabs at the House GOP's budget, as expected.  But, the dissing of the Dems is nearly unprecedented.

The editors establish the foundation for their criticisms by citing a Feb. 28 analysis by William Gale and Alan Auerbach of the left-leaning Brookings Institute, as follows:

There has been halting but real deficit reduction progress in recent months. The United States faces no imminent budget “crisis.” Nevertheless, the economists write, “the 10-year budget outlook remains tenuous.” Even assuming steady economic growth, the national debt in 2023 will be twice as high as its historical average, as a percentage of the economy — and poised to resume rising. That long-term fiscal problem, driven by the growth of entitlement programs for an aging population, remains unaddressed. Dealing with it, Messrs. Gale and Auerbach write, will take tax and spending changes “several times the size of those adopted under the recent legislation.”

Thereafter, the editors unload:

Except for the part about no imminent crisis, the Senate Democratic budget recognizes none of this. Partisan in tone and complacent in substance, it scores points against the Republicans and reassures the party’s liberal base — but deepens these senators’ commitment to an unsustainable policy agenda….

It is on the issue of entitlements that the Democrats’ document really disappoints. There is literally nothing — not a word — suggestive of trimming Social Security, whether through greater means-testing, a more realistic inflation adjustment or reforming disability benefits. The document’s fuzzy call for $275 billion in “health savings” is $125 billion less than the number President Obama has floated.

As for the coming flow of baby boomers into Medicare, the Democrats declare that “new retirees deserve the same promise of quality, affordable health care from which their parents have benefitted — and it is the position of the Senate Budget that they ought to get it.” There’s plenty of excoriation for the GOP “premium support” plan. But there’s no explanation of how the Democrats would pay for their “promise” — nary a hint of the many cost-saving reforms that would extend Medicare’s life without embracing the GOP plan.

In short, this document gives voters no reason to believe that Democrats have a viable plan for — or even a responsible public assessment of — the country’s long-term fiscal predicament.


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1 posted on 03/17/2013 11:32:26 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Bump!

Bring back US jobs. Now.


2 posted on 03/17/2013 11:33:59 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Right on


3 posted on 03/17/2013 11:35:06 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Democrats are starting to realize that Obama’s scorched earth policies will destroy their half of America too. The LIVs are too stupid to see it (and are fully invested in bringing everyone down to their level), but the ones with 3 digit IQs are beginning to wake up.


4 posted on 03/17/2013 11:39:25 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

It’s not just Democrats exporting US jobs.

Bring back US jobs, which both parties have exported now for almost three decades.

Now.


5 posted on 03/17/2013 11:46:09 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Bryanw92
YES, WHY INDEED !

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6 posted on 03/17/2013 11:46:14 AM PDT by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: Kaslin

It’s time for the people living in this country to stop thinking about themselves ALL OF THE TIME and start thinking about the future of America. Our children, grandchildren and their grandchildren are in deep Kimchi if we don’t do something quick. This so called government is out of control.


7 posted on 03/17/2013 11:46:43 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Whatever happened to the land of the free, home of the brave?)
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To: Bryanw92

8 posted on 03/17/2013 11:49:15 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Kaslin

Proven: the two dozen howler monkeys in the washroom of the WaPo, banging away 24/7 on typewriters have finally produced a piece worthy of print!


9 posted on 03/17/2013 11:49:25 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Kaslin.
In short, this document gives voters no reason to believe that Democrats have a viable plan for -- or even a responsible public assessment of -- the country's long-term fiscal predicament.
It's code for, "see, we finally have what we've wanted!!!" Partisan Media Shills alert.


10 posted on 03/17/2013 11:50:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Kaslin

11 posted on 03/17/2013 11:52:36 AM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Bring back US jobs. Now.”

The jobs are gone. If Obama has his way, the petrochemical industry will be gone.

Until the EPA, Transportation, HHS, Homeland Security, Energy, NLRB, FDA and many, many other government agencies are shut down nothing is going to get better.

IMO if the House does bring up the bill on Obamacare again and keeps it in the CR and allows the amnesty bill to go through, you can forget ever having a Republican majority in the House in 2014.


12 posted on 03/17/2013 11:57:02 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

So we need to bring back US jobs, now.

I’m serious.

Bring back US jobs.


13 posted on 03/17/2013 11:58:32 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Bryanw92

You can’t expect the libs to see it with their pea-sized brains and their head stuck up their derriere


14 posted on 03/17/2013 12:00:01 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: SunkenCiv

You’re welcome


15 posted on 03/17/2013 12:01:04 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

This kind of crap annoys the hell out of me.

The Dems did have a budget the past 4 years, how do you think the government operated during that time - it certainly wasn’t under Ryan’s budgets. Yes, they had a budget, but no, they didn’t put it out for all to see months ahead - they just waited until it needed to be passed, and then it was passed.

And those budgets had deficits on the order of $1.5T each year...and maybe they missed that also?


16 posted on 03/17/2013 12:03:58 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BobL

They passed budgets? Interesting.


17 posted on 03/17/2013 12:08:00 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Grams A

“Until the EPA, Transportation, HHS, Homeland Security, Energy, NLRB, FDA and many, many other government agencies are shut down nothing is going to get better.”

Actually outlawing labor unions would almost do as much as everything up there.

In any case, nothing is going to get shut down (except NLRB, and that’s only if unions are outlawed). Like it or not, a LOT of what you listed is needed - go to Shanghai and try to breathe if you don’t believe me. But the excesses from these agencies have to be stopped, PRONTO!!!


18 posted on 03/17/2013 12:09:55 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: shelterguy

“They passed budgets? Interesting.”

Yep, as far as I know, the government was running, so money was budgeted by Congress for spending by the Executive.


19 posted on 03/17/2013 12:11:24 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

>>

>>It’s not just Democrats exporting US jobs.

>>Bring back US jobs, which both parties have exported now for almost three decades.

I agree. It isn’t the Dems who are shipping our jobs overseas for a quick bounce in stock prices and then bitching about unemployment. The Dems have let the GOP help them dig America’s grave for decades and now they’re all getting ready to shove the working people into it. Its all about the New World Order for them.

That’s why I said that some Dems are starting to wake up. They’ve just figured out that there isn’t much advantage in being a Block Warden for the regime when the whole block gets “relocated” to find “work”.


20 posted on 03/17/2013 12:17:43 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Kaslin
The document’s fuzzy call for $275 billion in “health savings” is $125 billion less than the number President Obama has floated.

Them death panels better be more than warmed up...

21 posted on 03/17/2013 12:17:55 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“It’s time for the people living in this country to stop thinking about themselves ALL OF THE TIME and start thinking about the future of America.”

Therein lies the problem. Liberals have created a culture of narcissism, selfishness, and “I, Me, Mine.” A nation such as this is doomed without divine intervention.


22 posted on 03/17/2013 12:24:11 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Now you’re talking.


23 posted on 03/17/2013 12:25:59 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Grams A

The Washingtonians from both parties intend to steal everything not nailed down from those outside DC and then bug out under military protection when the collapse comes and the riots start.

An electorate that elected Clinton and Obama twice and gave algore the popular vote is no different than the Venezuelans and Cubans electing Chavez and Castro; stupid and dangerous.

It’s all over but the shouting for the 1st American Republic, it is predictably self destructing due to the imposition of Universal Suffrage.

Honest Ape mortally wounded the Republic when he brutally attacked and murdered the sons of the Founders, the last 150 years have been merely death rattle.


24 posted on 03/17/2013 12:30:45 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: atc23

“Proven: the two dozen howler monkeys in the washroom of the WaPo, banging away 24/7 on typewriters have finally produced a piece worthy of print!”

“to be, or not to be. That is the Gazornenplast.”

(Old Bob Newhart routine)


25 posted on 03/17/2013 12:33:05 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Kaslin

This is why the Dems chose to find the biggest idiot in the Senate to bring it foward. You know Patty Murray does not know whats in it cause she can’t read it.


26 posted on 03/17/2013 12:59:38 PM PDT by Starstruck (I need a 30 round magazine because liberal whine gives me a buzz.)
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To: BobL
Yep, as far as I know, the government was running, so money was budgeted by Congress for spending by the Executive.

No, there has been no budget since 2009. There have been just a series of "stop gap" appropriations bills.

27 posted on 03/17/2013 1:25:44 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

We don’t need to make ‘quick’ decisions - that’s something every two bit dictator in the world does... we need to make responsible decisions - using ‘our ways’. Our ways? The ways put out in the Constitution...


28 posted on 03/17/2013 2:11:48 PM PDT by GOPJ (DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil...)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe the boys at the Washington Post have decided to put out a newspaper - NOT an in-house rag for Democrats... Stranger things have happened.


29 posted on 03/17/2013 2:15:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil...)
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To: BobL

We’ve been under Continuing Resolution status...no budgets
since the Kenyan/Reid/Pelosi circus took over.


30 posted on 03/17/2013 2:45:28 PM PDT by Fireone (Impeach and imprison, NOW! Treason and murder are still crimes.)
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To: BobL

Like it or not, a LOT of what you listed is needed...”

Compare government agencies to a once wonderful tree in your yard that all of a sudden became so big its roots were growing so fast and becoming so large that it was threatening all the surrounding structures. So you decided to remove the tree. But you replaced it with a much smaller, manageable one.

There is no reining in of the government. It has become too large to control. So portions of it need to be ended and then reconstructed on a much smaller plane so that it truly meets the needs of the people it is to serve.


31 posted on 03/17/2013 2:48:11 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Fireone; justlurking

Tell you what, then. You delete this article from Wikipedia, since you’re convinced it’s bogus...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget

Let me know when you’re done and we’ll see how long it stays down. We’ll see who’s right.


32 posted on 03/17/2013 2:50:31 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Grams A

I can’t argue that...you’re not saying that the all the functions have to go, but rather the structure has to be uprooted, destroyed, and then rebuilt.

Now we just have to convince 329,999,998 others of that...not easy, but is there any choice?


33 posted on 03/17/2013 3:02:01 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Kaslin
This OpEd applauds everything in Murray's budget - including its spending, ridiculous tax increases and presumably the continuation of social welfare programs - except SSI and Medicare benefits for retirees.

BTW this is how the left will deal with the budget - simply cut off seniors. They're indicative of the old white majority and, being familiar with a freer America, they tend to vote republican. Its a win win for them.

34 posted on 03/17/2013 3:30:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: BobL; Fireone
Let me know when you’re done and we’ll see how long it stays down. We’ll see who’s right.

Bob, when you are done patting yourself on the back, read the article more closely.

You might be surprised to find that the 2010 fiscal year budget was submitted and passed in 2009.

Have a nice day.

35 posted on 03/17/2013 3:50:47 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: justlurking

“You might be surprised to find that the 2010 fiscal year budget was submitted and passed in 2009.”

Thanks, that was how I thought it was supposed to be done. Generally the budget for the next year takes effect Oct. 1 of the given year, and would be submitted about 8 months prior. So the 2010 budget would be submitted early in 2009.

Makes sense now, thanks again.


36 posted on 03/17/2013 4:24:27 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Bring back US jobs. Now.

Yep!
Smashing the unions, lowering individual taxes, eliminating corporation taxes, defunding (or disbanding) the scumbag EPA, and decimating the rest of the bureaucracies that regulate businesses into oblivion is the only way to go!

Bring jobs back to America NOW!

37 posted on 03/17/2013 4:36:27 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Starstruck

Patty Murray is more stupid than Barbara Boxer?
I didn’t think such a thing was possible.


38 posted on 03/17/2013 4:45:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“...we need to bring back US jobs...”

Who is “we”? You could start a company tomorrow and create some jobs but will you? Do you have any idea what it takes to create a job in this country? If you did you would not be quite so glib.


39 posted on 03/17/2013 4:47:49 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: BobL

I quit reading all liberal blogs several years ago but this morning I did read some of the comments posted on articles dealing with Sarah’s CPAC speech and particularly responding to her zingers against BO.

Quickly realized why I quit reading them. There seemed to be an underlying theme to all of them: Life may not be quite as good as it was but there is slow and steady progress under BO rather than the erratic times and wild spending under GW; the housing market is being revitalized; there is more welfare in populace areas because there are more people; the stock market is surging; more high school students will now be able to attend college; finally everyone will have healthcare; women are now being paid on a scale equal to men, the red states are doing well because they take all the tax money from the blue states, etc.

And then we have Boner who had publicly stated he not only trusts BO but agreed there is no spending problem.

IMO there are three trigger issues that, depending on which way they go, will determine whether or not Republicans control the House after 2014: Defunding Obamacare, amnesty for illegals and the right of citizens to bear arms.

How do we convince others? It has to start at the local and state level. For those of us who live in Red states, we can have an influence on our Governor and State Legislators but we are going to have to be in their face 24/7. We have to engage people in conversation, we need to block walk and knock on doors. It’s gut check time. Can we do it? I honestly don’t know.


40 posted on 03/17/2013 6:38:46 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

And I’m serious. The jobs are not coming back.

There are jobs, maybe not in your neighborhood or city, but in our newspaper today small companies are trying to find licensed electricians, plumbers and welders. Yes someone may have to go to school for two years to be trained but it is doable and these are the kinds of skills that will always be needed.

Head for the oil patch if you want to make some money. Yes it may be hard work but it’s a job and it pays well.

If we get some manufacturing jobs back the repetitive tasks will be done by robots. Obama promised Hope and Change. Not sure what the hope thing was all about but I do know that life has certainly changed.

Time to figure out how to make lemonade out of the bunch of lemons that has been foisted on us.


41 posted on 03/17/2013 6:50:08 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Patty Murray is more stupid than Barbara Boxer? I didn’t think such a thing was possible.

To-mate-o...To-mot-o.

42 posted on 03/17/2013 7:01:20 PM PDT by Starstruck (I need a 30 round magazine because liberal whine gives me a buzz.)
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To: BobL
The Dems did have a budget the past 4 years, how do you think the government operated during that time - it certainly wasn’t under Ryan’s budgets. Yes, they had a budget, but no, they didn’t put it out for all to see months ahead - they just waited until it needed to be passed, and then it was passed.

NO budgets were passed over the past four years -- except by the House.

In the absence of budgets, spending was automatically controlled by the Current Services Baseline -- the previous year's budget, adjusted upward by a specified percentage. The arrangement is an artifact of the Carter administration -- and, as planned by Harry Reid, it kept the Republican House from having any meaningful say regarding appropriations and expenditures since they gained a majority effective January, 2011.

43 posted on 03/17/2013 7:16:37 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I am convinced that nothing will bring back manufacturing like WWIII would. I hope we can recover our industrial base in an emergency fast enough to stave off disaster. Nobody thinks of that.


44 posted on 03/17/2013 7:25:18 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Starstruck
Patty Murray is more stupid than Barbara Boxer?

Man, that's a tough one.

45 posted on 03/17/2013 7:26:34 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin
The WaPo is going to have to do better. A tiger does not change its stripes, even if you hide them with a bucket of whitewash. Consider this as disinformation [deception].
46 posted on 03/17/2013 8:24:28 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: okie01
NO budgets were passed over the past four years -- except by the House.

Isn't the one trillion deficit each year since 2009 because they added the stimulus to the budget as a yearly expenditure? My understanding was since 2008, the budget has increased 25% mainly caused by the stimulus that was included annually by way of the Continuing Resolution instead of an annual budget.

47 posted on 03/18/2013 7:12:49 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: thirst4truth
Isn't the one trillion deficit each year since 2009 because they added the stimulus to the budget as a yearly expenditure?

You are correct.

While we were all led to believe that Porkulus was supposed to be a one-time-only expenditure, the Democrats took steps to build it into the departmental budgets. Accordingly, the stimulus became part of the Current Services Baseline.

Harry Reid knew exactly what he was doing. When they passed Obamacare, the Democrat leadership knew they were going to lose the House in 2010 -- and they developed a plan to short-circuit the House's Constitutional authority over appropriations. The method:

1. Build Porkulus into the departmental budgets

2. Then resist any attempt to pass a Congressional budget.

3. Presto! Expenditures were now controlled by the Current Services Baseline -- the only Congressional action required being the passage of a Continuing Resolution (which cannot effectively impact exactly what spending is taking place -- only the total amount).

48 posted on 03/18/2013 7:23:55 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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