Skip to comments.Rand Paul and Tea Party Victory In CPAC poll Means Little For 2016
Posted on 03/17/2013 5:30:34 PM PDT by drewhEdited on 03/17/2013 5:36:51 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
CPAC had sought to attract young people this year and they succeeded. NRA President David Keene spoke about the changing demographics of the Republican Party earlier in the day.
Fully 50% of all votes cast by people under 30 in GOP primaries in 2012 were for Ron Paul. This statistic elicited cheers from the crowd. The results make more sense in light of this fact and the demographic make up of the voters: Ron Paul was virtually the only GOP candidate to reach out to college students and young people in 2012.
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what is the barf alert for?
barf alert? It means absolutely nothing. A few hundred votes and you can vote more than once AND it’s 2013? It is utterly meaningless.
In the 60's and 70's, these were the Pat Paulson and Ralph Nader voters....now they vote for the "Beam Me Up Scottie" Party (R. Paul)
Yup. Just keep spitting on the only new blood in the party. That’s worked so well recently.
Rand Paul is the best out there right now. His dad gets fruity on some issues, but Rand fits the bill. He’s leading the party right now away from the complete disaster than the DC elite are going.
It seems FR has swung strong for Rand Paul....but Im not on the band wagon either. He daddy is totally nuts and both have the same followers....
>> loonatic fringe
The “loonatic fringe” favored Republicans in 2012. And possibly a repressed conservative vote that swung the results in Obama’s favor.
The ambiguous R. barely makes a point.
I know they're out there.
God forbid it’s the likes of a libertarian that takes a stand against Marxism.
I understand when Paul goes off on stuff like about the Civil Rights Act he is looking at it from the strictly libertarian standpoint (racism is bad but we don’t need government to interfere in a private business, the market and public opinion will do fine on its own). He stuck on the principle of a business owner having control of his business, and that our speech can trump the speech of a business owner via boycotting a business with a policy like segregation. But has has also established himself as a better politician and a more pragmatic, flexible libertarian than the father, or a libertarian leaning Republican if you will....I am confused where the hard line is drawn sometimes with him.
Sounds like sour grapes.
I like some of Ron Paul’s ideas, but total legalization of drugs is not a sound thing nor is having a completely isolationist foreign policy. So I don’t agree with him on everything.
Of course as I found in another thread, even mentioning the word “libertarian” on here tends to be like waving a red cape at a bull. There was even an infuriated moderator on there telling me I deserved to be banned from the site.
Why is it that big tent republicans tell conservatives that they are stupid for not embracing scott walker, olympia snowe, and arlen specter, but as soon as an anti-establishment conservative comes along (that would loosen the grip of establishment politics) the big tent republicans all-of-a-sudden want a smaller tent?
Is this the political class (powerful government liberals) just trying to play politics?
Hey how ‘bout McCain/Boehner 2016?
That will really capture the voter’s imagination and help set the country on the right path.
(/throw-up in my mouth)
I know that Barry Goldwater used to oppose the CRM because he believed it should be a state issue. You could split hairs on that all day long. I generally believe also that social welfare programs like SS are best moved out of the federal government’s control and put at the state level, although it’s probably impossible at this point to remove things like that because they’re so completely entrenched.
It does mean little. There just aren’t enough of us. Generations of leftist education and media have come to fruition. Zeitgeist. Yuri Bezmanov.
Have been to State GOP Conventions several times before. At one time I was GOP County Chairman when I lived out in NM.
Made a special point to go to Ron Paul's gathering at the Convention because of my curiosity concerning the appeal to the young voting segment.
There are some issues that both Ron and Rand are spot on about. Many that they are so far out there that it is amazing.
I had flirted with libertarianism for several years when I was young. Read some of the contemporary libertarian writers and it resonated. But when I actually saw the people who were at the time actually “in” the Libertarian Party (Capital L) I was left cold.
Ron Paul has a young following which appears to be college age and up to 30 that is really fired up, very organized and orchestrated. Ron plays to that like a Rock Star. There are many who are against any drug regulation, against any foreign aid or foreign military presence and an anti-Israel element.
The element that I found missing was the traditional Christian voter element. I saw almost no Evangelical support and no Jewish support.
I am not sure how closely Rand Paul's attitudes track with his father.
Those who love Liberty (to the fullest) are not the same as those who call themselves Libertarians.
Like Father...Like Son
Rand Paul is Amnesty Liberal. If you are not tough on the border and have the spine to deport Illegal Aliens, you are not getting this conservative’s vote.
Our national security begins at the border, and being weak on that issue is being weak on national security. rand Paul talks a good game, but he is no better on national security than his father was
True: it’s who brings in the votes in 2014 that will matter!
Rand Paul is in a good position to help in the 2014 elections. I assume he realizs that will be his test.
“Ron Paul has a young following which appears to be college age and up to 30 that is really fired up, very organized and orchestrated. Ron plays to that like a Rock Star. There are many who are against any drug regulation, against any foreign aid or foreign military presence and an anti-Israel element.”
Oh, I agree that libertarianism is becoming big among young people and the old GOP hacks like Fred Barnes and Bill Kristol and their kind are dinosaurs headed for the tar pit. This last election was the final proof that the moderate country club Republicans have failed.
In 30 years time, these young libertarians are going to dominate the political scene.