Posted on 03/17/2013 5:30:34 PM PDT by drewh
Edited on 03/17/2013 5:36:51 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I contend the people you see absent in the Libertarian circles are those who are religious Christians and Jews.
Libertarianism views faith, morals and sexual orientation as being unimportant and unnessary elements of government. Our founders understood that our form of government would only work with a moral people. That practice evolves from an honest religious belief.
None at ALL?
How do we WIN the War on Drugs?
I agree 100%.
Although Des Moines, Iowa, radio talk show host Jan Mickelson claims to be a ‘Christian libertarian.
http://www.whoradio.com/pages/pp_janmickelson.html
I'd venture to say that YOUR perfect candidate would probably not be mine.
With that as a given; I will assume that ALL candidates will have at LEAST one area of Whackiness that will be a negative with one voter or another.
So my question is:
What level of wackiness could YOU accept in MY candidate and still be able to vote for him? or her...
“I contend the people you see absent in the Libertarian circles are those who are religious Christians and Jews.”
Now, the whole problem with them is that they have this strawman view that libertarians support no-holds-barred random drugs and sex. Which is of course completely untrue. It is also very unfortunate that they believe this because one of the principle elements of a free society is the right to practice one’s religion without interference.
Therefore by opposing them, the religious Jews and Christians play into the hand of the statist left, their absolute enemy.
I cannot find that article in the Constitution that permits the Federal government to ban plants. At least when the Feds banned turning plants into alcohol they first passed an amendment granting the government this power. I would think any constitutionalist would oppose the Drug War on the principle the federal government doesn't have the power it exercises.
When you add in the erosion of liberties that has followed in the wake of the Drug War, constitutionalist opposition should be even stronger.
against any foreign aid or foreign military presence and an anti-Israel element.
I don't really understand people who want to raise American's taxes or debt to shovel money to other countries, or provide their defense so they can spend more money on their welfare states, or that equate (or even subordinate) another nation's interests with America's interests. No other nation, Israel included, has a claim on American taxpayers. If there are self described conservatives that want to 'support' Israel, I think they should reach in their own damn pockets instead of encumbering American taxpayers.
” - - - 54% of this poll approved of the job Congress was doing. - - - “
Duh, were those polled all “Low Information Voters?”
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Drug use is not a victimless crime. It affects others. (not limited to Marijuana)
The Paul’s views on foreign relations are nieve. I think trade with enemies needs to be rethought, but no foreign relationship with friendly countries is a mistake.
Like it or not, Christians and Jews are forever intertwined. Ignoring that is the point that bothers me the most about the Pauls. As a nation we never had an established religion, but we were largely a Christian nation. That contributed greatly to the stability and honesty in government. Few nations have ever approached that. Poland is an ally that comes close. Israel is also a great ally.
The destiny of the Christians in the West and the Jews in Israel are forever tied together. We look for the same event but from a different perspective. (Einstein’s relativity is good example)
What does that have to do with the Constitution, more specifically the fact the Drug War contravenes the Bill of Rights?
The Drug War isn't 'victimless' either. Drinking causes enormous harm, but through painful experience we learned that that a War on Alcohol is even more harmful.
There are approaches to the fallout of drug abuse that don't involve jailing large swathes of the population, enriching gangs and organized crime, and trampling the Bill of Rights. It's past time to quit reinforcing the failure that is our current approach.
The Paul’s views on foreign relations are nieve. I think trade with enemies needs to be rethought, but no foreign relationship with friendly countries is a mistake.
Paul's views on foreign policy align most closely with George Washington, a man with more military and foreign affairs experience in his life than any leader we've had since. I have much more faith in the reason and judgement that drives those opinions than I do the nation builders.
Naive best describes the nation builders, and those that would bury the nation under debt to prop up pet nations that are perfectly capable of defending themselves.
Thank you for touching on what the real issue is for some here
However Mark Levin....Jewish last i checked and arguably leading the charge against the GOPe
Gave kudos to Rand for fighting back
I think he is smarter than most here
No candidate will ever please all here.....
I’m ambivalent on Paul and although i support Israel for non religious reasons...i hate how some of my fellow Christians treat Jews like providence pets
I don’t think questioning that policy or being isolationist about the middle east makes one a Nazi by default
How do full liberty-lovers differ from libertarians?
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