Skip to comments.Your Next Jury Duty Should Ask For Proof That Federal Law Currently Exist
Posted on 03/17/2013 6:56:40 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
Jury duty is something we all are asked to serve at one time or another in our lives. In a just society, where the enforcement of law is critical to maintaining civility and order, jury duty is an honor. In an unjust society, where the enforcement of law is simply a charade, jury duty reduces those who are called upon to nothing more than actors and actresses helping to maintain the fraudulent facade of authenticity being put forth by the state.
In my opinion, since it is evident that the Federal laws having to do with the eligibility of the President are currently being ignored by those assigned to enforce them, that there is no law at the top, thus, there can be no law at the bottom.
If the person who supposedly is the chief law enforcement officer in the nation is illegal, how on earth can the rest of any of it be made to seem "legal"? If I were asked to be a juror on a Federal case, I would refuse to render a verdict until the Federal government can prove to me BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that the current person claiming to be my President is in fact legally eligible to serve. I would have them quote the evidence that was used to determine his eligibily as required under the Constitution in the Twentieth Amendment, Section 3.
If I were a defense attorney in a Federal case, I would force the Federal government to prove to my jury beyond that same reasonable doubt that it is enforcing the laws at the top and not just the laws at the bottom.
If there is no law at the top of the current Federal government, the current Federal government is outlaw and should be dealt with by the Armed Services, County Sheriffs, and the states.
We the People own this country and we are not actors from Hollywood. We need a few of us to start acting like the citizens we are.
This would be the solution... If I could just CONVINCE people. Jury nullification is the EASIEST way to rein in ridiculous extra-constitutional OVERREACH. As a juror PROMISE to obey the judges orders, then do what you damn well please because a JUROR cannot be coerced. If you feel that the law is OBVIOUSLY unconstitutional... NULLIFY IT!
Your argument sounds much like the argument Col. Terry Lakin used as he claimed the Commander in Cheif had no valid basis to claim he was a Natural Born Citizen, and therefore was not a legitimate president.
We all know how well (not) that worked out for him. Much the same way any similar claims to get out of jury duty will work for you.
Face it. We are constrained by liars and fools pretending to govern us. Just have to deal with it.
This is not for getting out of Jury duty. This what I would do if I were fortunate enough to land on a Federal jury.
Who is assigned to enforce them, since obvioucly nobody has.
Check out Jury Nullification. The last refuge of a free people.
I don’t consider jury duty to be an honor.On the contrary it’s an imposition that cost the potential juror not only time but money as well.
Just ask a judge if you can skip out of jury duty or fail to show up on the appointed date.You will probably get a contempt of court charge thrown at you.Proving how involuntary and honorable the jury system really is.
The Only way I would look foreward to being on a jury is if I could nullify all of these anti-Second amendment prosecutions that will follow all of these new gun control laws.
I would look foreward to that.
Twentieth Amendment, Section Three places the burden of proving eligibility upon the President elect. If he/she cannot, or "fails" to do so, Congress is instructed to name a replacement. Congress has avoided its duty now twice. This means there is no legal President at this time. I've proven this to be the case on numerous threads.
basically what you’re alluding to is that the Constitution is in breech.
and since the law is a series of contracts based on each other... if the founding document is in breech, so are the rest
we’re living in a lawless society. we just haven’t figured it out yet
Some of us have. The task ahead is to force the actions of the Federal government itself to admit such. They want the charade to continue. We must find ways to expose them by their inability to admit the truth. It is their weak spot and we must attack it frontally.
Aka obama's fraud:
* Not a natural born Citizen (not merely born in USA, but born of citizen parents).
* Bogus Social Security Number - issued from Connecticut, a state in which he never lived (fails E-verify).
* Birth certificate document fraud - pdf of BC from whitehouse-dot-gov website is a clear forgery, not a scan of a paper document (BC number very likely stolen from Hawaiian born Virginia Sunahara, who tragically died at one day of age).
* Not born in any Hawaiian hospital (maybe born elsewhere in Hawaii - probably born out of USA as he claimed for years in his own book bio, but who really knows since no one has been able to vet our liar-in-chief).
* Bogus Selective Service Registration number - probably failed to register as a young man, thus ineligible for any federal office.
* Probably attended Occidental College registered as an Indonesian foreign national (used his adoptive citizenship to game the system).
* In light of his adoption and massive identity record fraud, do we even know aka obama's real name?
PS: Regarding presidential eligibility, our Founders required more than just being born a mere citizen, for the Constitution does not state that one must simply be a "born citizen," but specifically states that one must be a natural born Citizen.
The Founders labored, deliberated and debated over the content of the Constitution for many months. They did not willy-nilly add superfluous, meaningless words. If they had meant to allow the broader category of "born citizen" they would have succinctly stated such and not bothered to include the further restrictive qualification of being a natural born Citizen, which clearly excludes many types of mere "born citizens."
Ask yourself, who are by far the most common, everyday ordinary type of citizens that naturally populate and perpetuate our great country, the type of citizens who, by their very nature, can only be U.S. citizens and nothing else? The answer is obvious - those born exclusively in country jurisdiction to existing U.S. citizens. These are the only type of citizens who are born with 100 percent, red-blooded exclusive allegiance to no other country but America. These are the natural born Citizens.
By blood and by dirt - and the criminal fraud known as obama simply does not qualify.
Contempt of court, anyone?
I am not a lawyer, but I really doubt this will be an effective strategy. Judges have a lot of discretion in their courts and they do not like idiotic grandstanding. If you're a juror trying to hold up the judicial process, I can see the judge charging you with contempt of court and swiftly replacing you with one of the alternatives. If you're a defense attorney, you will be charged with contempt of court along with facing legal malpractice charges from your client.
I don't see any possible positive solutions from your scenarios, but, like I say, I'm not a lawyer. If there is a lawyer here who has a better handle on how things work, I'd love to hear their take on this.
I don’t know that I consider an honor..but it is a civic duty. Kind of like voting. So maybe it is an honor, on second thought.
Do I get annoyed that pertinent evidence is with held during a trial that might affect my decision? You bet.
Do I get EXTREMELY annoyed if I spend my time sitting in a jury pool all day...and then they settle “out of court”? Dang right. That shouldn’t be allowed imho.
Impeachment File for B. Hussein Obama.
Your next thread should ask for proof read headline.
Well said....and true.
I don’t have to worry about ever being called for jury duty. I REFUSE to provide all the documents required to get a Federal license. This means I cannot enter a federal building. So I can’t serve. Same applies to state courts.
How does an illegal head of the executive branch effect the judicial branch?
I was a Prosecutor for 25 years. You’d probably never make it on the jury and would be tossed if you tried it. Jury nullification is different but this approach is silly and accomplishes nothing.
And you can’t just decide you get to make the State “prove” something. That is not the way the system works. You’d have zero credibility and would be tossed out of the courtroom.
Great, I’m always looking for new ways to avoid jury duty. One way is to proudly declare you’re a member of the ACLU.